Icons and Ideas with Peter Mallouk

What if achieving everything you want still doesn’t give you the life you’re looking for? "Inner Excellence" author and former professional baseball player Jim Murphy joins Creative Planning President and CEO Peter Mallouk on Icons and Ideas to explore why achievement, confidence, money and status alone don’t create fulfillment and what it really takes to perform at your best under pressure. Jim shares the remarkable journey that took him from professional baseball and the Chicago Cubs organization to giving away most of what he owned and moving to the Arizona desert in search of a greater purpose. He explains the principles behind “Inner Excellence,” including why presence can be more powerful than confidence, how our attachment to possessions, achievements, looks, money and status can hold us back and why the goals we chase may not be what we truly want. Jim also reflects on the unexpected moment Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver A.J. Brown was seen reading "Inner Excellence" during an NFL playoff game, sending a book that had struggled for 16 years into the spotlight. Through it all, Jim challenges high achievers to redefine success, pursue a fullness of life and devote themselves to something greater than themselves. What You’ll Learn ✅ Why presence and belief can be more powerful than confidence under pressure ✅ How chasing possessions, achievements, looks, money and status can create an illusion of success ✅ What Jim Murphy learned from 16 years of persistence before "Inner Excellence" became a breakout success ✅ Why pursuing purpose, unconditional love and a fullness of life can matter more than conventional achievements Sponsored By This episode is brought to you by Apollo. Private markets have evolved, and public markets capture only part of the opportunity. Apollo brings more than 35 years of experience across the breadth of private markets. Learn more at Apollo.com/ASPM Timestamps (00:00) Jim Murphy on why success isn’t enough (01:50) Leaving everything behind for the Arizona desert (04:12) How elite athletes perform under extreme pressure (06:37) The Three Worlds model and the problem with chasing results (08:59) How A.J. Brown changed Inner Excellence overnight (12:23) PALMS: possessions, achievements, looks, money, and status (14:06) Why the heart decides and the mind follows (16:05) Why presence and belief can be more powerful than confidence (19:15) Why even the biggest goals may be too small (21:22) Selflessness, fear, love, and finding a purpose beyond yourself Key Takeaways 🔹 Success isn’t necessarily fulfillment. Jim believes people often pursue money, status, championships and recognition because of what they think those achievements will make them feel rather than because of the achievements themselves. 🔹 Presence can be more powerful than confidence. Confidence is the feeling that you can accomplish something. Jim describes belief as knowing you’ll be okay regardless of the outcome, while presence removes attachment to the past and future. 🔹 Focus on what you can control. The four daily goals of "Inner Excellence" are to give your best today, be present, be grateful, and focus on your routines and what you can control. 🔹 Purpose goes beyond personal achievement. Jim argues that complete freedom and material success can still leave people feeling empty. He believes a powerful vision and purpose beyond yourself can create a deeper sense of being fully alive. About Jim Murphy #1 New York Times bestselling author Jim Murphy is a Performance Coach to some of the best athletes and leaders in the world. He began his career as a professional baseball player in the Chicago Cubs organization. After experiencing vision issues that ended his playing career, Murphy coached with the Texas Rangers as well as the South African Olympic baseball team. He has worked with some of the world’s best golfers, including world champions, FedEx Cup champions, and world #1s. The majority of Murphy’s clients have the best year of their careers in their first year working with him. In addition to coaching professional athletes and executives, Murphy leads "Inner Excellence" offsite retreats around the globe. He’s the president of the "Inner Excellence" Freedom Project, whose mission is to build communities to alleviate spiritual and physical poverty around the world. Website: Jim Murphy "Inner Excellence" https://innerexcellence.com/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/innerexcellence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/innerexcellencejimmurphy/ Connect With Peter Mallouk Website: Peter Mallouk - President & CEO - Creative Planning X (Twitter): @PeterMallouk LinkedIn: Peter Mallouk on LinkedIn Instagram: @peter_mallouk Facebook: Official Peter Mallouk Follow Creative Planning X (Twitter): @CPIWealth LinkedIn: Creative Planning on LinkedIn Instagram: @creativeplanning_llc Facebook: Creative Planning Facebook Page Browse More Icons and Ideas Episodes YouTube Playlist: Watch the Full Icons and Ideas Playlist Official Website: Icons and Ideas Podcast Check Out Peter’s Other Podcasts Signal or Noise: Watch Signal or Noise on YouTube Down The Middle: Listen to Down The Middle on Spotify

What does the future of investing look like as artificial intelligence, private markets and speculation reshape finance? Vanguard CEO Salim Ramji joins Creative Planning President and CEO Peter Mallouk on Icons and Ideas to discuss the principles that have made Vanguard one of the most influential investment firms in the world and how those principles are evolving for the next generation of investors. Salim also shares why Vanguard is acquiring Altruist and how the move could expand access to high-quality financial advice while empowering more independent advisors to serve more families. Salim shares how Vanguard is carrying forward Jack Bogle’s legacy of low-cost, diversified, long-term investing while expanding into areas including ETFs, fixed income, private markets and financial advice. He and Peter also explore the growing divide between investing and speculation, Vanguard’s approach to Bitcoin and prediction markets, and why AI could dramatically expand access to high-quality financial advice. Salim also reflects on leadership, Vanguard’s unique culture and the simple advice that changed the trajectory of his career. What You’ll Learn ✅ Why Vanguard continues to prioritize low-cost, diversified and long-term investing ✅ How Salim Ramji thinks about private markets, Bitcoin and the rise of speculative investing ✅ Why AI could transform financial advice and expand access for millions of Americans ✅ How Jack Bogle’s philosophy continues to influence Vanguard’s strategy and culture This episode is brought to you by Blackstone . With proven performance for over 40 years, Blackstone’s investment strategies across private equity, real estate, credit and infrastructure are designed to help investors build wealth by diversifying portfolios beyond stocks and bonds. Learn more at Blackstone.com . Timestamps (00:00) The leadership advice that changed Salim Ramji’s career (01:49) Vanguard announces its acquisition of Altruist (07:00) Jack Bogle’s legacy and the evolution of Vanguard (09:55) The investing principles Vanguard refuses to change (15:38) Becoming the first outsider to lead Vanguard (21:16) Meme stocks and the line between investing and gambling (23:21) Vanguard’s position on Bitcoin and speculative investing (27:47) Why Vanguard is moving into private markets (32:18) Vanguard’s influence on corporate America (36:01) How AI could transform financial advice (45:06) Jack Bogle, mentorship, and the future of leadership Key Takeaways 🔹 Vanguard’s products may evolve, but its core principles of low costs, diversification and long-term investing remain central to the firm’s philosophy. 