Complex with Kimberley Wilson

Is the voice inside your head telling you off for something you’ve done? That’s shame, and it makes us feel like there’s something wrong with us. Kimberley and her guest clinical psychologist Dr Emma Hepburn - also known as Psychology Mom on social media - dig into this often unwanted and uncomfortable emotion, why we feel it and what we can do about it. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is: complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us, but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Action line page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Katie Chandler Clarke Researcher: Dr Grace Revill Executive Producers: Kirsten Lass and Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

A lot of people claim they have trauma. But what is trauma? And when does it become PTSD? Kimberley is joined by clinical psychologist Dr Ron Dodzro to explore a term that's often misused and misunderstood. And together they discuss what we can do about it. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is: complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us, but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Action line page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer and researcher: Dr Samara Linton Assistant Producer: Katie Chandler Clarke Executive Producers: Kirsten Lass and Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Kimberley and her guest, clinical psychologist Dr Anton Barnwell, talk about how men can find it challenging to make authentic connections with other men. How can men build better friendships? Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Katie Chandler Clarke Researcher: Grace Revill Executive Producers: Kirsten Lass and Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Do you zone out? Does your mind wander? Together with daydreaming, they are all part of the human experience. But for some, these feelings of disconnection from ourselves and the world around us can go much further. Kimberley is joined by psychotherapist Zöe Ross to explore what dissociation is, how it can affect us, and where we can find support. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is: complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us, but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Action line page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production: Producer and researcher: Dr Samara Linton Assistant Producer: Katie Chandler Clarke Executive Producers: Kirsten Lass and Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Are you securely attached or is your attachment style avoidant, anxious or disorganised? In the third episode exploring how these patterns of behaviour show up in our relationships, Kimberley and her guest, clinical psychologist Dr Fatoumata Jatta, look at how we can learn to manage disorganised (or fearful-avoidant) attachment. You can catch up with their other episodes in the Complex feed on BBC Sounds. Please email complex@bbc.co.uk if there’s anything you would like Kimberley to explore. We might use what you tell us in the show, but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for some of the issues discussed. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds: Producer: Katie Chandler Clarke Researcher: Dr Grace Revill Executive Producer: Kirsten Lass Science Editor: Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Around one in five UK adults say they don’t feel comfortable talking about sex with anyone, and research suggests women in straight relationships often find it easier to talk about sex with friends than with their partners. Kimberley is joined by psychotherapist Sarah Harness to explore why sexual communication is so difficult, the part shame plays in keeping us silent, how the orgasm gap and desire discrepancy affect relationships, and practical ways to start talking about sex with honesty, curiosity and care. This episode contains explicit discussion of sexual content. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Katie Chandler Clarke Assistant Producer / Research: Samara Linton Executive Producers: Rami Tzabar and Kirsten Lass Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Studio Engineer: Matt Hua Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Kimberley and her guest psychotherapist Jennifer Cox explore why we get jealous, what jealousy is trying to tell us, and how to stop it damaging our relationships. They discuss where jealousy comes from, why it's a normal human emotion, when it becomes unhealthy, and practical ways to respond to it with curiosity rather than shame. Kimberley Wilson, a chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that's out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to share insight and valuable tips with the listeners. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is: complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us, but we will do so anonymously. If you don't want your email to be included in the podcast, then please make that clear in your email. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Action Line page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Katie Chandler Clarke Executive Producers: Kirsten Lass and Rami Tzabar Researcher: Dr Grace Revill Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey

Porn misuse is rising, with therapists reporting a significant increase in clients seeking help. Kimberley is joined by psychoanalytic and forensic psychotherapist, Dr. Stuart Stevenson. Together, they explore when pornography use becomes problematic, how its content can become normalised and can impact relationship expectations, and what we can do to find a route towards a healthier mindset. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Rami Tzabar Assistant Producer: Katie Chandler Clarke Research: Dr Grace Revill Executive Producer: Kirsten Lass Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Kimberley and her guest, psychotherapist Dr Charlotte Cooper, explore why we mask our authentic selves, hiding our true identities from society, and what we can do about it. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Kirsten Lass Assistant Producer and researcher: Samara Linton Executive Producer: Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Kimberley and Russell Kane – successful comedian and podcaster – explore what it’s like to be an outsider. He believes outsiders should recognise their own strength and says organisations should be bringing the outsider in. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Kirsten Lass Assistant Producer: Katie Chandler Clarke Researcher: Grace Revill Executive Producer: Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Kimberley and her guest, chartered counselling psychologist Dr Ollie Twizell, explore the complexity of personality characteristics and how important it is to understand yourself. Because when you do, it becomes easier to manage the environment you’re in and to work out what you need. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Kirsten Lass Assistant Producer: Katie Chandler Clarke Researcher: Grace Revill Science Editor: Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene

Kimberley and her guest, psychotherapist Zoe Ross, explore what a good relationship looks like and delve into the early warning signs of a bad relationship. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Rami Tzabar Assistant Producer and researcher: Samara Linton Executive Producer: Kirsten Lass Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Kimberley asks her guest, researcher and Chartered Psychologist Dr Ellie Buckley, why we get sensory overload and what we can do to look after ourselves. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Studio producer: Samara Linton Assistant Producer: Katie Chandler Clarke Researcher: Samara Linton Executive Producers: Kirsten Lass and Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Is a 'cringe' a day good for you? Kimberley and her guest, psychotherapist Jennifer Cox, take a good, hard look at embarrassment and work out how we can manage those blushing moments better. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Kirsten Lass Assistant Producer: Katie Chandler Clarke Researcher: Grace Revill Science Editor: Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Chris van Tulleken – doctor, writer and award-winning broadcaster, asks Kimberley to help him deal with the procrastination he struggles with. How can he tackle it? And is it really procrastination? Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Kirsten Lass Assistant Producer: Katie Chandler Clarke Researcher: Grace Revill Science Editor: Rami Tzabar Executive Producer: Jo Rowntree Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

In the psychology podcast, Kimberley asks her guest, clinical psychologist Dr Kirren Schnack (also known as @drkirren on social media), what health anxiety really means, why people struggle with it, and what ways there are to manage it. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Katie Chandler Clarke Researcher: Grace Revill Executive Producers: Kirsten Lass and Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Everyone seems to recommend a bit of self-compassion when dealing with any problem. But what does that even mean? Kimberley meets CBT therapist Joshua Munn, who has lived experience of both ADHD and OCD, and he tells her how important it is to show compassion to oneself and how he learned to do it. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health to help create more self-awareness and understanding. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to join her and together they share insight and valuable tips. You can get in touch if there’s anything you would like Kimberley to explore. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us in the show, but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Claire Justin Assistant Producer and Researcher: Samara Linton Executive Producers: Kirsten Lass and Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Kimberley asks her guest, clinical psychologist Dr Fatoumata Jatta, to clarify what boundaries are. Together they explore how we can create and set our boundaries more clearly (and how we can hold them when other people push back). Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Kirsten Lass Assistant Producer: Maia Miller-Lewis Researcher: Grace Revill Executive Producer and Science Editor: Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Kimberley asks her guest, clinical psychologist Dr Trudi Edginton, what we can do when our minds are overstimulated. Understanding the point at which we feel too busy and too stressed is the key to learning how to manage ourselves better. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Claire Justin Assistant Producer and researcher: Samara Linton Executive Producers: Kirsten Lass and Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

Kimberley asks her guest, clinical psychologist Dr Anton Barnwell, how we can believe we’re good enough. He grew up believing he wasn’t but has learned how to manage his own response to himself. Kimberley Wilson, chartered psychologist, is on a mission to sift through all the information and misinformation that’s out there around our mental health. She invites expert guests - trained psychologists, psychiatrists and psychotherapists - to help her share insight and some valuable tips. You can get in touch with the show. The email address is complex@bbc.co.uk . We might use what you tell us but we will do so anonymously. If you don’t want your email to be included in the podcast, then please remember to let us know. Kimberley is not able to answer emails personally. If you are concerned you have a medical or mental health issue, then please contact your GP or seek expert help. Please also take a look on the BBC Actionline page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/actionline/ where you can find details of organisations offering information and support for common issues. Complex is a Loftus Media production for BBC Sounds. Producer: Claire Justin Assistant Producer and researcher: Samara Linton Executive Producer: Kirsten Lass Science Editor: Rami Tzabar Tech Producer: Reuben Huxtable Sound Designer: Ruth Rainey Digital Lead: Richard Berry Podcast artwork photography: Darren Skene And for BBC Sounds: Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts