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<p>Anna Sale explores the big questions and hard choices that are often left out of polite conversation.</p><br><p>Get more Death, Sex & Money with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the Death, Sex & Money show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Or visit slate.com/dsmplus to get access wherever you listen.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
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<p>Anna Blake started an OnlyFans account, not as a pleasure project, but to achieve some financial stability. When she found out she hated the work and made little money, her relationship to sex – and to money – had to change. </p><p>This week on the show, she talks to Anna Sale about being homeschooled as a kid, having few job prospects as a young adult with a G.E.D., and the class conversation that she feels is missing from the discourse about sex work. </p><p>You can read Anna Blake’s writing at <a href="http://nothingseriousbyannablake.substack.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">nothingseriousbyannablake.substack.com</a>, or you can follow her on TikTok at <a href="http://tiktok.com/@nerdnextdoorbabe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tiktok.com/@nerdnextdoorbabe</a>. </p><p>Podcast production by Cameron Drews. </p><p>Right now, we’re running a deal on Death, Sex & Money Plus memberships! Sign up to get bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Visit <a href="https://slate.com/death-sex-money-plus?utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=plus_pod&utm_content=Death_Sex_Money&utm_source=episode_summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a> and use promo code DSM50 to get 50% off your membership – a full year of Death, Sex & Money Plus for $59. </p><p>If you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. </p><br><p><br></p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>The pay-what-you-want business model is mostly found in museums and churches, but this week we’ll hear from entrepreneurs and artists who are implementing it in unlikely places. Guests include: Katie Bishop, owner of <a href="https://principlesbk.nyc/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Principles G.I. Coffee House</a> in Brooklyn, musician <a href="https://greatmovieideas.tumblr.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeff Rosenstock</a> of Bomb the Music Industry!, and Aimé Nuñez, owner of <a href="https://www.pegasusreuse.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pegasus Creative Reuse</a> in Dallas. </p><p>We also hear from <a href="https://faculty.bentley.edu/profile/ssantana" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shelle Santana</a>, assistant professor of marketing at Bentley University, who studies the PWYW model and tells Anna why its success is so confusing to economists. </p><p>Podcast production by Cameron Drews. </p><p>Right now, we’re running a deal on Death, Sex & Money Plus memberships! Sign up to get bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Visit <a href="https://slate.com/death-sex-money-plus?utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=plus_pod&utm_content=Death_Sex_Money&utm_source=episode_summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a> and use promo code DSM50 to get 50% off your membership – a full year of Death, Sex & Money Plus for $59. </p><p>If you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com.</p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>Porn. It’s something that people use in their most intimate, private moments. It’s a way to acknowledge desire — without any of the attachments of intimacy. For some of you, that's incredibly freeing. For others, it's caused some real problems.</p><p>This episode originally aired in 2016 and was produced by Chester Jesus Soria and Katie Bishop</p><p>If you have stories about using AI porn, experimenting with deepfakes, or seeing yourself depicted in one, record a voice memo and email it to us at deathsexmoney@slate.com. </p><p>Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate Plus</a>! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a>.</p><p>And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. </p><br><p><br></p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>Nursing home care in the U.S. can run families $10,000 a month, a cost Medicare won’t pay for. When Anna de la Cruz's parents both developed dementia around the same time, her family split into two paths: a Medicaid ‘spend down’ in the U.S. for her mom, and a move to a memory care facility in Mexico for her dad.</p><p><a href="mailto:anna@annadelacruz.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anna De La Cruz</a> writes a newsletter about caregiving called <a href="https://www.genxandwich.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gen Xandwich</a>. Laura Silverstein is a senior care manager with <a href="https://silverandsageconsultingnw.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Silver and Sage Consulting NW</a>. Wendy Jane Carrel, a care advocate, runs <a href="https://www.wellnessshepherd.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wellness Shepherd</a>. </p><p>To find a care manager near you, try searching the <a href="http://aginglifecare.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aging Life Care Association</a>.</p><p>This episode was produced by Zoe Azulay.</p><p>Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate Plus</a>! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a>.