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To fully understand what we’re living through right now, we need to dig deeper into our history. Hosted by award-winning journalist Garrison Hayes, About That Life uncovers unsung and overlooked figures from Black history who challenged the status quo — from Gloria Richardson to George Washington Williams. Each episode traces the defiant, strategic and deeply human choices they made and sits down with people whose life and work connects to their legacy. The fight for justice has always had a playbook. And these stories provide the blueprint for a better future.
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How did comedy get so… political? Well, we have Dick Gregory to partially thank for that. Garrison and comedian/The Daily Show host Josh Johnson talk about Gregory’s subversive brand of political comedy, his activism and how he put his values above the fear of being cancelled. Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866. Support the show by subscribing on Substack Show Notes Guest: Josh Johnson Want to learn more? Read: N****r Dick Gregory’s Political Primer Watch: The One & Only Dick Gregory Follow Garrison YouTube TikTok Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Do you ever feel powerless in the face of an atrocity? Well, that never stopped George Washington Williams, a Black man who went from being a “barely literate” veteran to a crusader who exposed a genocide in the Congo and nearly toppled a king. Garrison and activist Mohammed Elnaiem discuss how we can learn from someone who let his faith and love for Black people around the world guide his actions. Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866. Support the show by subscribing on Substack Show Notes Guest: Mohammed Elnaiem Want to learn more? Read: George Washington Williams: A Biography History of the Negro Race: 1619-1880 King Leopold’s Ghost Watch: King Leopold’s Ghost More on the crisis in the Congo: Friends of the Congo Congo Week (Oct 18-24, 2026) Follow Garrison YouTube TikTok Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 1 - The Future According to Octavia Butler Sci-Fi author Octavia Butler seemed to have predicted our dystopian present over 30 years ago. But can her understanding of history help us change our future? Garrison and Erika Alexander (actor and futurist) discuss the power of radical imagination and the lasting impact of her work. Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866. Support the show by subscribing on Substack. Guest: Erika Alexander Want to learn more? Read: Kindred Parable of the Sower Parable of the Talents Positive Obsession: The Life and Times of Octavia E. Butler Watch: Octavia Butler: A Cautionary Tale Octavia Butler Interview with Julie Dash Follow Garrison Hayes: YouTube TikTok Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Lessons from the defiant ones– past and present. Coming August 26, 2026. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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