🔹 Salim warns that meme stocks, prediction markets and other forms of speculation risk blurring the important distinction between investing and gambling. 🔹 Private markets could play a role in certain investor portfolios, but Salim believes greater transparency and more client-friendly fees are essential. 🔹 AI has the potential to complement human financial advisors while expanding access to financial advice for Americans who currently can’t afford or access an advisor. About Salim Ramji Salim Ramji is Chief Executive Officer of Vanguard and a member of the firm’s board of directors, leading 20,000 crew dedicated to giving all investors the best chance for investment success. Founded in 1975, Vanguard provides investments, advice and retirement services to more than 50 million individual investors around the world through direct investing, workplace plans and financial intermediaries. Throughout his career, Salim has worked to make investing more accessible and empower investors to prepare for a secure retirement. Prior to joining Vanguard in July 2024, he spent 30 years in leadership roles spanning investments, capital markets and wealth management. Salim holds a bachelor’s degree in economics and politics from the University of Toronto and an M.A. in law from Cambridge University. He’s also a CFA® charterholder. 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What does it actually mean to be wealthy? Bestselling author Morgan Housel joins Peter Mallouk to explore why building wealth has less to do with intelligence and more to do with behavior, independence and understanding what money is really for. Morgan shares the thinking behind “The Psychology of Money,” why every U.S. publisher initially rejected the book, and the stories that shaped his approach to money and investing. He explains why financial success is often driven by behavior rather than knowledge, why getting rich and staying rich require different skills, and why some of the best financial decisions can’t be measured on a spreadsheet. Morgan addresses the difference between being rich and being wealthy, raising kids with healthy money habits, taking risks, dealing with success and defining "enough" in his refreshingly human perspective on building wealth and living a meaningful life. What You'll Learn in This Episode ✅ Why financial behavior can matter more than intelligence when building long-term wealth ✅ The difference between being rich and being truly wealthy and why Morgan defines wealth through independence ✅ Why the mathematically "best" financial decision isn't always the best decision for your life ✅ How risk, expectations, happiness and knowing when you have "enough" can shape financial success This episode is brought to you by Avantis Investors. Broad diversification and thoughtful implementation. Daily oversight and low fees. You don’t have to choose. Start saying “and.” Talk to your advisor about Avantis and visit avantisinvestors.com . Timestamps (00:00) “The Psychology of Money”, Wealth and What Actually Makes You Rich (01:33) Why Morgan Housel's writing resonates around the world (06:39) Why behavior matters more than intelligence with money (13:49) Why we've “solved” investing but not investor behaviors (18:38) The avalanche tragedy that changed Morgan's view of risk (26:01) Why wealthy people can still lose everything (30:47) The difference between being rich and wealthy (36:05) Why Morgan paid off a low-interest mortgage (40:26) How successful investors think about market volatility (47:51) Teaching kids healthy money habits Key Takeaways 🔹Financial success is behavioral. Intelligence and financial knowledge matter, but how you behave with money can ultimately matter even more. 🔹 Wealth is about independence. Morgan distinguishes being rich from being wealthy by the freedom your financial resources give you over your time and decisions. 🔹 Not every return belongs in a spreadsheet. Peace of mind, stability, flexibility and sleeping well at night can have tremendous value even when they aren't mathematically optimal. 🔹 Lead by example with money. When teaching children about finances, Morgan believes everyday behavior can have more influence than lectures about what they should or shouldn't do. About Morgan Housel Morgan Housel is the New York Times Bestselling author of The Psychology of Money , The Art of Spending Money , and Same As Ever. His books have sold over 12 million copies and have been translated into more than 60 languages. He is a two-time winner of the Best in Business Award from the Society of American Business Editors and Writers, and winner of the New York Times Sidney Award. MarketWatch named him one of the 50 most influential people in markets. He's a partner at The Collaborative Fund and serves on the board of directors at Markel. Website: https://www.morganhousel.com/ X: https://x.com/morganhousel YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Morgan-Housel LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/morgan-housel-5b473821 Sponsored By This episode is brought to you by Avantis Investors. With strategies designed around broad diversification, thoughtful implementation, daily oversight and low fees, Avantis helps investors say “and” instead of “or.” Talk to your advisor about Avantis and visit avantisinvestors.com . This episode includes an advertisement by the sponsor. The advertisement does not constitute or imply an endorsement, recommendation or affiliation between the sponsor and Creative Planning. Connect with Peter Mallouk Website: Peter Mallouk - President & CEO - Creative Planning X (Twitter): @PeterMallouk LinkedIn: Peter Mallouk on LinkedIn Instagram: @peter_mallouk Facebook: Official Peter Mallouk Follow Creative Planning X (Twitter): @CPIWealth LinkedIn: Creative Planning on LinkedIn Instagram: @creativeplanning_llc Facebook: Creative Planning Facebook Page Browse More Icons and Ideas Episodes YouTube Playlist: Watch the Full Icons and Ideas Playlist Official Website: Icons and Ideas Podcast Check Out Peter’s Other Podcasts Signal or Noise: Watch Signal or Noise on YouTube Down The Middle: Listen to Down The Middle on Spotify

