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Both Sides of the Aisle

Published by Natalie Gochnour, Shireen Ghorbani, John Dougall

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Both Sides of the Aisle is a weekly debate over politics, policy and current issues facing the state of Utah, featuring voices representing the Right, the Center, and the Left.Representing Right is State Auditor John Dougall (R), on the Left is former Salt Lake County Councilwoman Shireen Ghorbani (D), and speaking for the “common sense middle” is Natalie Gochnour, an associate dean in the David Eccles School of Business and director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah. The show is produced by Anthony Scoma.Both Sides of the Aisle attempts to help you understand the important questions facing residents of this state, while proving that Republicans and Democrats can sit in a small room and have a meaningful conversation.

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  1. Trump's $5000 midterm enticement and the fight over mail-in ballots from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Sep 17, 202625 min

    Our hosts discuss record high diesel prices, Trump's promise of $5000 checks if Republicans win the midterms, and the federal investigation into Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson.

  2. Climate change, gender partisanship, and Utah's MLB bid from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Sep 10, 202625 min

    Our hosts discuss the pragmatic approach to climate change politics, whether or not the U.S. is "at war" with Iran, and takeaways from Gov. Cox's new book.

  3. Nepal flooding, beef imports, Venezuelan oil, and Meta settlement from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Sep 3, 202625 min

    Natalie and Shireen discuss Trump's international trade policies, Meta's $17 billion child safety settlement, and the defining crises of Governor Cox's term in office.

  4. New Iran sanctions, US-Canada trade war, and Flock cameras in Utah from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Aug 27, 202625 min

    Our hosts discuss the U.S. threatening Iran with an "economic D-Day," the record-breaking $40 trillion national debt, and out-of-state police accessing Utah's Flock cameras.

  5. USS Lincoln, Cox's low approval, and polling on voter ID requirements from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Aug 20, 202625 min

    Our hosts discuss the morale of U.S. forces deployed in the Middle East, why incumbent approval is dropping in Utah, and the partisan split over voter ID requirements.

  6. Iran War impacts, AG Todd Blanche, and Utah Supreme Court candidates from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Aug 13, 202625 min

    Our hosts discuss how the Iran War has impacted military stockpiles and gas prices, the confirmation of a new U.S. attorney general, and who will fill the two vacancies on the Utah Supreme Court.

  7. War powers, Sens. McConnell and Graham, and Utah's energy future from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Aug 6, 202625 min

    Our hosts discuss an Iran war powers resolution's narrow failure, Sen. Mitch McConnell's disappearance, Sen. Lindsey Graham's death, and Utah's bid for a nuclear facility.

  8. Equality Utah from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Jul 30, 202625 min

    Shireen Ghorbani sits down with the leadership of Equality Utah to discuss the group's political advocacy for LGBTQ+ rights and protections in Utah.

  9. Emma Addams and Mormon Women for Ethical Government from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Jul 23, 202625 min

    Our hosts sit down with the co-executive director for Mormon Women for Ethical Government and discuss the group's inception, national and statewide organizing, and its ethical approach to politics.

  10. Professor Jacob Rugh from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Jul 16, 202625 min

    Shireen Ghorbani sits down with Jake Rugh, a BYU sociology professor, to discuss the unique politics of Utah and what they mean for the state's future.

  11. Tim Hawkes, chair of the Great Salt Lake Advisory Council from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Jul 9, 202625 min

    Our hosts discuss the importance of the Great Salt Lake, the danger posed by its disappearance, and how water conservation can protect Utahns' health, environment, and economy.

  12. America 250 from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Jul 2, 202625 min

    Our hosts discuss Independence Day traditions, U.S. leaders and icons, patriotism, and the meaning of the American dream.

  13. Iran, Cuba, the Reflecting Pool, and AI pushback from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Jun 25, 202625 min

    Our hosts discuss U.S. relations with Iran and Cuba, algae blooming in the Reflecting Pool, and how resistance to AI and data centers is reshaping Utah politics.

  14. World Cup 2026, US-Iran memorandum, and Utah's new justices from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Jun 18, 202625 min

    Our hosts discuss the World Cup matches taking place across North America, the world's first trillionaire, and the cost of expanding the Utah Supreme Court.

  15. Trump, ICE and CBP funding package, and the audit of Utah voter rolls from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Jun 12, 202625 min

    Our hosts discuss President Trump's attendance at the Knicks NBA Finals game, Congress's passage of a $70 billion funding package for ICE and CBP, and the results from the audit of Utah's voter rolls.

  16. Gas prices, America's 250th, and the 2024 Democratic post-mortem from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    Jun 4, 202625 min

    Shireen and John discuss affordability, the rush to prepare for the United States' semiquincentennial, and the DNC's faulty autopsy of their 2024 presidential campaign.

  17. Sarah Wright and Glade Sowards from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    May 28, 202624 min

    Natalie Gochnour interviews Sarah Wright, CEO and founder of Utah Clean Energy, and Glade Sowards, senior energy and climate program manager with the Salt Lake City Corporation.

  18. Trump's China trip, a new Federal Reserve chair, and data center pushback from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    May 21, 202625 min

    Our hosts discuss President Trump's trip to China, Kevin Warsh's plans to change the Federal Reserve, and the increasing state and local scrutiny of Utah data centers.

  19. 2026 Wilkes Climate Summit live show from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    May 14, 202625 min

    Our hosts record live at the 2026 Wilkes Climate Summit and discuss data centers, water usage, energy demand, and climate solutions.

  20. King Charles III, Box Elder County data center, and the Utah Supreme Court from Both Sides of the Aisle, opens in a new tab

    May 7, 202625 min

    Our hosts discuss the Republican Party's political strategy going into the midterm elections, the demise of Spirit Airlines, and the battle over a 63 square mile data center in Box Elder County.

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