</p><p>And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com.</p><br><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>The bestselling novelist behind works like <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/amy-and-isabelle/id419975757?itscg=30200&at=1000l38Mz&ct=death_sex_money" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Amy and Isabelle</em></a> and <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/olive-kitteridge/id419952416?itscg=30200&at=1000l38Mz&ct=death_sex_money" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Olive Kitteridge</em></a> discusses her excitement about turning 70, her reserved New England upbringing, and how death figures into her latest novel, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-things-we-never-say/id6753041097?itscg=30200&at=1000l38Mz&ct=death_sex_money" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Things We Never Say</em></a>. She also talks about her later start in publishing, her experience taking a stand-up comedy class, and her fascination with New York City’s loud, emotional straight talk. </p><p>Get more <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> show page on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/death-sex-money/id870688022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0yKEWqaqfaAKlSjYnDuisy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>. Or, visit <a href="https://slate.com/death-sex-money-plus?utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=plus_pod&utm_content=Death_Sex_Money&utm_source=episode_summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a> to get access wherever you listen.</p><p>If you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is <a href="mailto:deathsexmoney@slate.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">deathsexmoney@slate.com</a>.</p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>Peter Santenello has been documenting his world travels on YouTube for nearly two decades, but it wasn’t until he moved in with a family in the Ukrainian countryside that he really began to hone his storytelling approach. There were no flashy edits or celebrities, just visits with locals talking about their home, and his Ukraine series quickly gained an online following in that country. </p><p>When the pandemic hit, Peter moved home to the United States and wondered if his formula could work there too – and that’s when his audience really exploded. Now with more than 4 million subscribers, Peter travels around the country chronicling all sorts of micro-cultures that “the media fails to capture,” showcasing places at various points of the economic cycle, some booming, and others left out of prosperity and struggling to hold on. </p><p>He joins Anna to talk about transitioning to US-based videos, what makes his approach unique, and why curiosity beats expertise. </p><p>You can watch all of Peter’s videos on his YouTube channel <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PeterSantenello" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>@PeterSantenello</em></a>, and his new book<em> </em><a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/your-fellow-americans/id6754248733?itscg=30200&at=1000l38Mz&ct=death_sex_money" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Your Fellow Americans: Dispatches from Across the Country We Call Home</em></a><em> </em>is out now. </p><p>This episode was produced by Andrew Dunn. </p><p>Get more <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> show page on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/death-sex-money/id870688022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0yKEWqaqfaAKlSjYnDuisy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>. Or, visit <a href="https://slate.com/death-sex-money-plus?utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=plus_pod&utm_content=Death_Sex_Money&utm_source=episode_summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a> to get access wherever you listen.</p><p>If you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. </p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>Caroline started going to therapy as a teenager because of depression. After a couple of years working together, she expressed a fantasy. “I had a vision of us dancing to Pachelbel's Canon” she told him. Caroline's therapist was 45-years-old and married, but they soon started a romantic relationship. </p><p>In this episode, Anna hears from Caroline and other listeners about when romantic feelings come up in therapy and unpacks it all with Sally Openshaw, a psychologist and expert who studies erotic transference.</p><p>Podcast production by Zoe Azulay</p><p>Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate Plus</a>! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a>.</p><p>And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. </p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>The man behind artful and goofy comedies like <em>The Righteous Gemstones</em> and <em>Eastbound and Down</em> talks about finding his people at an upstart public film program in North Carolina, crafting characters that are nothing like himself, and nurturing a community of like-minded filmmaker friends far away from Hollywood. </p><p>He also discusses his new short story collection <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/thrilling-tales-of-modern-men/id6752918539?ign-itscg=10000&ign-itsct=mus-0-mus_fam-posn88_stm-apl-avl-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Thrilling Tales of Modern Men</em></a>. </p><p>Podcast production by Cameron Drews. </p><p>Get more <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> show page on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/death-sex-money/id870688022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0yKEWqaqfaAKlSjYnDuisy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>. Or, visit <a href="https://slate.com/death-sex-money-plus?utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=plus_pod&utm_content=Death_Sex_Money&utm_source=episode_summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a> to get access wherever you listen.