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The Zac Perna Podcast

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Welcome to The Zac Perna Podcast, hosted by multi 7-figure entrepreneur, fitness model, content creator, brand owner and published author Zac Perna. This podcast is your go-to for learning how to grow and scale your online coaching business, make more money, create more freedom, and make a bigger impact. I’ll share lessons from building a brand, 8+ years as a fitness coach and content creator, and the wins and failures that got me here. If you’re ready to level up your business, mindset, and life – you’re in the right place.

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  1. If I started Fitness Coaching again in 2026, Here’s exactly what I’d do...

    Sep 16, 202619 min

    🚨 Download the FREE toolkit that gives you a done for you offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprin... Work With Me: https://apply.theonlinecoachingbluepr... Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  2. How I Actually Help Online Fitness Coaches in 2026 (The Blueprint)

    Sep 16, 202616 min

    Apply to work with me: https://apply.theonlinecoachingbluepr... 🚨 Download my FREE toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprin... Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  3. I audited a $20k/Month Online Fitness Coaching Business

    Sep 16, 202622 min

    🚨 Download my FREE toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprin... Today I sit down with one of my coaching clients from The Blueprint, Leigh, an online personal trainer already making around $19,000 a month. We go through exactly what's stopping him from growing past that number. The two things holding him back: his niche and his content don't actually match each other, and he's never had a real strategy behind running ads. We dig into why content is the thing that has to underpin his whole system before ads or anything else will actually work. #onlinefitnesscoaching #onlinecoachingbusiness #fitnessmarketing Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  4. 5 Lies Coaches Tell Themselves About Content Creation

    Sep 16, 202614 min

    🚨 Download my FREE toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprin... Five lies coaches tell themselves about content, and every one of them is the reason they're not posting right now. I break down the "I need to sound like the big coach I follow" lie, the "once a week is enough" lie, the "I can just talk and people will love it" lie, the "I need to be controversial to get attention" lie, and the "people will judge me" lie, the one that actually costs the most and nobody says out loud. #contentcreation #contentcreationtips #coachingbusinesstips Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  5. I Turned Down a $120,000 Job Because I Loved the Gym- My Story

    Sep 15, 20267 min

    Download my Free toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprin... Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  6. Inside a $388,000 Month: The Entire Back End of My Coaching Business

    Sep 14, 202634 min

    Apply to work with me: https://apply.theonlinecoachingbluepr... we did $388,000 cash collected in 30 days with $15,000 of ad spend, and in this video I open up the entire back end of the business and show you how. This is the ad account, the dashboard, the funnels, the CRM pipeline, the automations, the sales process, the team and the client journey. Real screens, not slides. Everything here is what I teach the coaches inside the mentorship, so take what you want and go build it. Fair warning: this is aimed at coaches already doing $10k a month or more who want to scale. If you are under $5k a month a lot of it will be over your head. WHAT GETS COVERED Owning your own marketing instead of handing it to an agency Building funnels, pipelines and automations yourself Tracking the numbers that actually decide whether you can scale Hiring in the right order so you stop being the bottleneck I am Zac Perna. I run The Social Blueprint, a mentorship for online fitness coaches. 158 million views on YouTube, 13,000 clients through my own coaching business, and 10 years spent on fitness marketing. Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  7. How to Start a Coaching Business in 2026 (Everything You Need to Know)

    Sep 2, 202624 min

    🚨 Download my FREE toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprin... If you're starting a coaching business in 2026, don't waste your first month on a logo and a business name, that's not step one, and I watch new coaches do it constantly. Here's how to actually pick your niche properly, how to build a real offer instead of a vague promise, why copying other coaches' content will quietly sink you, and the order to message people in once you're posting. I break down picking your niche in three layers instead of one, building an actual offer around six components instead of a vague promise, why content that copies another coach falls flat and being yourself outperforms it, and the warmest to coldest order to message people in once you're actually posting. Content is what makes the DMs work at all, so we start there first. #howtostartacoachingbusiness #onlinecoachingbusiness #coachingbusiness #startingacoachingbusiness Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  8. How to Run Ads as a Fitness Coach The Only Video You’ll Ever Need

    Sep 2, 202646 min

    🚨 Download my FREE toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprin... Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  9. Is This The End of Online Fitness Coaching?