What does great leadership look like in today's rapidly changing world? Harvey Schwartz believes it begins with opportunity, resilience, continuous learning and investing in people. On Icons and Ideas , Peter Mallouk sits down with Harvey Schwartz, CEO of Carlyle, to discuss leadership, private markets, investing, artificial intelligence and the mindset needed to succeed in uncertain times. Harvey shares his journey from a challenging childhood to leading one of the world's largest investment firms. He reflects on the mentors and opportunities that shaped his career, lessons from Goldman Sachs and why culture, trust and disciplined decision-making drive long-term success. Peter and Harvey also explore private equity, AI, global markets and the future of investing, offering practical insights for leaders, entrepreneurs, investors and anyone looking to build resilience and lead with purpose. The following episode contains discussions about mental health and suicide. Listener discretion is advised. Please visit nami.org for more information or to connect with a mental health professional. What You'll Learn ✅ The leadership lessons that helped Harvey Schwartz become CEO of Carlyle ✅ Why resilience, mentorship and continuous learning are essential for leadership ✅ How private markets, private equity and AI are reshaping the future of investing ✅ The leadership habits that help organizations succeed during uncertainty This episode is brought to you by State Street Select Sector SPDR ETFs. Invest where you see opportunity with the 11 Select Sector SPDR ETFs. StateStreet.com Timestamps (00:00) Leadership, Resilience and the Future of Private Markets (01:48) Growing up with parents battling mental illness (05:55) The mentors and opportunities that shaped Harvey's life (13:59) Mental health, resilience and overcoming adversity (18:38) Harvey's journey from Wall Street to CEO of Carlyle (28:17) The future of private markets and investing (33:42) Private credit, diversification and long-term investing (42:11) Geopolitics, national security and global markets (44:19) Inflation, interest rates and portfolio strategy (49:56) Leadership lessons and the future of private capital Key Takeaways 🔹 Leadership isn't about having all the answers. It's about building trust, making thoughtful decisions and learning through adversity. 🔹 Private markets continue to create opportunities for investors seeking diversification, innovation and long-term value. 🔹 Artificial intelligence will transform business, but human judgment, culture and leadership will remain competitive advantages. 🔹 The most successful leaders embrace lifelong learning, seek mentorship and invest in developing great teams. About the Guest Harvey Schwartz is the Chief Executive Officer and a member of the Board of Directors at Carlyle, one of the world's leading global investment firms. Before joining Carlyle in 2023, he spent more than 20 years at Goldman Sachs, where he served as President and Co-Chief Operating Officer, Chief Financial Officer and Global Co-Head of the Securities Division. Harvey is also an advocate for mental health research and leadership development through his work with One Mind. He earned his BA from Rutgers University and his MBA from Columbia University. Carlyle: carlyle.com LinkedIn: LinkedIn Harvey Schwartz Sponsored By: This episode is brought to you by State Street Select Sector SPDR ETFs. Invest where you see opportunity with the 11 Select Sector SPDR ETFs. StateStreet.com This episode includes an advertisement by the sponsor. The advertisement does not constitute or imply an endorsement, recommendation or affiliation between the sponsor and Creative Planning. Connect with Peter Mallouk Website: Peter Mallouk - President & CEO - Creative Planning X (Twitter): @PeterMallouk LinkedIn: Peter Mallouk on LinkedIn Instagram: @peter_mallouk Facebook: Official Peter Mallouk Follow Creative Planning X (Twitter): @CPIWealth LinkedIn: Creative Planning on LinkedIn Instagram: @creativeplanning_llc Facebook: Creative Planning Facebook Page Browse More Icons and Ideas Episodes YouTube Playlist: Watch the Full Icons and Ideas Playlist Official Website: Icons and Ideas Podcast Check Out Peter’s Other Podcasts Signal or Noise: Watch Signal or Noise on YouTube Down The Middle: Listen to Down The Middle on Spotify

What do world leaders, celebrities, activists and ordinary people reveal when they think no one is watching? Legendary photographer Platon joins Peter Mallouk for a remarkable conversation about trust, vulnerability, leadership and the human stories behind some of the most iconic portraits ever captured. Having photographed presidents, prime ministers, Nobel Peace Prize winners, business leaders, artists and activists around the world, Platon explains how authentic human connection allows him to reveal the real person behind power. From photographing Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and Jimmy Carter to documenting human rights defenders in conflict zones, Platon shares extraordinary stories that redefine leadership, courage, curiosity and empathy. More than a conversation about photography, this episode explores why curiosity matters, how vulnerability creates trust and what business leaders can learn about bringing people together in an increasingly divided world. Whether you're a leader, entrepreneur, creative professional, photographer, or simply fascinated by human behavior, this episode offers timeless lessons on communication, influence and authentic connection. What You'll Learn in This Episode: ✅ How Platon's Greek village childhood and dyslexia shaped his fearless approach to people ✅ What Clinton, Obama, Bush, Trump and Putin are really like behind closed doors ✅ The technique Platon uses to disarm even the most powerful people in the world ✅ Why business leaders, not politicians, are the real champions of our time This episode includes a paid advertisement purchased by a sponsor for placement on a Creative Planning podcast. The advertisement does not constitute or imply an endorsement, recommendation or affiliation between the sponsor and Creative Planning Timestamps (00:00) Platon on growing up between London and a Greek village (02:20) Dyslexia, running away from school and the corridor of no man's land (05:30) Art school, contour drawing and discovering photography (10:10) How a camera changes the dynamic in any room (14:40) JFK Jr., George Magazine and the deal that launched a career (19:48) Photographing President Clinton — and the moment that divided a nation (28:34) Politics as the new religion and the crisis of polarization (31:36) Why business leaders are the champions of our time (33:39) Dustin Hoffman, 200 white roses and people power (39:37) Photographing Putin — intimidation, the Beatles and a subliminal message (45:20) Egypt, the Arab Spring and building a studio in Tahrir Square (49:27) The Little Rock Nine and the photograph that hangs in the Smithsonian (52:47) Clinton, Obama, Bush, Carter and Trump — the presidents compared (1:02:20) The very first shoot: Anthony Hopkins, a panic attack and the lesson that changed everything Key Takeaways 💎 True human connection requires going first — with honesty, openness and courage — regardless of who’s in the room. 💎 Power is a social construct, and the ability to see through it is what allows Platon to capture truth on film. 💎 Vulnerability isn’t weakness — it’s the only currency that creates real trust between people. 💎 Business leaders, not politicians, are the force most capable of pulling a polarized society back together. About the Guest Platon is one of the world's most celebrated portrait photographers, known for his iconic images of presidents, world leaders, activists and cultural figures. Born in London and raised between England and a small Greek village, Platon studied at Central Saint Martins before being discovered by John F. Kennedy Jr. for George Magazine. His work has appeared on the covers of TIME, The New Yorker, Esquire and Rolling Stone. His portrait of Putin is classified as extremist material in Russia — and sits on Putin's desk. He’s a passionate advocate for human rights, authentic connection and the power of curiosity over judgment. Connect With Platon Instagram: @platonphoto Website: platonphoto.com RESOURCES Follow Peter on his social media accounts: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook Follow Creative Planning’s social media accounts: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook Browse through all our episodes here . Like the Icons and Ideas podcast? Check out Peter’s other podcasts! Signal or Noise Down the Middle

