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The Other 22 Hours

Published by Michaela Anne, Aaron Shafer-Haiss

  • Arts
  • Music
  • Performing arts
  • Music interviews

An exploration of the creative life, lived in the in-between. A sanctuary for the creative spirit in a results-obsessed world. Moving beyond the highlight reel, hosts and working musicians Aaron Shafer-Haiss and Michaela Anne facilitate intimate, artist-to-artist conversations with renowned musicians, authors, visual artists and actors about the grit required to sustain a life in the arts. From navigating doubt to finding stillness, this is the reality of the work. Unfiltered.

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  1. Number 150Music interviewsUnited States

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