Navigating Major Programmes

How do expertise, experience, and expectation combine to make a Master Builder? Lecia Stewart is the founder and principle of The Stewart Group, a consulting firm with a large portfolio of successful major projects. In this episode, she dives into hard-won insights gleaned from more than three decades leading projects from the building, corporate, and government sides of Canadian rail infrastructure. Lecia’s career success can be traced to her unique understanding of the intersection between design, utilization, operations, governance, and delivery. Helping teams get unstuck by telling the truth and getting to the bottom of problems is Lecia’s bread and butter. She reflects on the difference between advising from outside an organization and trying to drive change from within, as well as how today’s major projects have become weighed down by fragmented accountability and excessive oversight. Human and cultural dimensions impact the success of major projects as much or more than the technical expertise on the ground. Lecia discusses the importance of political champions, the role of single-purpose entities, and why organizational culture determines whether the tools in a project team’s toolkit will work. She shares her experience as a woman and non-engineer in technical, male-dominated environments. She makes a strong case for building transferable social (aka “soft”) skills that span industry and subject matter; this kind of expertise is proven time and again to bring infrastructure projects to completion and meet the ever-elusive goal of “on time and on budget.” Key takeaways The need for consultants with experience and confidence to tell truth to power; Why infrastructure delivery has become more burdened by process, oversight, and diffused accountability; How leadership can “clear away the shopping carts” so project teams can do the work they were appointed to do; How political champions, single-purpose entities, and organizational culture shape project success; The impacts of focusing too heavily on gender disparity in the workforce. Quote “I’m focused on breaking down those needless barriers of time and process that get in the way from us being able to execute on the commitments that we’re asked to do.” - Lecia Stewart The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Follow Shormila Chatterjee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shormilac/ Follow Evgenia Jilina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ejilina/ Follow Lecia Stewart: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lecia-stewart-6b27b09/

How do you measure the impact of one small, industry-focused podcast? In this co-hosts-only episode, Riccardo and Evgenia step back from the usual format to consider what it means to be showrunners, why the conversations they’re leading matter, and how Navigating Major Programmes has evolved as a platform for public discussion in the infrastructure industry. Evgenia reflects on her journey from listener, to guest, to co-host and the anxieties and adjustments that come with sharing ideas publicly, engaging with knowledgeable guests, and gaining confidence in the perspectives she has developed over 15 years in the industry. The conversation explores the role of independent, not-for-profit platforms in a sector where large-scale sponsored events can limit the range of viewpoints being shared. Riccardo and Evgenia discuss whether the podcast has a large enough platform to make a difference and the impact of guest selection and frequency on audience growth. They also reflect on the challenge of scaling the podcast without compromising its independence. The hosts also make time to tackle the broader development of major project leadership in Canada. Riccardo shares the original impetus behind the podcast, which has since evolved into the Canadian Major Projects Leadership Academy at the University of Toronto. The industry experts acknowledge and break down the gap between technical infrastructure expertise and the demands of leading major and mega projects, where so-called “soft” skills become increasingly critical. Riccardo and Evgenia’s final consensus won’t surprise loyal listeners: Navigating Major Programmes is a forum for practical ideas, meaningful connections, and ongoing conversations that help shape the future of infrastructure delivery. Key Takeaways How hosting a podcast builds confidence in and validation for industry perspectives; The opportunity for independent platforms to create space for more diverse, real-world conversations about infrastructure; The potential of the new Canadian Infrastructure Leadership Academy to fill a sector-wide leadership and business operations gap; How organizations like the Future of Infrastructure Group (FIG) help turn conversations into action; The reasons behind the unique skill set required for major project management. Quote “FIG really turbocharged the amount of ground that can be covered by the initiative.” - Riccardo Cosentino The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Evgenia Jilina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ejilina/ Learn more about the Future of Infrastructure Group: https://infrastructurelab.com/future-of-infrastructure-group/ Follow the Future of Infrastructure Group: https://ca.linkedin.com/company/future-of-infrastructure-group Stay informed about the upcoming Canadian Infrastructure Leadership Academy at U of T: https://infrastructureinstitute.ca/leadership-academy/

