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Published by Aliya Haq, Rich Powell, and Dr. Vijay Swarup
Energy Frenemies is a new podcast from CleanEcon, hosted by Aliya Haq (President, CleanEcon), Vijay Swarup (retired Vice President, ExxonMobil), and Rich Powell (CEO, CEBA). Three very different backgrounds, one North Star: America needs energy that's reliable, cheap, and clean. Getting there is where it gets interesting.
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Aliya is a veteran of the environmental movement, Vijay is a retired ExxonMobil executive, and Rich is a conservative clean energy leader. What could they possibly agree on? Turns out, a lot more than you'd think. In this episode, the three find out they agree on three guiding principles for energy policy.
What happens when a former environmentalist, a former ExxonMobil executive, and a Republican host an energy podcast together? Meet Energy Frenemies — a new podcast from CleanEcon , bringing together Aliya Haq , Dr. Vijay Swarup , and Rich Powell : three people with very different backgrounds and plenty of opinions about America's energy future. They disagree. They make fun of each other. And often, they find more common ground than you’d expect.
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