Former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice joins Peter Mallouk to discuss leadership, global politics, China, Russia, NATO, 9/11, artificial intelligence and the future of world power. On this episode of Icons and Ideas, Condoleezza Rice, the 66th U.S. Secretary of State and current Tad and Dianne Taube Director of the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, shares how growing up during the Civil Rights Movement shaped her leadership philosophy and reflects on the high-pressure decisions made during 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan and the evolving Russia-Ukraine conflict. The conversation also explores globalization, China’s rise, artificial intelligence, democracy and the future of international relations in a rapidly changing world. What You Will Learn in This Episode: ✅ How Secretary Condoleezza Rice’s childhood in segregated Birmingham shaped her leadership mindset ✅ The behind-the-scenes decisions made during the first hours of 9/11 ✅ Why China, Russia, NATO and global power dynamics are rapidly changing ✅ How globalization, AI, and populism are reshaping the future economy and workforce This episode is brought to you by BlackRock. What if your portfolio could do more than invest for returns — what if it could help you keep more of what you earn? BlackRock’s Aperio tax-managed solutions are designed to help do just that. Learn more . Timestamps (00:00) Secretary Condoleezza Rice on growing up in segregated Birmingham (02:20) Faith, family, education, and overcoming adversity (03:38) Inside the first moments of the 9/11 attacks (07:48) Lessons learned from 9/11 and Homeland Security (09:20) Secretary Condoleezza Rice reflects on Iraq and weapons of mass destruction (12:18) Vladimir Putin, NATO, and the Russia-Ukraine conflict (17:13) Trump, Putin, and the Russia-Ukraine War: Condoleezza Rice on global conflict, NATO tensions, and why Putin refuses to back down (19:14) National security, intelligence, and understanding global threats (21:05) Leadership as a Black woman in government and diplomacy (26:50) Israel, Palestine, and the challenges of peace negotiations (27:25) China, globalization, and the future of world power (35:20) Globalization, populism, and the changing world order (39:54) Artificial intelligence, jobs, and the future workforce (40:10) President George W. Bush and leadership during crisis Key Takeaways 💎 Secretary Condoleezza Rice believes leadership starts with resilience, personal responsibility and refusing to see yourself as limited by circumstances. 💎 The aftermath of 9/11 fundamentally changed America’s national security infrastructure, intelligence coordination and global strategy. 💎 China’s rise, Russia’s aggression and the breakdown of globalization are reshaping international politics and economic systems. 💎 Rice believes the future of leadership will require balancing military strength, innovation, diplomacy and global cooperation. This episode includes a paid advertisement purchased by a sponsor for placement on a Creative Planning podcast. The advertisement does not constitute or imply an endorsement, recommendation or affiliation between the sponsor and Creative Planning. About the Guest Condoleezza Rice, the 66th U.S. Secretary of State and current Tad and Dianne Taube Director of the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, is a political scientist, diplomat, professor and author who previously served as both United States Secretary of State and National Security Advisor under President George W. Bush. With decades of experience in foreign policy, global security, democracy and international relations, she remains one of the most influential voices in global leadership and world affairs. Connect with Condoleezza Rice LinkedIn: Condoleezza Rice on LinkedIn Condoleezza Rice at Hoover Institution Instagram: @condoleezzarice Condoleezza Rice on Facebook Resources & Links Sponsored By: This episode is brought to you by BlackRock. What if your portfolio could do more than invest for returns — what if it could help you keep more of what you earn? BlackRock’s Aperio tax-managed solutions are designed to help do just that. Learn more . Connect with Peter Mallouk • X (Twitter): @PeterMallouk • LinkedIn: Peter Mallouk on LinkedIn • Instagram: @peter_mallouk • Facebook: Official Peter Mallouk Follow Creative Planning • X (Twitter): @CPIWealth • Creative Planning on LinkedIn • Instagram: @creativeplanning_llc • Creative Planning Facebook Page Browse More Icons and Ideas Episodes • Watch the Full Icons and Ideas Playlist • Official Website: Icons and Ideas Podcast Check Out Peter’s Other Podcasts • Watch Signal or Noise on YouTube • Listen to Down The Middle on Spotify

How are artificial intelligence, private markets and private credit changing the future of investing? They’re transforming how investors build wealth, diversify portfolios and access new opportunities beyond traditional public markets. Franklin Templeton CEO Jenny Johnson joins Peter Mallouk to explain how AI is reshaping financial services, why private equity and private credit are becoming essential portfolio tools, and what investors need to know about the future of wealth management. Jenny shares her journey from the Franklin Templeton mail room to leading one of the world's largest asset managers, overseeing $1.7 trillion in assets. She explains how AI, blockchain, tokenization and technological innovation are changing investing, why leadership and culture matter more than ever, and how investors can think differently about public and private markets. What You'll Learn in This Episode ✅ Why AI, blockchain and tokenization are transforming investing and financial services ✅ How private equity and private credit are reshaping modern investment portfolios ✅ The leadership lessons Jenny learned while leading a $1.7 trillion asset manager ✅ Why innovation, adaptability and strong culture are becoming competitive advantages in business Visit PeterMallouk.com for more conversations with world-class leaders, authors and experts on investing, leadership and living a meaningful life. Timestamps (00:00) AI, private markets, and the future of investing (01:28) From the mailroom to CEO (03:05) Leadership lessons and managing change (05:52) Why AI is moving faster than anyone expected (09:03) The rise of private markets (13:16) Should everyday investors own private equity? (16:58) Private credit, AI, and market opportunities (23:45) AI, blockchain, tokenization, and the future (25:46) Growing Franklin Templeton through acquisitions (31:10) Developing future leaders (35:30) Jenny’s vision for Franklin Templeton Key Takeaways 🔹 Artificial intelligence will transform investing, productivity and financial services, but organizations must adapt quickly to keep pace. 