As Canada increasingly champions self-sufficiency, what does the future look like for dual-use technologies and the country’s defence manufacturing? Shormila and Evgenia go to the source to explore this timely question. Dina Tzirakos-Hawker is the Managing Director of Barrie’s Sandbox Centre, Ontario’s newest regional innovation centre. She is immersed in the country’s varied innovative pursuits and the policies and frameworks that both stymie and support it. Though new to the military industry, Dina has spent the last two years fervently learning from experts and devising her own innovative strategies for building bridges. Her goal: help companies with potential dual-use products understand what it actually takes to move from innovation to procurement in this complex, compliance-heavy sector. The conversation explores the difference between simply having technology with defence applications and building a company that is truly ready to operate in the space. Dina points to AI, quantum, advanced communications, and drone systems as having great potential, but also stresses the less glamorous realities that determine success: manufacturing capacity, testing sites, cybersecurity infrastructure, compliance, clearances, procurement knowledge, and long sales cycles. For founders, the opportunity is significant, but it requires strategy, sector knowledge, and a realistic understanding of the customer and process—knowledge often gatekept from burgeoning companies. Through her conversations with all sides, Dina has identified a need for better coordination between government, industry, accelerators, municipalities, suppliers, and infrastructure partners. She explains the information-sharing concept behind a recent “Defence 101” event that filled a significant gap by offering more than 150 companies from around the world practical guidance on entering the sector. Dina sees this moment as both a massive opportunity and a major turning point for Canada, but dual-use innovation will not scale through technology alone. It will require collective support, practical infrastructure, patient capital, and a shared commitment to helping Canadian companies thrive in this self-sufficient future. Key Takeaways Why the “unsexy” side of defence tech—manufacturing, testing, compliance, cybersecurity, and infrastructure—matters so much; How Canada can create stronger on-ramps between innovation, procurement, and defence readiness; What roadblocks smaller suppliers may face when navigating long procurement cycles and thin margins; Why Canada’s defence innovation push may require both public support and private investment; How a collaborative “village mentality” can help Canadian companies thrive in a growing defence ecosystem. Quote: “I don’t think we have a choice but to make this succeed. When you invest in your own defence capabilities…we almost make a recession-proofed business.” - Dina Tzirakos-Hawker The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Shormila Chatterjee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shormilac/ Follow Evgenia Jilina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ejilina/ Follow Dina Tzirakos-Hawker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dinatzirakos/

What can market research reveal about Canadians’ true thoughts on infrastructure? When making decisions about lengthy construction projects, taking the public temperature is vital. But sometimes, it’s hard to know which questions to ask. In this episode, Shormila speaks with Oksana Kishchuk, VP of Insights at Abacus Data, about how market research can reveal the Canadian mindset—and what that means for major programmes, public policy, and infrastructure delivery. After spending nearly a decade listening to Canadians across sectors, including resources, healthcare, education, and public affairs, Oksana is the ideal spokesperson for data collection: how it helps bridge the gab between decision-makers and voters by showing not only what people think, but why they think it. The conversation explores how the public’s priorities have shifted from the scarcity mindset of the pandemic to a present-day sense of precarity. Using Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs as a lens, Oksana explains that most people are focused on financial security, rising costs, and instability in the wider world. The research suggests Canadians agree, in general, about the problems, even though the impacts of those problems vary across generations. Now, they’re looking to their leaders for solutions that will stabilize our national foundation. This context impacts public views on everything from defence and pipelines to healthcare, energy, and long-term infrastructure projects, and it opens a unique opportunity for leaders in both government and infrastructure: prove you are listening to Canadians, and Canadians will place their trust in the stability solutions you present. Key Takeaways How market research helps leaders understand not just what Canadians think, but why they think it; What the voting public’s expectations of progress mean for governments and major project leaders; Why Canadians may be more open than usual to long-term, nation-building solutions; How public sentiment has changed around healthcare, defence, pipelines, and other major sectors; Why we need timely stakeholder communication, not just expert assumptions. Quote: “It’s a really great moment…the public is actually aligned in what I would say is a fairly rare opportunity to create nation-building, big projects.” - Oksana Kishchuk The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Shormila Chatterjee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shormilac/ Follow Oksana Kishchuk: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oksanakishchuk/

How can an intentional career trajectory help you create your ideal job? In the thought leadership pieces he has published on LinkedIn for years, Riccardo Cosentino has been transparent about the hard work that has led to his success, as well as the burnout and failures along the way. This episode provides a peek behind the publishing curtain: Mikaila Kukurudza, who writes those well-read pieces based on conversations with Riccardo, takes her insightful interviewing process on the record. The probing behind-the-scenes conversation with Riccardo explores his recent transition into the role of SVP of Nuclear Financing at AtkinsRéalis. The two cover emerging opportunities—both cultivated and circumstantial—and shine a light on the way major programmes ties into the changing needs of this resurging industry. Riccardo reflects on why nuclear became the clear next step in his career and how the demands of financing these energy endeavours compare to transit projects. The conversation also goes beyond the technical to examine the personal questions underneath: how to learn at a senior level, how to create opportunities that did not previously exist in pursuit of purpose, and how to manage burnout. Riccardo is open about what this transition has taught him about motivation, leadership, failure, and returning to the kind of major programmes work that energizes him the most. Key Takeaways What makes financing nuclear projects different from financing other major infrastructure; Why nuclear power has re-entered the conversation around energy sovereignty and long-term infrastructure planning; Why creating your own opportunity can require curiosity, persistence, and a willingness to hit dead ends; How senior leaders continue learning when stepping into new industries or highly specialized roles; What the career roadmap can teach about leadership, empathy, and impact. Quote: “All the things I’ve done since 2019…I was looking for a purpose." - Riccardo Cosentino The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Listen to Riccardo’s article on burnout: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/grass-greener-riccardo-cosentino/ Follow Mikaila Kukurudza: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikaila-kukurudza/

How do we finance nuclear power plants in Canada? In this episode, Riccardo applies his experience financing large infrastructure projects to a deep-dive discussion with Chris Keefer. The Toronto physician and the President of Canadians for Nuclear Energy has excellent questions about the renaissance of this energy source and the process of funding these vast, costly, and promising initiatives. Riccardo explains why nuclear has historically depended on sovereign balance sheets, public utilities, and government-backed financing—and why the long-tail construction risk of the sector makes private lenders wary. The conversation compares nuclear to other major infrastructure and energy assets, from hydroelectric projects and bridges to combined-cycle gas turbines. Along the way, Chris and Riccardo unpack key financing concepts and why construction certainty is such a major determinant of cost of capital. The discussion explores existing projects, such as Hinkley Point C, Sizewell C, the Thames Tideway Tunnel, and Ontario’s nuclear context to show how risk is assigned, priced, and sometimes pushed back onto governments or ratepayers. Ultimately, the episode highlights that there is no universally good or bad financing model. The right structure depends on policy objectives, owner capability, risk appetite, market conditions, and whether the project can attract private capital without driving up the long-term cost of electricity. For Ontario and other jurisdictions considering new nuclear, the central challenge is not simply whether to use public or private money, but how to bring the right capital into the project while keeping the cost of that capital low. Key takeaways Why public interest infrastructure often requires more than a simple public-versus-private financing debate The benefits of public-sector or sovereign-backed financing for nuclear projects; Why transferring risk to the private sector can make electricity more expensive; What select UK nuclear power plants reveal about different nuclear financing models; Why Ontario’s experienced nuclear owner position may shape how future projects are financed. Quote: “Project finance is asset-agnostic." -Riccardo Cosentino The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Follow Chris Keefer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-keefer-md-166a3698/

What does it take to excel as a systems leader in our rapidly changing modern landscape? Robert Siegel is the ideal guest to speak to this inquiry. The Stanford management professor, venture capitalist, and author of “The Systems Leader” joins Riccardo and Evgenia for a conversation about what our increasingly complex world requires of leaders and how these expectations tie in to major projects. Drawing on decades of experience across diverse fields, Robert explains why leaders today are requiring more varied skill sets than ever before to navigate the vast ecosystems they operate within. Large infrastructure projects are an excellent example of complex adaptive systems, where leaders must manage technical delivery while staying alert to shifting stakeholders, market conditions, social expectations, and organizational pressures. From local and global dynamics to balancing ambition and stewardship, Robert outlines the cross-pressures facing individuals pursuing leadership in infrastructure and beyond. Charging managers with continuous learning and the development of diverse traits, from gravitas to getting their hands dirty, Robert speaks to the leadership mindset and what may be a hard truth to swallow: accepting change and questioning how things have “always been done” are not nice-to-haves when it comes to leadership. Ultimately, he makes the case that leaders are defined by their ability to see the system, stay grounded under pressure, and remain adaptable within an ever-evolving future. Key takeaways: Why great leaders need breadth as well as depth—and what happens when specialists stay in their silos; The traits great leaders do and don’t possess; The five cross-pressures today’s leaders must navigate; Why systems leadership requires the courage to challenge the status quo; How and why leaders need to adjust their approach for younger generations and emerging technologies. Quote: “Whatever function you’re in or how senior you are, you’ll be able to be better at your job if you understand the issues of the broader system.” - Robert Siegel The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Follow Evgenia Jilina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ejilina/ Follow Robert Siegel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertesiegel/