    Sep 2, 20266 min

    🚨 Download my FREE toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprin... Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  10. What Hanging out with CBUM Taught Me about Business

    Sep 1, 20268 min

    🚨 Download my FREE toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprin... Chris Bumstead has built one of the biggest personal brands in fitness, and it's got nothing to do with lifting more than everyone else. It comes down to how he actually carries himself and how he plays the long game as a business owner. I've caught up with him over the years, including a sit down in Miami a few years back, and the lesson that stuck with me wasn't about training, it was about how he operates as a person and builds trust before he ever asks for anything. In this video I walk through that lesson and the honest link I made between it and how I run my own business. #personalbrand #chrisbumstead #cbum Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  11. Why 90% of Coaches Never Hit $10K/Month

    Sep 1, 202619 min

    🚨 Download my FREE toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprin... Ninety percent of coaches never cross ten thousand dollars a month, and it's got nothing to do with how good they are at coaching. I break down why it's actually a marketing and sales skill problem, why imposter syndrome never actually goes away and isn't fixed by another certification, why growth is a curve most people quit right before it bends up on, and the LTV to CAC number almost no coach running an online coaching business has ever worked out for themselves. #onlinecoaching #coachingbusiness #businesscoaching Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  12. How This Fitness Coach 200x His Income After He Almost Quit

    Aug 22, 202612 min

    🚨 Download my FREE toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprint.com/ One of my clients was about to walk away from coaching completely, not because he couldn't get leads, but because he couldn't sell them. This is Jordan's coaching client success story: what was actually going on in his head every time he got on a call, and the five specific things that changed how he sold. I walk through the congruence principle, the idea that you'll always get the objections you yourself are willing to give, and the five shifts that actually changed how Jordan sold: high intention with low attachment, weighing fear of change against the cost of inaction, checking his own beliefs before every call, preventing objections instead of just rebutting them, and leaning on loss aversion over gain. He didn't quit, and the fix wasn't a new script, it was sorting out what he actually believed first. #successstory #successstories #businesscoaching #coaching Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  13. 10 AI Hacks Every Online Coach Needs in 2026 from The Zac Perna Podcast, opens in a new tab

    Aug 22, 202612 min

    🚨 Download my FREE toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprin... Everything in this video is stuff I've actually got running in my own coaching business right now, so let's skip the buzzwords and get straight into five real AI tips. I walk through turning every sales call and check-in recording into a memory bank on that client, turning one video into a week of content instead of one post, letting AI draft your sales follow-up the second a call ends, letting AI qualify and book your DMs while you're asleep while you still close, and using real data instead of guessing to pick your next video idea. #aitools #aiforcoaches #digitalmarketingforcoaches Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  14. How to Master DMs as an Online Coach in 2026 from The Zac Perna Podcast, opens in a new tab

    Aug 22, 202617 min

    🚨 Download my FREE toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprin... Hey guys, in today's video I talk about everything you need to know about DMs as an online fitness coach to make more money, get more clients, and never get ghosted again. Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  15. How to Create an Online Fitness Coaching Offer | EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW

    Aug 17, 202625 min

    🚨 I built a FREE interactive coaching toolkit that walks you through the exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales. This isn't some boring PDF, it's a tool you actually work through step by step 🔥 Grab it free here 👇 https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprint.com/ Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  16. How to Get Clients as an Online Coach (Without Paid Ads)