🔹 Private equity and private credit provide investors with access to opportunities that increasingly exist outside the public markets. 🔹 Great leadership is built on strong teams, continuous learning, adaptability and a willingness to embrace change. 🔹 Technology, innovation and client-first thinking will shape the next generation of successful businesses. About Jenny Johnson Jenny Johnson is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Franklin Templeton, a global investment management firm overseeing approximately $1.7 trillion in assets. After beginning her career in the company's mail room and working across nearly every area of the business, she now leads one of the world's largest asset managers. Johnson is widely recognized for her expertise in leadership, artificial intelligence, private markets, technology and innovation and has been named one of the World's Most Powerful Women by Forbes. Website: https://www.franklintempleton.com/profiles/jenny-johnson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennyjohnsonfranklintempleton/ RESOURCES Follow Peter on his social media accounts: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook Follow Creative Planning’s social media accounts: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook Browse through all our episodes here . Like the Icons and Ideas podcast? Check out Peter’s other podcasts! Signal or Noise Down the Middle

How will AI, cryptocurrency and the next generation of investors reshape the future of finance? Charles Schwab CEO Rick Wurster joins Peter Mallouk to discuss the biggest trends transforming investing, wealth management and financial services. Rick shares why convenience has become one of the most powerful forces in investing, how younger investors are changing the industry, how Charles Schwab is approaching Bitcoin, Ethereum, stablecoins and blockchain technology, and why AI will enhance financial advisors instead of replacing them. He also explains digital assets, the future of prediction markets and the innovations Schwab is making to help millions of investors build better financial futures. Whether you are an investor, a financial advisor, an entrepreneur or simply curious about where money and technology are heading, this conversation offers practical insights from the CEO of one of the world's largest financial services firms. What You'll Learn in This Episode ✅ Why AI will transform investing and financial advice without replacing human advisors ✅ Charles Schwab's strategy for Bitcoin, Ethereum, stablecoins and digital assets ✅ How Gen Z investors are changing investing, wealth management and financial markets ✅ Why convenience, innovation and client-first thinking are shaping the future of financial services Visit PeterMallouk.com for more conversations with world-class leaders, authors and experts on investing, leadership and living a meaningful life. Timestamps (00:00) Crypto, AI, and the shifts impacting how we invest (00:44) Leading Schwab and putting clients first (02:21) Four trends reshaping investing (05:34) Prediction markets explained (08:22) Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Schwab’s crypto strategy (11:30) Why Schwab raised advisor referral minimums (15:33) How Charles Schwab became an industry leader (18:04) Blockchain, stablecoins, and the future of money (19:36) Why Gen Z is changing investing (22:00) AI, financial advisors, and the future of wealth management (25:57) What’s next for Charles Schwab Key Takeaways 🔹 AI will make financial advice more efficient, but trust, relationships and human judgment will remain essential. 🔹 Digital assets are becoming an important part of the investing landscape, even as their long-term future remains uncertain. 🔹 Younger investors are entering the markets earlier than ever, driving innovation across financial services. 🔹 Firms that simplify investing while putting clients first will continue to lead the future of wealth management. About Rick Wurster Rick Wurster is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Charles Schwab, one of the world's largest financial services firms, serving more than 30 million client accounts. Since becoming CEO, he has focused on expanding innovation, improving the client experience, embracing artificial intelligence and preparing Schwab for the future of digital assets, wealth management and financial advice. Before becoming CEO, Rick held numerous leadership roles across Schwab's investment, trading and wealth management businesses. Website: https://www.aboutschwab.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rickwurster/ RESOURCES Follow Peter on his social media accounts: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook Follow Creative Planning’s social media accounts: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook Browse through all our episodes here . Like the Icons and Ideas podcast? Check out Peter’s other podcasts! Signal or Noise Down the Middle

How will artificial intelligence reshape investing, software, careers and the global economy? Vista Equity Partners Founder Robert F. Smith joins Peter Mallouk for a masterclass on AI, enterprise software, private equity and the future of business. As one of the world's leading technology investors, Robert explains why AI is creating the biggest transformation since the internet, how enterprise software companies will evolve, what investors are getting wrong about AI and the skills professionals need to thrive in a rapidly changing economy. Whether you are an investor, an entrepreneur, a business leader or simply trying to understand what's next, this episode delivers practical insights into where technology, capital and innovation are heading. What You'll Learn in This Episode ✅ Why AI is transforming enterprise software, investing and business faster than ever before ✅ How private equity firms evaluate technology companies in the age of artificial intelligence ✅ The skills professionals need to stay valuable as AI changes the workforce ✅ Why innovation, discipline and continuous learning are essential for long-term success Visit PeterMallouk.com for more conversations with world-class leaders, authors and experts on investing, leadership and living a meaningful life. Timestamps (00:00) Investing and the biggest tech shift since the internet (01:26) From engineer to Founder of Vista Equity Partners (06:08) The biggest AI trends shaping business today (11:11) Why enterprise software isn't disappearing (19:00) How AI will change jobs and careers (24:56) Investing through technological disruption (33:26) AI, market volatility and the future of investing (39:23) The Morehouse College graduation gift that inspired millions (42:22) Philanthropy, optimism and creating lasting impact Key Takeaways 🔹 Enterprise software will evolve through AI rather than disappear, creating entirely new growth opportunities. 🔹 Professionals who learn to work alongside AI will have a significant advantage over those who resist it. 🔹 Successful investing requires adapting to technological change while maintaining disciplined, long-term thinking. 