Where does the infrastructure industry currently sit in the adoption of AI-driven technologies? In this episode of Uncharted Conversations, Shormila flips the tables on Riccardo to pick his brain about one of the most discussed—and most misunderstood—topics in the future of work today: artificial intelligence. A long-time watcher and learner on this innovative subject, Riccardo has followed the progress of AI for decades. Drawing on his well-rounded knowledge, Shormila guides an exploration of his perspectives on what AI actually means in practice for infrastructure and why the current hype often skips over the harder questions of value, cost, data, and implementation. As frustrating as they may be for those in the industry embracing AI, there are good reasons why infrastructure has been slower to adopt these technologies than other sectors. Riccardo points to a fragmented project-based environment, tight contractor margins, and limited reinvestment in digitalization. Most importantly, the industry suffers from a widespread lack of structured data, which AI systems need to be effective and efficient. Rather than treating AI as either a job-killing threat or a guaranteed revolution, Riccardo upholds it as a tool—one with significant potential, but only when embedded thoughtfully into real processes. He talks through an intriguing AutoCAD parallel, uncertain economics, the limits of digital twins, and where infrastructure may see more practical value, such as scheduling and project analysis. AI may transform infrastructure one day, but only if the industry as a whole takes on the difficult work of digitalizing, structuring data, and integrating the ever-evolving roster of tools into industry-wide workflows. Key takeaways: The primary reasons the infrastructure industry is behind in AI adoption; How the AI of the early 2000s became the AI we know today; AutoCAD and AI: tools that change work, not overwrite it; Why AI value depends on truly structured data, not just more project information; Where AI holds the most promise for the future of infrastructure management and project delivery. Quote: “Robotics is what the construction industry needs…and robotics is just not there.” - Riccardo Cosentino The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Follow Shormila Chatterjee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shormilac/

What is team coaching, and is it more than just an expensive, touchy-feely extra on major projects? How we behave and perform under pressure is one of the less visible parts of any infrastructure undertaking, but the fact remains: people and leaders are behind every aspect of every project. In this episode, Riccardo and Evgenia are joined by Christi Mertens, the founder of Invisible Discipline. Their probing conversation on human behaviour and how it impacts outcomes addresses the skepticism that so often surfaces when coaching is suggested. Major programmes bring together strangers from multiple organizations and expect timely success under the pressure of huge deliverables and billions of dollars, all despite different corporate cultures, incentives, habits, and assumptions. Drawing on her background in behavioural science, strategic planning, and organization team coaching, Christi’s work today focuses on project teams across the full lifecycle. From development and procurement through handover and asset management, she helps them understand and act on how the people around them actually communicate, collaborate, and follow through. Christi explains why motivation is not enough, and how team coaching helps build awareness at three levels: the individual, the team, and the broader operating system they are working within. The discussion doesn’t shy away from the industry’s ingrained resistance. It tackles why owners and project leaders often question the value of coaching, why vulnerability can be difficult for senior specialists, and why collaborative aims need discipline, habits, and tools to be realized. Before she’s done, Christi offers up practical advice for directors forming project bid teams for the first time. This episode highlights what is really behind projects that finish on time, on budget, and without a stack of hostile claims on file. Lasting success depends on reflection, feedback, alignment, and an intentional culture that helps people solve shared problems together. Key takeaways How team coaching works across the “me,” the “we,” and the broader project operating system; Why motivation is not enough without discipline, habits, and tools for changing behaviour; The difference between coaching short-term project and long-term organizational teams; Whether or not a true collaborative contract is required for successful collaboration; The risk and reality of trying to be part of a high-performance team. Quote: “Motivation doesn’t get you very far…Without discipline and habits and tools for changing behaviour, it’s really had to see follow-through.” - Christi Mertens The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Riccardo’s spreadsheet “AI Startups in Engineering & Construction”: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TCvfRqqd1NzxgMhVoTMbKeL9bOp_1-mn/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=100654060211988607651&rtpof=true&sd=true Riccardo’s LinkedIn Article “AI Startups in AE&C (Architectural, Engineering and Construction)”: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-startups-aec-architectural-engineering-riccardo-cosentino-bvhrc/ Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Follow Evgenia Jilina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ejilina/ Follow Christi Mertens: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christi-mertens/

What is the sweet spot between digital project delivery and inclusive, diverse collaboration? Digital transformation is a significant player in the field of project delivery improvement and innovation. Sheryl Staub-French, a UBC Civil Engineering professor and 20-year infrastructure and building information modelling veteran, is the perfect spokesperson for its journey. Sheryl joins Evgenia for a conversation that centres change—both technological and cultural—for the betterment of the infrastructure industry. The sector is long (and infamously) plagued by the spectre of over-budget-and-over-time, and Sheryl’s research seeks to uncover innovations that can shift this trend. It all starts, she stresses, at a systems level. In their conversation, Evgenia and Sheryl explore Sheryl’s leadership in equity, diversity, and inclusion, including her role as the first Associate Dean of ED&I in UBC’s Faculty of Applied Science and the first female head of her department. Sheryl reflects on the persistent underrepresentation of women and Indigenous students in engineering, the importance of groundbreaking systems and culture change, and why inclusion of all kinds is not separate from project success. The discussion also burrows deep into the human and technical sides of infrastructure innovation. Pointing to specific successes in other countries, Sheryl argues that digital tools alone will not transform the industry unless owners, teams, and organizations are ready to change how they work together and implement that change at an organizational, not individual, level. Whether discussing BIM, IPD, AI, or engineering education, Sheryl returns to a core idea: better infrastructure delivery depends on better collaboration, better data, and better systems for bringing all voices and expertise into the work. Key takeaways Why Canada’s lack of a national digital transformation strategy leaves infrastructure delivery behind its fellow G7 countries; How equity, diversity, and inclusion connect directly to better engineering education and on-the-ground outcomes; What’s possible with a true, human-focused, collaborative IPD approach to infrastructure; Why collaboration requires aligned incentives, shared risk, shared reward, and trust—not just new tools; How AI could improve the efficiency and completeness of information commissioning and handover practices. Quote: “If people don’t feel included, if it’s not diverse, if all voices aren’t being heard, it’s not successful.” - Sheryl Staub-French The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Evgenia Jilina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ejilina/ Follow Sheryl Staub-French: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sstaubfrench/