    Aug 17, 202617 min

    🚨 Download my FREE toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprin... Learn how to get online fitness coaching clients without spending money on paid ads. Build a consistent client base organically. Getting consistent clients for your online fitness coaching business is possible without relying on expensive ad campaigns. If you are struggling to attract new people, this guide outlines the specific steps needed to grow your revenue and client count. I have spent a decade in the fitness industry and built an online coaching business worth over 300k, and I am sharing the exact methods that work today. This video is for coaches who want to get fitness clients through organic methods rather than paid traffic. You will learn the most important actions to take right now and identify the common mistakes that cost coaches significant money. By implementing these strategies, you can focus on sustainable growth for your online coaching practice. Whether you are just starting out or looking to scale your current operations, these insights will help you streamline your approach. I break down the essentials of client acquisition so you can stop guessing and start building a profitable fitness business. Subscribe for weekly online fitness coaching business breakdowns, and comment below with the biggest challenge you face getting new clients right now. Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  17. Why I Almost Quit a Million Dollar Coaching Business

    Aug 17, 202611 min

    🚨 Download my FREE toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprint.com/ I was making more money than I ever had, and I was about two months from completely burning out, and you couldn't have told from the outside. In this video I break down what burnout actually looks like from the inside, why it's rarely about working too many hours and almost always about carrying the wrong bottleneck yourself, and the exact order I hired people in to fix it: video editor first, then a VA, then a DM setter, then a sub-coach, then a closer last. I also walk through the one number, your buyback rate, that tells you what's actually worth outsourcing. Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  18. 5 Business Mistakes I Wish I'd Fixed Sooner

    Aug 17, 202611 min

    🚨 Download my FREE toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprint.com/ Five mistakes nearly cost me this coaching business, and I still watch coaches make every one of them right now. I walk through discounting instead of raising value, trying to fix everything in the business at once instead of finding the one actual bottleneck, treating one good month as the new normal instead of watching churn like a vital sign, letting clients run out of future, and copying other coaches instead of being yourself on camera. Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  19. How Online Fitness Coaching Works (The Entire Business Model Explained)

    Aug 17, 202624 min

    🚨 I built a FREE interactive toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales: https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprint.com/ So... Is online fitness coaching still profitable? Learn why the fitness business model remains viable despite concerns about industry saturation. Zach Toner, an experienced fitness coach with a decade in the industry, explains how he built a successful career generating 4 million dollars. This video breaks down the reality of starting an online fitness coaching business today, specifically focusing on low overhead costs and the lifestyle flexibility that comes with this career path. If you are questioning whether you missed the window to start, this analysis provides the perspective you need. We examine whether the current market is truly saturated or if there is still significant room for growth. You will learn the core advantages of the online fitness coaching model and how to evaluate if this is the right time for you to enter the space. By looking at the actual mechanics of how coaches scale, you can make an informed decision about your own professional direction. Subscribe for weekly business breakdowns and let me know in the comments if you are currently coaching clients online. Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

  20. Fitness Lead Generation: Everything You Need to Know

    Aug 17, 202621 min

    🚨 I built a FREE interactive coaching toolkit that GIVES you your exact offer, pricing, DM, and sales frameworks behind $4M+ in online coaching sales. 🔥 Grab it free here 👇 https://kit.theonlinecoachingblueprint.com/ Struggling with lead generation for your online fitness coaching business? In this episode I break down why most coaches don't actually have a lead problem — they have a niche, content, or CTA problem — and exactly how to fix it. I'll walk you through the real framework behind my online fitness coaching business (over $300K/month): why your niche is the foundation everything else is built on, how to write call-to-actions that actually convert instead of sounding weak or unbelievable, and how to build "micro lead magnets" that nurture your audience into booked calls. You'll also get the exact math behind a referral system that can nearly double your monthly client count without spending an extra dollar on ads, plus a simple breakdown of how to structure a Meta ads funnel (top, middle, and bottom of funnel) if you're ready to scale with paid traffic. I close out with a daily lead-gen checklist you can start using today — and set up what's coming in the next episode, where I go all-in on the DM strategy that turns cold followers into paying clients. 🔗 Free CTA Playbook: https://thesocialblueprint.com/train/playbook Connect with Zac Perna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacperna/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zacpernafitness/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zacperna Website: https://www.zacperna.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ZacPernaShow/videos Podlink: https://pod.link/1798655360 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aK7QA0FenAndOQV0TfQwY Apple iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-zac-perna-podcast/id1798655360

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