🔹 Optimism, continuous learning and intentional action remain some of the greatest competitive advantages in any career. About Robert F. Smith Robert F. Smith is the Founder, Chairman and CEO of Vista Equity Partners, one of the world's leading private equity firms focused exclusively on enterprise software, data and technology-enabled businesses. Widely recognized as one of the most influential investors in technology, Smith has helped transform hundreds of software companies while becoming a leading voice on artificial intelligence, innovation, business transformation and philanthropy. He is also known for paying off the student debt of the graduating class at Morehouse College, inspiring millions around the world. Website: https://robertsmith.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertfredericksmith/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAZjrIxOYbTgMVM1s7CjdEg Resources Creative Planning: http://creativeplanning.com Follow Peter on his social media accounts: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook Follow Creative Planning’s social media accounts: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook Browse through all our episodes here . Like the Icons and Ideas podcast? Check out Peter’s other podcasts! Signal or Noise Down the Middle

What separates extraordinary people from everyone else? Tony Robbins joins Peter Mallouk for a powerful conversation about mindset, emotional mastery, wealth, philanthropy, leadership, investing, AI and creating a life of lasting impact. Tony shares the life-changing experiences that shaped his mission, why emotions drive every decision we make, the beliefs that hold people back, and the strategies used by world-class investors and entrepreneurs. From building businesses and giving back to navigating artificial intelligence and preparing for the future, this episode is packed with practical wisdom for anyone looking to create more success, fulfillment and purpose. What You'll Learn in This Episode ✅ Why your beliefs, emotions and identity determine your success more than talent ✅ The investing principles Tony learned from Ray Dalio, Jack Bogle, Paul Tudor Jones and other financial legends ✅ How AI will reshape careers, business and the future of work ✅ The daily mindset shifts that create lasting happiness, wealth and fulfillment Visit PeterMallouk.com for more conversations with world-class leaders, authors and experts on investing, leadership and living a meaningful life. Timestamps (00:00) Success, money, AI and the mindset that changes everything (03:26) Childhood adversity and the beliefs that shaped Tony’s life (12:19) The mindset that transforms success and happiness (20:35) Why emotion drives every financial decision (23:22) Lessons from the world's greatest investors (44:28) AI, the future of work and staying relevant (54:34) The questions that shape your life (01:03:26) Stanford research on Tony's methods (01:10:03) The Time to Rise Summit and creating lasting change Key Takeaways 🔹 Your identity and beliefs influence every decision more than your circumstances. 🔹 Long-term wealth comes from smart asset allocation, disciplined investing and continuous learning. 🔹 AI won't simply replace jobs. People who learn to use AI will outperform those who ignore it. 🔹 Lasting fulfillment comes from contribution, gratitude, growth and creating value for others. About Tony Robbins Tony Robbins is a world-renowned entrepreneur, bestselling author, philanthropist, business strategist and peak performance expert. Over the past four decades, he has coached presidents, professional athletes, Fortune 500 executives, entrepreneurs, investors, entertainers and millions of people worldwide. Through his books, seminars and businesses, Tony has helped individuals improve their finances, health, relationships, leadership and personal growth while also providing billions of meals through his philanthropic initiatives. Website: https://www.tonyrobbins.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tonyrobbins/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TonyRobbins/ Resources Creative Planning: http://creativeplanning.com Follow Peter on his social media accounts: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook Follow Creative Planning’s social media accounts: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook Browse through all our episodes here . Like the Icons and Ideas podcast? Check out Peter’s other podcasts! Signal or Noise Down the Middle

Can happiness actually make you more successful? Bestselling author and happiness researcher Shawn Achor joins Peter Mallouk to reveal why happiness isn't the result of success but rather one of its greatest drivers. Backed by decades of research, Shawn explains how gratitude, meaningful relationships, purpose and simple daily habits can improve your mental health, increase resilience, strengthen leadership and even help you live longer. From overcoming depression and burnout to building stronger relationships, finding purpose and creating lasting happiness, this conversation offers practical strategies anyone can apply immediately to improve both life and work. What You'll Learn in This Episode ✅ Why happiness fuels success instead of following it ✅ The daily habits that improve mental health, resilience and well-being ✅ How gratitude, purpose and meaningful relationships transform your life ✅ Practical ways to overcome burnout, loneliness, anxiety and negative thinking Visit PeterMallouk.com for more conversations with world-class leaders, authors and experts on investing, leadership and living a meaningful life. Timestamps (00:00) Happiness, success, and what really matters (02:22) Faith, purpose, and the science of happiness (10:29) The #1 predictor of happiness and success (22:00) Why gratitude changes your brain (29:44) Shawn’s journey through depression (33:36) The daily habits that build lasting happiness (37:59) The biggest myths about success and happiness (48:45) Why anxiety, loneliness, and depression are rising (53:34) Can society become happier? Key Takeaways 🔹 Strong social connections are the single greatest predictor of long-term happiness and well-being. 🔹 Gratitude is a daily practice that reshapes how your brain experiences the world. 🔹 Happiness improves performance, decision-making, leadership, health and resilience. 🔹 Small, consistent habits repeated over time create meaningful and lasting positive change. About Shawn Achor Shawn Achor is a bestselling author, a speaker and one of the world's leading researchers on positive psychology and happiness. His work has been featured globally for demonstrating how optimism, gratitude, purpose and social connection improve performance, leadership, mental health and long-term success. Through decades of research, Shawn has helped organizations, schools, healthcare systems and business leaders build happier and more resilient lives. Website: https://www.shawnachor.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawnachor/ RESOURCES Follow Peter on his social media accounts: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook Follow Creative Planning’s social media accounts: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook Browse through all our episodes here : Like the Icons and Ideas podcast? Check out Peter’s other podcasts! Signal or Noise Down the Middle