What does it take to bring women into infrastructure—and keep them there? The goal was once simply to get female leaders a seat at the table. Today, this growing demographic in the industry rightfully demands not just an invitation but influence and impact once they’re there. In this episode, Evgenia and Shormila are joined by Marisa Espinosa (AECOM) and Karla Avis-Birch (Arup) for a thoughtful conversation about what it takes not only to enter the sector, but to stay long enough to shape the future of capital projects. Both guests bring deep experience in transportation and major programmes, along with distinct paths into the industry. Their conversation explores the leadership qualities required in a sector where technical and human complexity are equally matched. Marisa and Karla discuss the importance of purpose, passion, life experience, and systemized thinking in ensuring teams stay productive and connected. They also reflect on the need for diverse perspectives when building infrastructure that serves real communities. Opportunity, support, and thoughtful policies all contribute to keeping women coming to and growing within their industry. Both Marisa and Karla play important roles in their local WTS chapters and speak to the need for robust networks both inside and outside the office. They celebrate the relationships that provide both confidence and community, as existing and upcoming generations of infrastructure leaders continue to push the boundaries of what’s possible. Key Takeaways: Why transportation leadership starts with understanding how people actually rely on infrastructure; The essential leadership traits for everyone climbing the ranks in major projects; What women’s lived experience brings to infrastructure decision-making and project delivery; How non-linear careers, caregiving, and confidence gaps affect women’s progression in the industry; The role of women-led networks like WTS in building community, credibility, and opportunity. Quote: “What’s your own leadership imprint? Who you are as a leader; how do you want to show up?…That’s important” - Marisa Espinosa The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Toronto chapter of the WTS: https://www.wtsinternational.org/chapters/toronto/about Vancouver chapter of the WTS: https://www.wtsinternational.org/chapters/vancouver/about Follow Shormila Chatterjee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shormilac/ Follow Evgenia Jilina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ejilina/ Follow Marisa Espinosa: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marisa-espinosa-a575314/ Follow Karla Avis-Birch: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karla-avis-birch-p-eng-a8a8b1152/

What can adventures in vibecoding and broadening one’s understanding of AI models reveal about the future of infrastructure? In this episode, the podcast makes a 180 as Lawrence Rowland turns the microphone on Riccardo. What follows is a wide-ranging and deep-delving conversation about modelling, artificial intelligence, systems thinking, and the role these evolving tools might play in major programmes. They begin with Riccardo’s development of an International Roughness Index (IRI) prediction model to better understand pavement degradation—an example of using data to challenge linear assumptions and improve infrastructure decision-making. From there, the discussion follows Riccardo’s learning journey through reinforcement learning, coding agents, decision intelligence, reality capture, knowledge graphs, and the future of physical AI. Along the way, Lawrence and Riccardo bring the discussion back to what these tools mean for project leaders: why humans and organizational processes remain the weakest link in adopting new technology, how AI can support—not replace—human decision-making, and why meaningfully connecting the data is the biggest determinant of success. The episode also explores the softer but no-less-essential side of major programmes, including relationship complexity, stakeholder power, information asymmetry, and the limits of tools like Gantt charts in representing the real dynamics of project delivery. Finally, Riccardo reflects on what his AI experiments and podcast journey have taught him about his own niche. This conversation covers all the bases: curiosity, humility, and the need to keep rethinking how we understand, manage, and learn from complex infrastructure systems. Key takeaways The future of LLMs and physical AI in major projects; What old-school video games have to do with building prediction models; How decision intelligence can begin to support, but not replace, project leadership; The difference between complex and complicated—and why it matters for systems thinking; What delving into AI and its possibilities has taught Riccardo about his niche. Quote “[In today’s LLMs], through brute prompting, you can actually get to the answer you want…but it’s a very convoluted path.” - Riccardo Cosentino The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Riccardo’s spreadsheet “AI Startups in Engineering & Construction”: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TCvfRqqd1NzxgMhVoTMbKeL9bOp_1-mn/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=100654060211988607651&rtpof=true&sd=true Riccardo’s LinkedIn Article “AI Startups in AE&C (Architectural, Engineering and Construction)”: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-startups-aec-architectural-engineering-riccardo-cosentino-bvhrc/ Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Follow Lawrence Rowland: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawrencerowland/

