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Over the next decade, close to 90% of family businesses will change ownership. There will be no shortage of advice about strategy, structure, and numbers. But that's not where the real headaches are. Most people get tripped up by the stuff they didn't see coming. The hidden dynamics, unspoken tensions, assumptions, and blind spots that only show up once you're in it. It's the stuff you'd normally unpack over a beer with someone you trust, after the meeting, after the decision, after it's already played out. Shane Williams wants to have that beer now. Each fortnight, Shane sits down with the owners, investors, operators and advisors who've lived through it. They pull apart what actually happened, and surface the questions worth asking before you need them. Charge a glass, pull up a stool. Cheers.
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There are two conversations in every business transition. The official one that happens in boardrooms, management meetings and tidy documents, and the real one that happens afterwards, over a drink with someone you trust. This podcast is about the real one. Over the next decade, thousands of Australian businesses will face succession, sale or scale decisions, and the clean version on paper rarely matches the messy reality. Hosted by Shane Williams - a strategic advisor to SMEs - this show is for owners, families, buyers, investors, operators and advisors who want to better understand what really happens beneath the surface of business transition. Pull up a stool, grab your favourite drink and get ready to join the conversation. My Shout is where the board meeting ends and the real conversation starts.
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