What does the future hold for stocks, inflation, interest rates and the U.S. economy? Legendary economist Jeremy Siegel, author of “Stocks for the Long Run,” joins Peter Mallouk to explain why long-term investing continues to outperform, what today's investors misunderstand about inflation and why cybersecurity may be a bigger threat than government debt. From the lasting impact of COVID-era stimulus and rising deficits to AI, tariffs, Bitcoin, private markets and America's economic future, this conversation delivers timeless investing principles backed by decades of research. Whether you are a new investor, a financial professional or a business owner or simply trying to build long-term wealth. This episode offers practical insights to help you think beyond today's headlines and invest with confidence. What You'll Learn in This Episode ✅ Why stocks remain the best long-term investment despite short-term volatility ✅ How inflation, interest rates and government spending impact your portfolio ✅ Jeremy Siegel's outlook on AI, Bitcoin, tariffs, private markets and the U.S. economy ✅ Why cybersecurity may be the biggest financial risk facing America Visit PeterMallouk.com for more conversations with world-class leaders, authors and experts on investing, leadership and living a meaningful life. Timestamps 00:00 Inflation, tariffs and America's future 02:09 Why “Stocks for the Long Run” became an investing classic 06:21 Inflation, bonds and lessons from COVID 15:39 Government debt and the bond market outlook 21:10 The biggest threats to America's economy 27:11 Tariffs, trade and Trump's economic policies 35:00 Bitcoin, banking and the future of money 39:22 Private markets, innovation and America's future Key Takeaways 🔹 Long-term investors benefit from owning productive businesses instead of trying to predict short-term market movements. 🔹 Inflation creates challenges for bonds, but quality businesses have historically provided better long-term protection. 🔹 AI has the potential to improve productivity and strengthen economic growth over time. 🔹 Innovation, entrepreneurship and free markets remain some of America's greatest long-term competitive advantages. About Jeremy Siegel Jeremy Siegel is one of the world's leading economists and investment experts. A longtime professor at the Wharton School, he taught for nearly five decades and has educated thousands of investors and finance professionals. He is the bestselling author of “ Stocks for the Long Run ,” widely considered one of the most influential investing books ever written. Throughout his career, Siegel has become a trusted voice on stock markets, inflation, interest rates, monetary policy and long-term investing. RESOURCES Follow Peter on his social media accounts: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook Follow Creative Planning’s social media accounts: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook

How do you navigate a world shaped by war, geopolitical tension and rapid technological change? General David Petraeus shares his perspective on the biggest global challenges facing leaders, investors and governments today, from Ukraine and the Middle East to China, artificial intelligence and the future of American leadership. In this conversation with Peter Mallouk, General Petraeus draws on decades of military, intelligence and global leadership experience to explain how today's geopolitical landscape differs from any point since the Cold War. He discusses the wars in Ukraine and Gaza, China's growing influence, the evolution of modern warfare through drones and AI, and why productivity and innovation remain America's greatest competitive advantages. What You'll Learn ✅ How geopolitical conflicts are reshaping global markets and investment decisions ✅ Why AI, drones and innovation are transforming the future of warfare and business ✅ General Petraeus's outlook on Ukraine, the Middle East, China and global stability ✅ Why productivity, leadership and American innovation remain critical to long-term economic growth Visit PeterMallouk.com for more conversations with world-class leaders, authors and experts on investing, leadership and living a meaningful life. Timestamps (00:00) Strategy in an unstable world (00:42) The new era of global geopolitics (06:06) Ukraine’s future and Russia (13:44) Drones and the future of warfare (19:07) The Middle East and Israel (30:49) From the CIA to Syria (36:27) Why China matters most (44:26) The biggest global risks (47:38) AI, innovation, and productivity (55:13) The case for never betting against America Key Takeaways 🔹 Global investing increasingly requires understanding geopolitics alongside economics. 🔹 Artificial intelligence and autonomous systems are reshaping warfare, productivity and global competitiveness. 🔹 Long-term success depends on adapting to rapid geopolitical and technological change. 🔹 America's greatest advantage continues to be innovation, entrepreneurship and its ability to attract exceptional talent. About the Guest General David Petraeus is a retired four-star U.S. Army General, former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and Partner at KKR, where he leads the firm's Global Institute. Throughout his distinguished military career, he commanded coalition forces during the Iraq Surge and in Afghanistan, helping shape modern counterinsurgency strategy and U.S. military doctrine. Today, General Petraeus advises global businesses, investors and policymakers on geopolitical risk, international security, economic trends and global investment strategy. His work at KKR focuses on helping companies and investors understand how geopolitical developments affect markets, supply chains and long-term investment opportunities. Recognized as one of the world's leading experts on national security and global affairs, General Petraeus frequently speaks on leadership, innovation, artificial intelligence, international relations and the evolving geopolitical landscape shaping the future of business and investing. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidpetraeus/ Website: https://www.kkr.com/ Resources Creative Planning: http://creativeplanning.com Follow Peter on social media X: https://x.com/PeterMallouk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-mallouk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peter_mallouk/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/OfficialPeterMallouk/