How do you champion an authentic leadership style in a sector that’s slow to adapt to change? Infrastructure Ontario President and CEO Angela Clayton has traversed this career journey by building a robust network while maintaining a deep dedication to continuing education and an iron-clad work ethic. She joins Riccardo and Shormila for a candid conversation about career growth and what it means (and doesn’t mean) to be a woman in leadership in this male-dominated industry. Angela has seen the benefits of prioritizing community and collaboration in many facets of her career. She reflects on her history of learning on the job and how employer-supported professional development has transformed her trajectory. She and the hosts dig into the practical realities of leadership in major programmes and the mistaken assumption that great individual contributors naturally become great leaders. She also speaks frankly about being the only woman in the room, and how essential trust in hard-earned champions, while it doesn’t negate impostor syndrome, certainly puts it into perspective. The discussion also explores IO’s evolution over time, Angela’s approach to her transition to CEO, and her future plans for pursuing more impact-driven work. Discover this successful industry innovator’s take on the shifts leaders must make as they navigate new roles and her thoughtful advice for women aspiring to excel in infrastructure. Key takeaways: How a strong network creates career opportunities, and why getting the job is only the beginning; The pitfall of assuming technical excellence translates into project and people leadership; How to think about “diversity hires” without tokenism—and what real sponsorship looks like; The culture and mandate evolution of Infrastructure Ontario; The mental shift required when moving from PM issues management to CEO vision and culture development. Quote: “[Former peers who now report to me are] some of my most trusted advisors. They have the history of the organization, and it’s so valuable to have that institutional knowledge.” - Angela Clayton The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Follow Shormila Chatterjee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shormilac/ Follow Angela Clayton: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelafclayton/

To what extent is leadership success contingent on specific industry expertise? Marcia Medrano began her career in buildings, not transit. Yet, her experience developing and guiding teams, budgets, and procurement projects is proof that people management is not bound by sector—as long as you’re willing to make the most of the experts around you. In this episode of Master Builder, Riccardo and Shormila sit down with the Executive Vice President of Capital Projects at Metrolinx to explore what it takes to rise to leadership without pretending you’re an expert in everything. Marcia traces her path from architecture and vertical infrastructure to transit delivery and the core lesson that’s shaped her career: big infrastructure delivery is fundamentally about people—building trust, aligning teams, and getting things done. Marcia doesn’t hesitate to push back against conventions and assumptions. Choosing to leverage her parallel expertise rather than be daunted by a new sector, she often asks, “Why not?” Over and over, she sees the question unlock progress in new and exciting approaches for the infrastructure industry. The three experts hold a candid discussion about impostor syndrome and women in leadership, the superiority of alliance projects, and the importance of transparency on all sides of a major programme. They call out the danger of blindly following rigid structures and the shifting of the status quo as the Canadian infrastructure industry dives into ever larger and more ambitious projects. Throughout it all, Marcia champions a new understanding of steering the ship, and all the assets that come along with “leading like a woman.” Key takeaways The relationship-building and human connection that underpin infrastructure delivery success; How transparency drives success, however varied a team’s expertise and experience; Why incentivizing on-the-ground solutions and cooperation outweighs claims that stall progress at every turn; The importance of updated governance and project-wide empowerment on the owner side of collaborative contracts; What’s poised to change for women in infrastructure leadership. Quote “Challenging our own biases of the things that we know and the things that we don’t know is part of challenging the status quo.” - Marcia Medrano The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Navigating Major Programmes, Season 2 Episode 6 with Lawrence Rowland: https://navigatingmajorprogrammes.transistor.fm/s2/23 Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Follow Marcia Medrano: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcia-medrano-34a2962a/