</p><p>If you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>In the mid-1970’s, a small college radio station created an evening program catering to a new socioeconomic group referred to as the “new Black middle class.” The show was called “The Quiet Storm” and it grew so popular that an entire genre of music would spring up alongside it. Artists like Anita Baker, Luther Vandross, and many more would find massive success in the genre, performing smooth and sexy songs you could turn on after a long day. </p><p>Audio producer Christopher Johnson made a piece about <em>The Quiet Storm</em> for the legendary podcast about design <em>99% Invisible</em> and he joins Anna to talk about why Quiet Storm music will always feel like home to him.</p><p>You can listen to The Quiet Storm playlist from <em>99% Invisible </em><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0cuU6j4C77EEuQDRWEEKFb?si=a2u3yKzLTwqz7cvycywmUw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a> and check out the seasons of Slow Burn that Christopher worked on here: <a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/slow-burn/s3/biggie-and-tupac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Season 3 - Biggie and Tupac</a> and <a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/slow-burn/s4/david-duke" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Season 4 - David Duke</a>. </p><p>This episode was produced for DSM by Andrew Dunn. </p><p>Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate Plus</a>! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a>.</p><p>And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>Jim Tierney, pet tracker, has worked on more than 250 lost pet cases around New York City. Jim says once a dog is lost, their behavior changes. “They become less like your pet, and more like a wild animal.” In this episode Jim talks with Zoe Azulay about his tracking method, what it’s like to work with distressed pet owners, and why he didn’t become an animal lover until after his divorce.</p><p>Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate Plus</a>! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a>.</p><p>And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>This week, listeners share what it’s like to plan a dream wedding when money and family relationships lead to conflict and compromise. We hear from couples with vastly different ideas of what they wanted to spend, about opinionated parents and in-laws, and tips from people who managed to spend less. This episode first ran in 2023 and includes new updates from some of the happy couples. </p><p>Podcast production by Zoe Azulay with help from Cameron Drews.</p><p>Get more <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> show page on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/death-sex-money/id870688022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0yKEWqaqfaAKlSjYnDuisy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>. Or, visit <a href="https://slate.com/death-sex-money-plus?utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=plus_pod&utm_content=Death_Sex_Money&utm_source=episode_summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a> to get access wherever you listen.</p><p>If you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>A lot has happened in Jeff Hiller’s life since he was last on the show in 2024. Last year he won an Emmy for his role on the HBO show <em>Somebody Somewhere</em> and then went viral for his sincere and funny acceptance speech. He’s had featured roles in the AppleTV hits <a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/pluribus/umc.cmc.37axgovs2yozlyh3c2cmwzlza" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pluribus</a> and <a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/widows-bay/umc.cmc.1zzly0vah46bnvnwf0qkrjhh2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Widow’s Bay</a> and joined the revolving cast of the Broadway show <a href="https://celebrityautobiography.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Celebrity Autobiography</a>. And his memoir <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Actress-of-a-Certain-Age/Jeff-Hiller/9781668031865" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Actress of a Certain Age</a> is out in paperback.</p><p>This week, Jeff returns to tell Anna about all the ways his life has changed – and hasn’t – since that surprise awards win, including the internet’s curiosity about his body, facing the financial realities of a changing Hollywood, and how we can all remember to seek joy by avoiding the fate of Margaret Atwood’s rooster.</p><p>Podcast production by Cameron Drews and Andrew Dunn</p><p>Get more <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> show page on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/death-sex-money/id870688022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0yKEWqaqfaAKlSjYnDuisy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>. Or, visit <a href="https://slate.com/death-sex-money-plus?utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=plus_pod&utm_content=Death_Sex_Money&utm_source=episode_summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a> to get access wherever you listen.