What is private credit, and why are the world's largest investors moving billions into it? Apollo CEO Marc Rowan joins Peter Mallouk for an in-depth conversation on one of the fastest-growing areas in investing. From private credit and private markets to portfolio diversification and long-term wealth creation, Marc explains why the investment landscape is changing and what it means for individual investors. Marc shares why higher interest rates have made private credit more attractive, how private markets are evolving alongside public markets and why diversification, origination and disciplined investing matter more than ever. He also discusses the future of retirement investing, the growing role of financial advisors and how technology is reshaping access to private investments. What You'll Learn ✅ What private credit is and why it's becoming one of the fastest-growing investment opportunities ✅ How private markets are changing portfolio diversification and long-term investing ✅ Why higher interest rates have reshaped the investment landscape ✅ Marc Rowan's outlook on retirement investing, financial advice and the future of private markets Visit PeterMallouk.com for more conversations with world-class leaders, authors and experts on investing, leadership and living a meaningful life. Timestamps (00:00) Private credit, wealth creation, and the future of investing (01:28) Why investors are moving into private credit (06:30) Private vs. public markets (11:25) Why private markets keep growing (16:44) Liquidity and investment returns (22:28) The future of private investing (28:50) What happens during the next bear market? (31:18) Is private credit really “shadow banking”? (35:29) The future of 401(k) investing (38:44) Leadership, culture, and building Apollo Key Takeaways 🔹 Private credit has evolved into one of the fastest-growing asset classes, offering investors new opportunities for diversification and income. 🔹 Successful investing isn't about choosing between public or private markets. It's about building a portfolio that uses both strategically. 🔹 Long-term investment success comes from disciplined underwriting, thoughtful risk management and buying quality assets at the right price. 🔹 As financial markets continue to evolve, access to private investments and professional advice will play an increasingly important role in building wealth. About the Guest Marc Rowan is the Chief Executive Officer of Apollo Global Management, one of the world's largest alternative asset managers and a global leader in private credit, private equity, infrastructure and real assets. Since co-founding Apollo in 1990, Marc has helped grow the firm into one of the most influential investment organizations in the world, managing hundreds of billions of dollars on behalf of institutional and individual investors. Widely recognized as one of the leading voices in private markets, Marc has been instrumental in expanding access to private credit and developing innovative investment solutions for retirement plans, financial advisors and institutions. His expertise spans capital markets, corporate finance, risk management and long-term investing. Beyond Apollo, Marc is actively involved in education, philanthropy and public policy initiatives and widely respected for his thoughtful perspective on financial markets, economic growth and the future of investing. Apollo: https://www.apollo.com Resources Follow Peter on social media Creative Planning: http://creativeplanning.com X: https://x.com/PeterMallouk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-mallouk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peter_mallouk/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/OfficialPeterMallouk/ Follow Creative Planning X: https://x.com/CPIWealth LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/creative-planning Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/creativeplanning_llc/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/creativeplanninginc/ Browse all Icons and Ideas episodes https://creativeplanning.com/icons-and-ideas/ Like the Icons and Ideas podcast? Check out Peter's other podcasts! Signal or Noise https://open.spotify.com/show/5TrovGmwCeeE6BzLh6TcCl Down the Middle https://open.spotify.com/show/7cVILMzVpUo5HcAI91qh2S

What can losing $100 million teach you about building the world's largest asset manager? Larry Fink shares the investing mindset, leadership lessons and risk management principles that transformed one of Wall Street's biggest setbacks into the foundation of BlackRock. In this conversation with Peter Mallouk, Larry reflects on his journey from The First Boston Corporation to co-founding BlackRock, explaining why understanding risk is more important than chasing returns. He discusses the power of long-term investing, why owning real assets builds wealth and how entrepreneurs can turn failure into opportunity. What You'll Learn ✅ How a $100 million loss became the foundation for building BlackRock ✅ Why owning assets instead of simply saving money creates long-term wealth ✅ Larry Fink's outlook on Bitcoin, AI and the future of investing ✅ Leadership lessons on risk management, resilience and building great teams Visit PeterMallouk.com for more conversations with world-class leaders, authors and experts on investing, leadership and living a meaningful life. Timestamps (00:00) The investing mindset that built the world’s largest asset manager (00:37) Larry Fink’s journey to Wall Street (04:10) The $100 million mistake (08:25) Building BlackRock from failure (12:22) Leadership, optimism, and America (15:45) The U.S. debt crisis and investing (22:52) Bitcoin and the future of crypto (28:10) AI, productivity, and business (35:03) Capitalism and leadership (41:55) Larry Fink’s legacy Key Takeaways 🔹 Failure can become the foundation for long-term success when you learn from it. 🔹 Wealth is built by owning productive assets, not simply by saving money. 🔹 Great leadership starts with disciplined risk management and strong teams. 🔹 Long-term optimism has consistently outperformed short-term fear. About the Guest Larry Fink is Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of BlackRock. He and seven partners founded BlackRock in 1988, and under his leadership the firm has grown into a global leader in investment and technology solutions. BlackRock's mission is to help its clients build better financial futures, and the firm is trusted to manage more money than any other investment company in the world. Prior to founding BlackRock in 1988, Mr. Fink was a member of the Management Committee and a Managing Director of The First Boston Corporation. He serves as Co-Chair of the Board of Trustees of the World Economic Forum and Co-Chair of NYU Langone Medical Center. He also serves on the boards of the Museum of Modern Art and the Aspen Institute and on the Advisory Board of the Tsinghua University School of Economics and Management in Beijing, as well as the Executive Committee of the Partnership for New York City. Mr. Fink earned an MBA from the University of California, Los Angeles, (UCLA) in 1976 and a BA from UCLA in 1974. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurencefink/ Website: https://www.blackrock.com/ca Resources Creative Planning: http://creativeplanning.com Follow Peter on social media X: https://x.com/PeterMallouk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-mallouk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peter_mallouk/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/OfficialPeterMallouk/ Follow Creative Planning X: https://x.com/CPIWealth LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/creative-planning Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/creativeplanning_llc/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/creativeplanninginc/ Browse all Icons and Ideas episodes https://creativeplanning.com/icons-and-ideas/ Like the Icons and Ideas podcast? Check out Peter's other podcasts! Signal or Noise https://open.spotify.com/show/5TrovGmwCeeE6BzLh6TcCl Down the Middle https://open.spotify.com/show/7cVILMzVpUo5HcAI91qh2S