How is AI poised to transform our workflows and working relationships in the coming months and years? There’s no question that large language models have had an enormous impact on our lives—and most of us have barely scratches the surface of what is possible with these powerful tools. In this episode, Lawrence Rowland joins Riccardo to unpack all that’s changed since his last appearance on the podcast in 2024. Lawrence is a veteran of project management with a laser focus on AI transformation and strategy. Together, he and Riccardo explore numerous angles of working with these inhuman (but increasingly capable) agents on everything from research to reporting to improving coworker interaction. The conversation stays grounded in practice: the pair drills down on the massive shifts in AI in merely months, why token budgets matter, and the growing ability of programs to self-prompt and think outside the boxes of our requests. Lawrence shares the fascinating way he uses AI—to synthesize methodologies, generate playbooks, pressure-test thinking, and reveal tacit insights missing from current project narratives. The two AI buffs also confront the human side of the transition, including where accountability falls when work is partially automated and what “transformative AI” might mean for careers and organizations. Less about hype and more about adaptation, Lawrence and Riccardo’s conversation hones in the theory on constraints. They remove the rose-tinted glasses and speak to redesigning workflows based on a practical, vital question: where is AI genuinely better, and where are humans still essential? Key Takeaways: How agentic AI shifts work from prompting to task-level execution; The reasoning capacity of AI tools based on token budgets and model capability; The concept of underwriting in retaining human liability in AI-dominated work How theory of constraints and bottleneck thinking helps decide what to automate vs keep human; How AI can improve communication and project alignment by translating complex work for different audiences. Quote: “Either you’re checking the AI or the AI is checking you, and getting used to that will set you up for the new economy.” - Lawrence Rowland The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Navigating Major Programmes, Season 2 Episode 6 with Lawrence Rowland: https://navigatingmajorprogrammes.transistor.fm/s2/23 NBER “Economics of Transformative AI Workshop, Fall 2025”: https://www.nber.org/conferences/economics-transformative-ai-workshop-fall-2025 arXiv “Some Simple Economics of AGI” by Christian Catalini, Xiang Hui, Jane Wu: https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.20946 SSRN PDF “Some Simple Economics of AGI”: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/6298838.pdf?abstractid=6298838&mirid=1 Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Follow Lawrence Rowland: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawrencerowland/

What can a long career in urban transit reveal about collaboration, contracts, and system integration? In this episode, Evgenia and Shormila guide a wide-ranging conversation with transit veteran Ron Aitken. The discussion ties together his nearly five decades of experience in Canadian and international infrastructure projects. Ron is an expert in what makes complex urban transit work: clarity of requirements, disciplined change control, and the relationships and experience on both sides of the contract. Examples from Vancouver and abroad illustrate the outcomes of effective collaboration, a concept that existed (and succeeded) long before it was being written into the alliance and collaborative contracts presently in vogue. Risk balance, project definition, and synergy have always impacted major programmes. The industry is evolving, and this conversation doesn’t shy away from exploring that. Owners are taking back certain systems integration responsibilities and accepting more risk. Interface and requirements management are becoming more essential, and the adoption of new AI tools is transforming scheduling and delivery across the board. Throughout their broad dialogue, Ron reinforces a simple but oft-overlooked fact: delivery models matter, but the culture and the people matter more. Key Takeaways: Why procurement models don’t guarantee success; How early automated transit programs forced teams to build delivery capability, not just technology; Why trust and respect must be built quickly—and why experience on both sides of the contract is non-negotiable; How systems integration drives risk in urban transit—and why “systems first” scheduling and access planning matters The approaches that can mitigate and even abolish claims in major projects. Quote: “I recommend to people just starting their career: get yourself a helmet and boots and find your way out onto the site” - Ron Aitken The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Shormila Chatterjee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shormilac/ Follow Evgenia Jilina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ejilina/ Follow Ron Aitken: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ron-aitken-a9275468/

What would it take to prioritize major programme outcomes over more familiar factors like price and procedural fairness? This is the question posed by Peter Weltman, the guest host on this Uncharted Conversations episode. Peter notes that Canada’s infrastructure industry is struggling to maintain what it already has, much less build what it needs next. Iterating is likely to fail, so what are the alternatives? Co-hosts Shormila, David, Melissa, and Riccardo quickly surface the real tension: “outcomes” are often harder to define, measure, and defend than cost—and public procurement systems are deliberately built for political optics and to avoid the perception of discretionary decision-making. Together, the panel explores why technical merit often fails to meaningfully influence selection and why innovation tends to get squeezed out when projects are seen as fixed scope from the beginning. From there, the conversation widens beyond RFP mechanics into bigger levers: risk appetite for unsolicited proposals, whether Canada needs an “infrastructure venture fund” for ideas, and the value of portfolio thinking. Canada may not be ready to blow up the whole system. However, examples—including new financing entities and development-partner models—both within and beyond infrastructure highlight alternative pathways that are already emerging. Key Takeaways The problem with reducing “value for money” to competitive pricing in major projects; The difficulty in defining “outcome-based procurement” beyond cost; How better technical discrimination can prevent price from dominating “best value” selections; The potential for more rigorous schedule and delivery certainty evaluation through risk analysis; How entities might catalyze more innovative deal structures than classic linear procurements. Quote: “How do we create the incentives to build the capacity to do things in a more innovative way, realize more budget, more benefits?” - Peter Weltman The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Follow Shormila Chatterjee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shormilac/ Follow Melissa Di Marco: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissa-di-marco/ Follow Peter Weltman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-weltman/

Behind every major programme is a project manager—but how do they get there? For a practical and informative conversation on the current PM job market, Riccardo sits down with Mukhtar Kadiri, whose extensive project management experience has culminated in his work as a Program Director and Career Coach, where he helps project management professionals compete for high-compensation roles in the industry. Though the hiring environment for PMs today varies by niche and region, competition is heavy across the board, and Mukhtar recommends all job searchers have a strategy—that they approach the search like a project in itself. He and Riccardo explore how candidates can use AI to make the most of their application process and the essential steps to get a foot in the door. Mukhtar has tips for employers and hiring managers, as well. Job searching is a skill, Mukhtar stresses, and this episode offers actionable ideas of how to approach the work intentionally. Specific and backed by plenty of real-world experience, Muhktar’s perspective is essential listening for employees and employers alike, whether they’re currently on the job hunt or planning to begin searching in the future. Key Takeaways How today’s PM job market is changing competition, screening, and expectations; The five-part strategy, from application to highest offer, that hones your job search skills; Why you need to pitch differently to recruiters and hiring managers; How to utilize AI beyond asking it to write your cover letter for you; The traits employers should emphasize to win the best candidate. Quote “Job searching is a skill” - Mukhtar Kadiri The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Follow Mukhtar Kadiri at https://www.linkedin.com/in/m-kadiri/

What happens behind the scenes before a project bid is even accepted? The delivery outcome component of major programmes is fascinating, but a lot occurs long before procurement, design, and development get underway. Taking a step back, and behind the curtain, Riccardo, Shormila, and special co-host Evgenia Jilina, Colliers’ Transit Regional Sector Director, dive deep into what happens before the Request for Proposal is published. The three infrastructure professionals explore the competitive, resource-intensive work that happens upstream: strategic positioning, RFQs and RFPs, partnership decisions, and the internal calculus of whether a proposal is worth the investment of pursuing at all. They break down why “winning” a project is rarely about a single submission moment. Preparing a proposal can cost millions, pull top talent off active work for months, and take months or even years—a lengthy span of time where assumptions, teams, and even the market can change. They make the case that capture planning is so much more than paperwork—it’s the training plan behind the goal: the structure that helps organizations choose which opportunities to chase and show up with the right partners and narrative when it counts. Together, the panel tackles the uncomfortable tension at the heart of public procurement. It’s a system designed to prevent influence, yet meaningful early interactions help clients clarify needs and bidders understand the real problem. In the end, a strategic but authentic engagement approach inevitably weighs into the final decision. Real success is so much more than a lucrative “win”: it’s a mutually beneficial relationship where client, bidder, and the public recipients of the infrastructure all triumph. Key Takeaways: Why capture planning is essential to success, not a waste of time and money; How organizations decide which pursuits are worth prep that costs millions, months, and their best players; What successful early engagement looks like before an RFQ or RFP is issued; Why early conversations should be reframed as “engagement” rather than “influencing”; How to build bid teams around strengths and gaps instead of searching for a unicorn. Quote: “The stakes are high…you’re expected from day one to start on a project that’s bigger than the GDP of some small countries.” - Shormila Charterjee The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Riccardo Cosentino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosentinoriccardo/ Follow Shormila Chatterjee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shormilac/ Follow Evgenia Jilina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ejilina/

What does it take to become a celebrated leader in infrastructure? With more than four decades of experience in the public and private sectors, Bruce McCuaig is ideally suited to answer this complex question. He joins Riccardo to reflect on leadership, delivery, and building major programmes that “matter now and one hundred years from now.” Bruce shares what has shaped his philosophy: an enduring enthusiasm for the legacy of transportation projects, a belief in multidisciplinary teamwork, and a practical approach to collaborative management of risk. He breaks down key qualities of senior leadership: listening and guiding, not seizing control and credit. Riccardo and Bruce’s conversation explores the recent shift in Canada toward alliance delivery models. True to his leadership style, Bruce argues that while a broad toolkit of procurement and contracting approaches is useful, collaboration is essential to every successful project, whatever the model. He advocates for giving “fearless advice,” supporting teams with training, and empowering them with trust. In the end, a united approach that puts the public’s best interest front and centre throughout every project ultimately leads to legacies worth building. Key Takeaways How a far-ranging career builds judgment, adaptability, and impact across sectors; Why listening is a paramount skill every leader needs to possess; How to develop a culture of collaboration on every major project; Approaching risk as shared and holistic, rather than “ours vs. theirs;” The skills hiring teams should prioritize when filling infrastructure leadership roles Quote: “Sometimes, there might be a Eureka moment where the senior leader can say ‘this is the solution!’, but [more often], it’s about helping the team get to a solution.” - Bruce McCuaig The conversation doesn’t stop here—connect and converse with our community via LinkedIn: Follow Navigating Major Programmes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/navigating-major-programmes/ Read Riccardo’s latest at www.riccardocosentino.com Follow Shormila Chatterjee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shormilac/ Follow Bruce McCuaig: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bruce-mccuaig-a1749549/