</p><p>If you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. </p><br><p><br></p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>Growing up, whenever Anna Konkle's parents fought–which was frequently–she usually sided with her dad. As she got older, she started to see those memories differently. Was her dad actually the bad guy? This week on <em>Death, Sex & Money</em>, Konkle talks about her new memoir, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-sane-one/id6749604954?itscg=30200&at=1000l38Mz&ct=death_sex_money" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Sane One</em></a>, and the challenges of unpacking morally ambiguous memories. She also narrows in on her relationship with her dad, their estrangement, and their reconciliation shortly before his death. </p><p>Konkle is an actor and writer who was the co-creator and star of <em>PEN15</em>, the tween comedy series where she starred as a middle schooler and reenacted many of these confusing scenes from growing up. She appeared most recently in the final season of HBO’s <em>Hacks</em>. </p><p>Podcast production by Cameron Drews. </p><p>Get more <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> show page on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/death-sex-money/id870688022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0yKEWqaqfaAKlSjYnDuisy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>. Or, visit <a href="https://slate.com/death-sex-money-plus?utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=plus_pod&utm_content=Death_Sex_Money&utm_source=episode_summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a> to get access wherever you listen.</p><p>If you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com.</p><br><p><br></p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>Actor Peter Dinklage and playwright Erica Schmidt have been married for two decades, and even though they’ve collaborated on projects, it’s rare for them to do an interview together. That’s why we were so excited when they agreed to join Anna on stage at the Tribeca Festival to discuss how they balance privacy and family, why they wish interviewers would stop fixating on Game of Thrones, and how they met on a romantic evening when elephants walked through Manhattan. </p><p>This episode was produced by Cameron Drews. Extra thanks to Alexandra Cohl and Katie Rayford, who helped with the live event, and Davy Gardner and Allyson Morgan, our talented friends at the Tribeca Festival. </p><p>Get more <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> show page on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/death-sex-money/id870688022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0yKEWqaqfaAKlSjYnDuisy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>. Or, visit <a href="https://slate.com/death-sex-money-plus?utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=plus_pod&utm_content=Death_Sex_Money&utm_source=episode_summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a> to get access wherever you listen.</p><p>If you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. </p><br><p><br></p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>Theo Baker was seventeen when he enrolled at Stanford and stumbled into one of the biggest stories on campus: academic misconduct allegations against the university's president. His reporting eventually forced the president out. In this episode, Theo talks about breaking that story, navigating backlash from classmates and faculty, and what he's learned about the ways Silicon Valley's culture of ambition and power shapes college life.</p><p>Theo’s book is <a href="https://theobaker.info/book" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to Rule the World: An Education in Power at Stanford University </a></p><p>Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate Plus</a>! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a>.</p><p>And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com.</p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>Romy Holland is a Berkeley mom whose meet-cute happened at a raucous sex party. That night she had sex with dozens of men, one of which would become her husband. In this episode, Romy talks about the party in question, from the sexy aspects to the much more awkward ones. Plus she talks about what new motherhood does to desire, and the unexpected emotional toll of an abortion that didn't go as planned.</p><p>Read Romy’s essay “<a href="https://romyholland.substack.com/p/what-nobody-told-me-about-abortion" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">What Nobody Told Me About Abortion</a>“</p><p>And we first heard about Romy in the San Francisco Standard’s story “<a href="https://sfstandard.com/2025/10/05/gang-bang-baby-love-story/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When A Gang Bang Becomes a Love Story</a>“ </p><p>Podcast production by Zoe Azulay</p><p>Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate Plus</a>! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a>.</p><p>And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. </p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>Anna talks to Alexis, a parent whose 8 year old son has an anxiety disorder, about what it was like attending a therapy program designed for parents of anxious children. Plus, Anna talks to the founder of <a href="https://www.spacetreatment.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the program</a>, Dr. Eli Lebowitz, Director of the Program for Anxiety Disorders at the Yale Child Study Center, and author of <a href="https://www.spacetreatment.net/manual-and-books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Breaking Free of Child Anxiety and OCD: A Scientifically Proven Program for Parents</em></a>.</p><p>Podcast production by Zoe Azulay</p><p>Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate Plus</a>! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a>.</p><p>And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com.</p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>The actor and travel writer Andrew McCarthy used to be a member of one of pop culture’s most famous friend groups: The Brat Pack. He starred in movies like <em>Pretty in Pink</em> and <em>St. Elmo’s Fire </em>and palled around with actors like Rob Lowe and Emilio Estevez.</p><p>Four decades later, in middle age, he found himself nearly friendless and set out on a cross-country road trip to reunite with the buddies he missed the most. This week on DSM, he tells Anna about the awkward conversations and tender moments that led to his new book <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/andrew-mccarthy/who-needs-friends/9781538768969/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Who Needs Friends: An Unscientific Examination of Male Friendship Across America</em></a>. </p><p>This episode was produced by Cameron Drews. </p><p>Get more <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the <em>Death, Sex & Money</em> show page on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/death-sex-money/id870688022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0yKEWqaqfaAKlSjYnDuisy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>. Or, visit <a href="https://slate.com/death-sex-money-plus?utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=plus_pod&utm_content=Death_Sex_Money&utm_source=episode_summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a> to get access wherever you listen.</p><p>If you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com.</p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>Tim Friede grew up in a strict, religious household with an obsession for science and a knack for breaking rules. He became fixated on a particular problem: roughly 120,000 people die from venomous snakebites every year worldwide.</p><p>He developed a theory that if he could become immune to snakebites, then his blood could be used to develop a better antivenom. So, he got to work. Over nearly two decades, while working odd jobs in factories and as a window washer, he allowed himself to be bitten over 200 times by the world's deadliest snakes, which he kept in his basement. Many of the people closest to him thought he was crazy, until his scheme worked. </p><p>Podcast production by Zoe Azulay. </p><p><strong>More episodes around risk and self-experimentation:</strong></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-jeb-corliss-jumps-off-cliffs/id870688022?i=1000372893313" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Why Jeb Corliss Jumps Off Cliffs</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hard-little-pill-big-pharma/id870688022?i=1000556392964" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Hard: Little Pill, Big Pharma</strong></a></p><p>Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate Plus</a>! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a>.</p><p>And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. </p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
<p>Kara Swisher has built an impressive career reporting on–and forcefully critiquing–the world of tech, especially the ultra-wealthy power players increasingly calling the shots. Since Steve Job’s death in 2011, she’s noticed a sharp uptick amongst those Silicon Valley elite doing all sorts of “wacky shit” to try and defy aging, extend their lifespan, and possibly even stop death itself. </p><p>On her new CNN series <a href="https://www.cnn.com/kara-swisher-wants-to-live-forever" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Kara Swisher Wants to Live Forever</em></a><em>, </em>Kara cracks jokes and tries out some of the buzziest longevity trends, but she takes very seriously the inequality of it all – how these unproven, but potentially ground-breaking treatments remain squarely out of reach for most of us, while proven medical care continues to get more expensive with worse outcomes. </p><p>Listen to our 2024 interview with Kara at the Tribeca Festival<a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/death-sex-money/2024/06/ara-swisher-and-orna-guralnik-on-interviewing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> here</a>. </p><p>Join us on June 10 for our 2026 Tribeca Festival live event with Peter Dinklage and Erica Schmidt. <a href="https://tribecafilm.com/films/death-sex-money-live-with-guests-peter-dinklage-erica-schmidt-2026" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Get your tickets here</a>. </p><p>Podcast production by Andrew Dunn</p><p>Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate Plus</a>! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at <a href="http://slate.com/dsmplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a>.</p><p>And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. </p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
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