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Joe and Nathan are back at the Rumor Mill, and this week they’re digging into TikTok drama, revisiting some old Afterthought grudges, and somehow spending an alarming amount of time discussing other people’s asses. Joe examines his long and storied history of being ghosted. That leads to memories of Robert, Joey Carlisle, Evan Markson and Daniel Brewer — plus plans for the upcoming “Carlisle Accords,” where Joe and Daniel will finally attempt to hash things out. Then it’s time for TikTok drama as Joe breaks down the controversy surrounding creator Jesus Nalgas, his budding coffee business, accusations of doxxing and the internet pile-on that followed. Are younger generations obsessed with justice — or are they really obsessed with punishment? Nathan has some celebrity sightings and entertainment updates, Joe shares the story of a mother who charged her 10-year-old for gas on his birthday, and the conversation takes several increasingly inappropriate detours involving coffee scrubs, nude beaches and the hypothetical Michelin Guide to assholes. The voicemails bring listener reactions to the latest All Stars 1 recap, some very welcome praise for Afterthought Media’s audio quality, another bizarre development in the ongoing Tom Bombs saga, and an update from a listener preparing to explore opening up his 27-year relationship. Plus: Practical Magic 2, The Wiggles, Dollywood plans, the empowering side of taking sexy photos, and Joe and Nathan finish things off by deciding which Afterthought members they would — or would not — rim. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe and Nathan are back at the Rumor Mill, and this week there’s plenty to discuss. Joe shares an unexpected update about the Activities Director job, while Nathan reveals that the play he spent weeks complaining about ended with a surprising honor — and an official relationship status update. Then it’s time for the celebrity news, including the shocking death of Hayden Panettiere and the controversy surrounding her estranged mother’s response, plus rumors about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle reportedly heading back to the UK. Joe has theories about what the move could mean — including one that involves a possible royal reconciliation and another that could spell trouble for the Sussex marriage. Later, a listener revisits an infamous Drag Race Recap episode Joe didn’t appear on, leading to a plan to finally correct a decade-old Afterthought injustice. Plus, the mailbag brings questions about Little Delicious, Wollongong’s proximity to saltwater crocodiles, and whether one listener is actually just Lord Newton in medical drag. And finally, Nathan heads to the zoo — but not before assigning Australian animals to the expensive-tier patrons. It’s another trip through celebrity gossip, Afterthought history, listener shenanigans, and wildly unnecessary speculation on the Rumor Mill. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe and Nathan are back at the RMZ news desk, and this week the rumors range from the very demure to the deeply Disney Adult. First, Joe recaps his less-than-magical D23 Day at Disneyland, including the impossible-to-get princess concert, the Cavalcade of Legends, some questionable Disney fashion choices, and a vintage piece of Disneyland history that immediately has Nathan asking about Joe’s will. Then it’s time for the internet drama. Jools Lebron is facing backlash after asking fans to help fund her dental work, leading Joe and Nathan into a conversation about internet fame, getting a regular job, and what happens when your viral moment doesn’t last forever. Next, they dive into the viral “Peter Pan Girl” and the internet’s fascination with her Disneyland character interactions. Is she cringey? Absolutely. But is she really the worst Disney Adult wandering around the parks? Joe has thoughts—and firsthand evidence that things can get much, much weirder. Plus: Nathan’s play limps toward the finish line, the Secret Show inspires some nostalgia, Gus Kenworthy continues existing, Nathan clears up once again that he did NOT live in New Zealand, and Joe delivers his definitive dissertation on why Stop That Train fundamentally misunderstands what made Airplane! work. All that, your voicemails, Q&A, and the usual nonsense on this week’s Rumor Mill. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe and Nathan are back with another Rumor Mill, and this week they’re diving into internet scandals, drag drama, questionable Australian cuisine, and some deeply irresponsible fortune-telling. First, Joe catches Nathan up on the disturbing Perez Hilton incident that unfolded on TikTok Live, before they turn to the latest rumors surrounding Maddy Morphosis and the controversy over Kennedy Davenport booking Shangela for her anniversary show. That leads to a bigger conversation about friendship, accountability, cancel culture, and whether people should ever be allowed to screw up, make amends, and move forward. Then it’s time for your voicemails! The Velvet Detective continues his increasingly convoluted investigation, April needs Nathan to explain whether Australians actually eat kangaroos and crocodiles, and a listener makes a request involving one of Afterthought’s long-lost shows. Nathan also reports back from opening night of Arsenic and Old Lace, complete with sick cast members, forgotten lines, questionable accents, and some pre-show panic. And finally, Joe breaks out the tarot cards to predict the futures of the Expensive Tier members while Nathan provides his own completely unqualified interpretations. Expect impending doom, religious conversions, polygamy, doll diddling, murder accusations, and an alarming number of wands. It’s another perfectly responsible edition of The Rumor Mill. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe and Nathan weigh in on Alaska taking the national tour of Oh, Mary!, Raven’s brief appearance on Drag Race Down Under vs. the World, and Selena EsTitties’ Big Brother eviction. They also revisit a classic Afterthought mystery, announce the winner of Joe’s $75 contest, and discuss Nathan’s possible podcast collaboration with Christian. Then, listener voicemails inspire conversations about Joe and Nathan’s alternate-universe marriage, Nathan’s fellow Afterthought crushes, celebrity scandals, Broadway’s most affordable seats, and the lasting effects of Joe’s experiences with sexual assault. Plus: Nathan prepares to attend a costume party as Dobby, Joe connects a college student with the Lord Mayor of Wollongong, and the Patreon supporters are sorted according to the week’s most important criterion: bald or not bald. Leave us a voicemail at speakpipe.com/afterthoughtmedia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe and Nathan are back live, and this week they cover everything from a heated debate over Studio Ghibli to an unexpected visit to the set of Extraction 3. Nathan explains why he just can't get into Hayao Miyazaki's films, Joe shares his experience seeing Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey in IMAX 70mm, and the two compare notes on Hollywood, Australian celebrities, and moviegoing etiquette. Plus, Nathan meets Chris Hemsworth, Joe recounts a very eventful trip to Universal CityWalk, the Rumor Mill Mailbag debuts with a brand-new theme song, and listeners send in voicemails, updates, and one unforgettable email that takes the conversation in a completely unexpected direction. In this episode: Nathan's controversial Miyazaki hot take Joe's Hollywood Bowl and The Odyssey adventures Behind the scenes on the set of Extraction 3 Meeting Chris Hemsworth (and almost Idris Elba) Australia's celebrity Mount Rushmore The debut of the Rumor Mill Mailbag Listener voicemails and star ratings Updates on the ongoing Lord Newton mystery Plus plenty of tangents, laughs, and Afterthought Media lore. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 11, Episode 12 – "Disco SmackDown for the Crown" It's finale time! Joe and Taylor break down the epic lip sync SmackDown for the crown as the Top 4 battle it out to become the newest member of the Drag Race Hall of Fame. The boys discuss the strengths and weaknesses of the All Stars bracket format, debate whether the point system has run its course, and examine how strategy, alliances, and social politics shaped the season. They also weigh in on Joey J's surprising run to the finale, Crystal Methyd's dominant season, Jasmine Kennedy's controversial gameplay, and whether the final lip sync actually determined the winner. Plus: The fallout from the Rate-a-Queen reveal The queens answer each other's toughest questions A breakdown of every lip sync in the Disco SmackDown The return of iconic disco classics, including "The Main Event" and "MacArthur Park" Joe and Taylor reveal what they'd change about the All Stars format going forward Final thoughts on the season—and whether the right queen took the crown Join us as we close the book on All Stars 11 and look ahead to what's next for Drag Race. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Rumor Mill is back with another week of Drag Race chatter, pop culture detours, and the kind of conversations that somehow only get weirder as the episode goes on. This week, Joe and Nathan dive into Disney pin collecting, a surprising engineering adventure beneath an Australian mountain, podcast comments that spark a larger discussion about authenticity, and the strange ways listeners keep crossing paths in the real world. Along the way, they tackle the latest Drag Race headlines, share updates from the Afterthought community, answer listener voicemails, and somehow end up talking rugby, Broadway, Zelda, and much more. As always, expect plenty of laughs, a few hot takes, and absolutely no guarantee that the conversation will stay on track. Follow us on social media and join the conversation on Patreon for bonus episodes, live recordings, and more from the Afterthought Media family. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe and Taylor recap RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 11, Episode 11: "Tournament of All Stars Rumble." The queens battle it out in the season's talent show, but was Crystal Methyd the right winner? The hosts debate the judging, break down every performance, and discuss Jasmine Kennedie's emotional reaction after the results. They also dive into the ongoing tension between A'Keria C. Davenport and Silky Nutmeg Ganache, analyze the runway looks, and react to a lip sync that sends one more queen home just before the finale. As always, expect plenty of hot takes, laughs, and unapologetic opinions as the race for the crown reaches its final stretch. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on The Rumor Mill... It's a birthday edition of The Rumor Mill! Joe and Nathan keep things short(ish) with a voicemail-focused episode after Joe decides to spend his birthday taking it easy—and Nathan has to race off to rehearsal for Arsenic and Old Lace. Along the way, they discuss: Joe's first conversation with Nathan's partner, "Argentino" Why Joe happily skipped an 80-person Fourth of July party A behind-the-scenes look at The T and Nathan's new role as co-host The mystery surrounding Lori's infamous "Cancel that Rogaine!" moment The return of the Melissa Witt/Adam Burns murder-tip trivia Why the hosts seem to attract listeners from across the Commonwealth Ideas for a musical theater podcast (or at least a Lori musical theater segment) Which athletes have the hottest uniforms Vegas hotel talk, TMZ sightings, and Robert Mata updates Bob the Drag Queen's evolving relationship with drag Listener questions about the history and names of Afterthought Media shows An impressive musical voicemail audition from Pablo Plus, another fantastic batch of listener voicemails from Tom Bombs, Steven, Sasha, Lewis, Katie, Trevon, Trotsaway, Pablo, and more. As always, thank you to everyone who called in—and if you've been thinking about leaving a voicemail, this is your sign! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The queens from all three brackets finally come together as the semifinals begin! This week, the remaining competitors take the stage to share personal stories with a message for their younger selves before serving up Red Carpet Realness on the runway. Joe and Taylor break down the strongest and weakest performances, debate whether Crystal Method deserved the win over fan favorite Joey Jay, and discuss the emotional showdown between Kennedy Davenport and A'Keria C. Davenport. Plus, they celebrate one of the most memorable lip syncs of the season, unpack the growing tension between A'Keria and Silky Nutmeg Ganache, and somehow spend a surprising amount of time talking about sitcom legend Mabel King. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Rumor Mill, Joe and Nathan dive into the latest controversy surrounding Mistress Isabelle Brooks after a viral street interview sparks debate over consent, accountability, and whether the video should have ever been posted. They also explain why they skipped the latest Raven vs. Willam drama and what actually makes a story worth covering. Elsewhere, Nathan shares stories from a spectacular U.S. Embassy Fourth of July celebration in Australia, complete with Route 66 décor, fireworks, free food, and enough patriotic merch to fill a suitcase. The conversation expands into American culture, international perceptions of the U.S., and why visitors often come away with a very different impression than expected. Plus, Joe reviews the Australian LGBTQ+ horror film Leviticus, the hosts discuss their very different approaches to rating movies, laugh about an unforgettable high school production of Aladdin, introduce a brand-new recurring segment, and close the show with a heartfelt listener voicemail about how the Afterthought Media podcasts have helped through life's toughest moments. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The road to the semifinals gets messy as the queens take on a lip sync acting challenge inspired by RuPaul's classic 1990s talk show! We break down the best (and worst) celebrity impressions, debate whether the judges got the placements right, and gush over a fantastic David Bowie-inspired runway. Then it's time for the point drama to reach its boiling point. We unpack shifting alliances, strategic gameplay, emotional confrontations, and RuPaul's surprising decision that changes the semifinal lineup. Plus, we discuss the mysterious Wild Card twist and share our predictions for which eliminated queen is about to make a dramatic return. Who truly earned a spot in the semifinals? And who do we hope is waiting inside that bingo cage? Tune in as we recap every shady, shocking, and spectacular moment from All Stars 11, Episode 9. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Rumor Mill, Joe and Nathan kick things off with a lengthy pre-show tease involving stories that may never make it to the public feed before introducing a brand-new segment-in-development: Dom Top Minute. From there, the conversation expands into the future of the podcast itself, with a major announcement about Rumor Mill’s next evolution. Plus: Joe and Nathan reveal plans to expand Rumor Mill beyond Drag Race into a broader pop culture and entertainment gossip show Discussion of the legal battle between outdoor apparel giant Patagonia and drag environmentalist Patty Gonia Why trademark law often forces companies to protect their brands—even when it makes them look like the villain The ongoing Heated Rivalry discourse continues as listeners weigh in with mixed reviews of the series A new conspiracy theory emerges regarding the mysterious Morgan McMichaels/Jewish drag performer controversy Nathan receives a glowing recommendation for Italy’s population of bald, bearded men Listener reactions to Drag Race France’s AI-generated promotional images spark a larger conversation about artificial intelligence and creativity Joe discusses how AI is currently used behind the scenes in podcast production and where he draws the line First-time callers from around the world share memories, stories, and appreciation for Afterthought Media Lori joins the show to finally clarify the infamous shark-surfing story from her childhood Movie Minute returns with reviews of Toy Story 5 and Stop That Train Patreon shout-outs, audience questions, and the usual Afterthought chaos close out the episode As always, the world’s greatest chat room keeps the conversation moving, listeners contribute theories and trivia, and absolutely no topic remains on track for very long. Support Afterthought Media: Patreon subscribers get bonus content, exclusive shows, live recordings, and all the stories that are just a little too juicy for the public feed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on the RuPaul's Drag Race Recap Show, Joe and Taylor break down All Stars 11 Episode 8, "Wrap & Roast Redux!" The queens trade shade in a hilarious mini challenge before taking on a rap-themed roast that leaves the judges divided and the fans debating. The hosts discuss the evolving points strategy, Sam Star's growing workroom tensions, Joey Jay's standout performance, and whether the judges got the Top 2 right. Plus, a deep dive into the controversial lip sync to Stephen Sondheim's "The Ladies Who Lunch" and why it sparked such strong reactions. Follow us on social media and join the conversation! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe and Nathan are back together after a brief on-air feud, and they waste no time revisiting their phone call drama, awkward goodbyes, and the strange ways friendships can spiral into podcast content. Nathan shares highlights from his New York trip, including attending the Tony Awards, spotting Broadway celebrities, sneaking into an afterparty, and unexpectedly warming up to a certain Drag Race queen. The pair then dive into the latest Drag Race-adjacent controversy as they break down a viral TikTok accusing Morgan McMichaels of trying to sabotage another performer's gig. Joe and Nathan examine the claims, question the evidence, and offer their own theories about what may have actually happened behind the scenes. Plus, listener voicemails return with updates from Lord Newton, a challenge for Nathan’s hand in marriage, a classic Afterthought Media callback involving a little person and a print shop, and a surprisingly detailed discussion of a very unusual dream featuring J. Thomas Plank and Little Delicious. Also this week: Edinburgh travel plans, Disney cruises, Toy Story 5 anticipation, theater talk, Stop That Train reviews, obsession with Obsession, and plenty of the usual Rumor Mill chaos. This episode contains adult language and mature content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The final bracket of queens enters the competition and faces a design challenge that puts their creativity to the test. Using athletic gear as their only materials, the queens must transform sportswear into runway-worthy fashion while navigating alliances, point strategies, and growing competition pressure. Joe and Taylor break down the challenge looks, debate the judges' critiques, discuss the strengths and weaknesses of the third bracket, and share their thoughts on the ongoing points system. Plus, they weigh in on the top two performances, the lip sync showdown, and whether the right queen walked away with the extra point. Also in this episode: Taylor returns from Gay Disney The surprising lack of workroom drama Sam Starr vs. Jasmine Kennedie Kennedy Davenport's long-awaited return Joey J's growing fanbase A deep dive into jock straps nobody asked for Marilyn McCoo, Janet DuBois, and several unexpected television detours Join us as we discuss, dissect, and deconstruct another episode of RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 11. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Get ready for another deep dive into the cast of RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars 11 as Joe and Robert break down the queens of Bracket 3. The duo discusses the Drag Race histories of Hershii LiqCour-Jeté, Jasmine Kennedie, Joey Jay, Kennedy Davenport, Sam Star, and Shuga Cain, sharing their thoughts on each queen’s original run, strengths, weaknesses, and chances of advancing in the competition. Along the way, they debate Kennedy Davenport’s legacy, revisit some controversial Drag Race moments, discuss queens who may have been robbed, and speculate on who could emerge as the surprise standout of the bracket. Plus, there’s plenty of tangents, laughter, and classic Joe-and-Robert banter about movies, fandom, and the ever-evolving Drag Race universe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe and Robert recap the final episode of Bracket 2, and the queens are feeling the pressure as they compete in a makeover challenge featuring a group of gay dads. On the runway, family resemblance is the name of the game, but the real drama happens when the queens start distributing points and long-standing alliances begin to crack. This week, Joe and Robert discuss: The makeover challenge and the gay dads who joined the competition Vivacious finally getting her moment in the spotlight Selena S. Titties’ ambitious alliance strategy Silky Nutmeg Ganache’s controversial point distribution Crystal Methyd’s Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence-inspired runway The emotional final point ceremony that determines who advances to the semifinals The Super Bass lip sync between Selena and Vivacious The Untucked fallout and the end of at least one drag friendship As Bracket 2 comes to a close, only two queens earn spots in the semifinals. Who moves on, who gets left behind, and who leaves with hurt feelings? Joe and Robert break it all down. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 11, the queens of Bracket 2 put their instructional skills to the test as they create a series of over-the-top how-to videos. From cooking tutorials to zombie survival guides, the queens attempt to educate the children while fighting for valuable points in the competition. Joe and Taylor break down the challenge, debate the judges' decisions, discuss the increasingly exhausting alliance conversations, and weigh in on a farm-themed runway that delivered everything from hay couture to questionable tractor fashion. Gina Gershon arrives ready to play and earns rave reviews as a guest judge. The hosts discuss whether the challenge format helped or hurt the queens. Alliance talk continues to dominate the workroom conversation. Joe shares strong opinions about washing chicken. April Carrion and Silky Nutmeg Ganache's playful rivalry fizzles before it can become real drama. Aura Mayari's zombie-themed tutorial leaves the hosts unconvinced. Crystal Methyd channels absurdist comedy in one of the episode's strongest performances. Selena EsTitties and Silky's videos spark a conversation about stereotypes and comedy. The hosts break down every look from the "Barned This Way" runway. Debate over whether the judges picked the correct Top 2 queens. Joe and Taylor disagree with the lip sync outcome. An unexpected tangent about banana splits, Wiener Schnitzel, and childhood dessert memories. April Carrion serves high-fashion hay couture. Aura Mayari transforms into a glamorous barn owl. Crystal Methyd delivers another delightfully bizarre presentation. Silky Nutmeg Ganache brings the dairy farm to the runway. Vivacious attempts tractor-inspired club kid couture. With alliances and point distribution continuing to dominate the narrative, Joe and Taylor find themselves wishing for more organic drama and character development. Still, strong guest judging from Gina Gershon, a few memorable challenge performances, and a surprisingly effective lip sync keep the episode moving as the season heads toward its merge. Follow us on social media and join the conversation: Patreon: patreon.com/afterthoughtmedia Discord: Available to Patreon supporters Visit Afterthought Media for all of our podcasts and bonus content If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe, leave a review, and share the show with a fellow Drag Race fan! In This EpisodeRunway HighlightsFinal Thoughts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices