The Rumors are True Podcast

On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, we sit down with Kyle Setter, known for his time as the vocalist of Destroy the Runner and Sever Your Ties. We take a deep dive into Kyle’s musical journey, including his time with Destroy the Runner and the era surrounding their debut album Saints, as well as his work with Sever Your Ties and the different chapters that followed throughout his career. Kyle shares stories from being part of the heavy music scene, the friendships, touring, recording, and experiences that came with being in bands during an exciting time for metalcore and post-hardcore music. We also talk about the highs and challenges of life in music, how those experiences shaped him, and what it was like looking back on the impact these bands had on the people who connected with their music. Whether you know Kyle from Destroy the Runner, Sever Your Ties, or both, this episode is a chance to hear the stories behind the music directly from someone who lived it. Join us as we look back at the records, the memories, and the journey that continues to make the rumors true. Produced by Wesley Hill (@thebigwes)Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser)Music by Brian Jerin (R.I.P.) Disclaimer: I do not own the rights to any music featured or played on this podcast. All rights belong to their respective owners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, we welcome Tommy Walter, the creative force behind Abandoned Pools and a musician whose career has taken him through some truly influential corners of alternative and indie rock. Tommy joins us to talk about his musical journey, the formation and evolution of Abandoned Pools, the records that have connected with listeners over the years, and the stories behind the music. We take a deeper dive into the history of Abandoned Pools, discussing the creative process behind the songs, the challenges and changes that come with a long career in music, and what has continued to inspire Tommy to create. From the early days of the band to the music that continues to carry the Abandoned Pools name forward, we explore the highs, lows, and everything in between. We also discuss Tommy’s time with Eels and his experiences working alongside other talented musicians throughout his career. Tommy shares stories from being part of different musical projects, touring, recording, and navigating the ever-changing music industry. It’s a conversation about creativity, perseverance, and the passion that keeps musicians making music long after the first record is released. Whether you've been following Abandoned Pools since the beginning, know Tommy's work through Eels, or are just discovering his music for the first time, this episode is packed with stories and insight into a career that has produced some truly memorable music. We hope you enjoy this conversation with Tommy Walter as much as we did. Produced by Wesley Hill (@thebigwes) Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser) Music by Brian Jerin (R.I.P.) Disclaimer: I do not own the rights to any music or songs featured or discussed on this podcast. All rights belong to their respective owners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, Jeremy sits down with Adam Morgan from the influential North Carolina band Hopesfall. We talk about Adam's time with the band, the early days of Hopesfall, and the experiences that helped shape their unique blend of hardcore, post-hardcore, and melodic metal. We dig into the records, the evolution of Hopesfall's sound, touring, and the people and scenes that surrounded the band throughout their career. Adam shares stories from his time in Hopesfall and gives his perspective on the band's journey from the underground hardcore scene to becoming one of the most respected and influential bands of their era. We also talk about the creative process behind the music, recording and touring, and what it was like watching Hopesfall grow and change from record to record. It's a conversation about the music, the friendships, the struggles, and the moments that made being part of Hopesfall such a memorable experience. Adam takes us behind the scenes of a band whose influence continues to be felt today. From the early years to the records that introduced Hopesfall to a much larger audience, we talk about the stories behind the songs, the scene at the time, and what it meant to be part of that era of heavy music. Produced by Wesley Hill (@thebigwes)Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser)Music by Brian Jerin (R.I.P.) Disclaimer: The Rumors Are True Podcast does not own the rights to any music played in this episode. All music belongs to its respective artists, writers, publishers, and copyright holders. Music is used for commentary, discussion, and promotional purposes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, Jeremy sits down with Chris Dudley, best known as the keyboardist for the influential metalcore band Underoath. Chris takes us through his journey with the band, the early days of Underoath, the evolution of their sound, and what it was like being part of a group that helped shape the heavy music scene of the 2000s. We dig into the stories behind the records, touring, the friendships and experiences that came along with being in Underoath, and the moments that helped define the band's career. Chris also shares his perspective on the music, the scene, and everything that happened along the way. Chris talks about joining Underoath and finding his place within a band that was constantly evolving. We get into the role keyboards and electronics played in Underoath's sound and how those elements helped add another dimension to the band's heavy and atmospheric approach. We also talk about the creative process, recording, and what it was like watching the band grow from the underground scene into one of the defining acts of the era. This conversation also looks beyond the records and into the people and experiences behind them—life on the road, the friendships made through music, the highs and challenges of being in a touring band, and the lasting impact Underoath has had on fans and musicians. Chris reflects on the band's history while sharing plenty of stories from his time behind the keyboards and inside one of the most important bands to come out of the Christian hardcore and metalcore scenes. Produced by Wesley Hill (@thebigwes)Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser)Music by Brian Jerin (R.I.P.) Disclaimer: The Rumors Are True Podcast does not own the rights to any music played in this episode. All music belongs to its respective artists, writers, publishers, and copyright holders. Music is used for commentary, discussion, and promotional purposes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, Jeremy sits down with Ryan Rado, host of Make It Perfect, visual artist, and musician best known for his work with the Nashville hardcore band Colson. Ryan has been involved in the Nashville music and hardcore scene for years, while also building a career as an artist and creating the Make It Perfect show, a unique platform where he talks with artists, musicians, and other creatives about their lives, work, and the ideas behind what they create. Jeremy and Ryan dig into Ryan's history in music, the story of Colson, the Nashville scene, his transition into visual art, and the creation of Make It Perfect. They also talk about creativity, authenticity, the people and experiences that have shaped Ryan's journey, and what happens when music, art, and honest conversation all collide. It's a conversation about the past, the present, and what it means to keep creating even when the path doesn't look anything like you originally imagined. Produced by Wesley Hill (@thebigwes)Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser)Music by Brian Jerin (R.I.P.) DISCLAIMER: The Rumors Are True Podcast does not own the rights to any music used in this episode. All music belongs to its respective artists, writers, labels, and copyright holders. Music is used for commentary, discussion, and promotional purposes. No copyright infringement is intended. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Rumors Are True Podcast This week on The Rumors Are True, we're joined by Orion Walsh, vocalist and guitarist of the influential post-hardcore band Slow Coming Day. Orion reflects on the band's beginnings, signing with Tooth & Nail Records, and the impact Slow Coming Day had during the early 2000s melodic hardcore and emo movement. We discuss the writing and recording of their albums, life on the road, and what it was like to be part of a generation of bands that helped shape an era of independent music. We also talk about Orion's journey beyond Slow Coming Day, how his perspective on music and creativity has evolved over the years, and what he's working on today. From stories behind the songs to lessons learned through decades of making music, this conversation is full of nostalgia, insight, and encouragement for longtime fans and those discovering Slow Coming Day for the first time. Whether you grew up with Farewell to the Familiar and Zion or are just now exploring the band's catalog, this episode is a celebration of the music, memories, and lasting legacy of Slow Coming Day. Produced by Wesley Hill (@thebigwes)Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser)Music by Brian Jerin (R.I.P.) Copyright Disclaimer:I do not own the rights to any music played in this episode. All music is the property of their respective copyright owners and is used for commentary, discussion, and promotional purposes only. No copyright infringement is intended. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The Rumors Are True, we're joined by Justin Jones, drummer and founding member of idle threat, the Nashville-based rock band signed to Tooth & Nail Records. Justin shares the story behind the band's formation, their DIY beginnings, and the journey that led them to one of the most respected labels in alternative and heavy music. We talk about the passion that drives idle threat, the band's message of hope through struggle, and the experiences that have shaped their music over the years. We also dive into the making of blurred visions, the impact of touring and connecting with fans, and the band's latest chapter with you'll forget the sun. Justin opens up about songwriting, faith, perseverance, and how idle threat continues to create music that speaks honestly about life's hardships while pointing listeners toward hope. Whether you've been following the band since their early EPs or are just discovering their music, this conversation offers a behind-the-scenes look at one of Tooth & Nail's standout modern artists. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and share this episode with your friends! Produced by Wesley Hill (@thebigwes)Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser)Music by Brian Jerin (R.I.P.) Copyright Disclaimer:I do not own the rights to any music played in this episode. All music is the property of its respective copyright owners and is used for commentary, discussion, and promotional purposes only. No copyright infringement is intended. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The Rumors Are True, we welcome Erick Newbill from Fair and Subways on the Sun. Erick joins us for an in-depth conversation about his musical journey, from joining Aaron Sprinkle's acclaimed alternative rock band Fair to fronting the Seattle indie rock outfit Subways on the Sun. We dive into the creative process behind both bands, the evolution of his songwriting, balancing music with life, and the stories behind the records that have connected with fans over the years. We also discuss the Pacific Northwest music scene, the making of The Best Worst-Case Scenario and Disappearing World with Fair, as well as Subways on the Sun's albums The Honeymoon Stagecoach and Capsize. Erick shares memories from the studio, lessons learned through decades of making music, and what continues to inspire him as an artist. If you're a fan of melodic alternative rock, thoughtful songwriting, or the legacy of Seattle's independent music scene, this is an episode you won't want to miss. Produced by Wesley Hill (@thebigwes)Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser)Music by Brian Jerin (R.I.P.) Copyright Disclaimer:I do not own the rights to any music played in this episode. All music is the property of its respective copyright owners and is used for commentary, discussion, and promotional purposes only. No copyright infringement is intended. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The Rumors Are True, we're joined by Dan Didier, drummer for The Promise Ring, Maritime, Vermont, and more. Dan has been an integral part of the independent music scene for decades, helping shape the sound of one of the most influential emo and indie rock bands of the late '90s before continuing his musical journey with Maritime and other projects. In this conversation, Dan reflects on the early days of The Promise Ring, the band's lasting legacy, life on the road, songwriting, recording, and the evolution into Maritime following The Promise Ring's breakup. We also dive into his work with Vermont, discuss the Milwaukee music scene, and explore how his perspective on music and creativity has changed over the years. Whether you've been a longtime fan since Nothing Feels Good or discovered his music through Maritime or Vermont, this episode offers an honest and insightful look at a career that has influenced generations of independent musicians. Produced by: Wesley Hill (@thebigwes)Artwork by: Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser)Music by: Brian Jerin (R.I.P.) Copyright Disclaimer:The music featured at the beginning and/or end of this episode is the property of its respective copyright owner(s). No copyright infringement is intended, and The Rumors Are True Podcast does not claim ownership of any copyrighted music used in this episode. The music is included for commentary, appreciation, and promotional purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Rumors Are True, we welcome Ryan Dominguez from the band Tokyo Rose. Ryan joins us for a conversation about the formation of Tokyo Rose, the New Jersey emo and pop-punk scene of the early 2000s, and the journey that led the band from local shows to national tours, the Vans Warped Tour, and the release of beloved albums including Reinventing a Lost Art, New American Saint, and The Promise in Compromise. We also dive into the stories behind the albums, discussing the producers the band worked with, how those collaborations helped shape Tokyo Rose's signature sound, and the creative thought that went into each record. Ryan also shares memories about the album artwork, the inspiration behind the visual direction of the releases, and how the imagery became an important part of the band's identity. In addition, we discuss the band's long hiatus, what inspired their return, the excitement of writing and releasing new music again, the remastered anniversary edition of New American Saint, and how it feels to reconnect with longtime fans while introducing Tokyo Rose to a new generation. Ryan shares stories from the road, the creative process behind the band's music, lessons learned over the years, and what's next for Tokyo Rose as they continue this exciting new chapter. If you grew up on early-2000s emo and pop-punk, or you're discovering Tokyo Rose for the first time, you won't want to miss this conversation. Thanks for listening to The Rumors Are True! Episode Credits Produced by Wesley Hill (@thebigwes)Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser)Music by Brian Jerin (R.I.P.) Copyright Disclaimer: I do not own the rights to any music featured in this podcast. All rights belong to their respective owners. This content is intended for commentary, criticism, discussion, and promotional purposes only, with the goal of supporting the artists and their music. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy welcomes Chris Raines for an in-depth conversation about his remarkable journey through some of heavy music's most influential underground bands. Chris reflects on the early days of Spitfire, a pioneering Virginia Beach metalcore band that helped shape the sound of heavy music in the late 1990s and early 2000s. He shares stories from recording albums such as The Dead Next Door, navigating lineup changes, relentless touring, and the band's lasting impact on the hardcore and metal scenes. The conversation also explores Chris's time with Norma Jean, one of the most influential metalcore bands of their generation. Chris discusses stepping into the band during a pivotal era, the creative process behind the music, life on the road, and the challenges of balancing family life with the demands of touring and recording. He offers unique insight into the evolution of the genre and the relationships built throughout years in the underground music community. Chris also dives into the story behind Sunndrug, the project he formed alongside former Spitfire bandmate Jimmy Reeves. Moving beyond the aggressive sounds of his earlier work, Sunndrug allowed Chris to explore new creative territory through atmospheric and emotionally driven songwriting. Together, they discuss the making of Exit Wounds, the band's artistic vision, and what continues to inspire him after decades of making music. This episode is a fascinating look at perseverance, creativity, and the lasting bonds formed through music. Produced by Wesley Hill (@thebigwes) Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser) Music by Brian Jerin (R.I.P.) Copyright Disclaimer: I do not own the rights to any music used in this podcast episode. All music is the property of its respective copyright owners and is used for commentary, criticism, educational, and promotional purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy sits down with brothers James Tuttle and Jon Tuttle of the influential North Carolina band Codeseven and the atmospheric post-Codeseven project Telescreen. The conversation traces the band's journey from their early hardcore and metal roots in the mid-1990s through their evolution into one of the most innovative and melodic acts in underground rock. James and Jon share stories from the creation of landmark releases such as A Sense of Coalition, The Rescue, and Dancing Echoes/Dead Sounds, discussing how the band's sound continually evolved while maintaining its unique identity. The brothers also reflect on the challenges and rewards of creating music together as family members, the band's original breakup, reunion, and eventual return with Go Let It In, their first full-length album in nearly two decades. The discussion explores songwriting, experimentation, touring memories, and the creative spirit that has kept Codeseven relevant and inspiring to multiple generations of listeners. In addition, James and Jon dive into the story behind Telescreen, the ambitious project formed following Codeseven's initial breakup. They discuss the band's cinematic live performances, progressive soundscapes, and the artistic freedom that came with exploring new musical territory. Fans of Codeseven, Telescreen, and the broader alternative and post-hardcore scenes will enjoy this deep dive into the history, creativity, and enduring friendship behind these influential bands. Produced by Wesley Hill (@thebigwes) Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser) Music by Brian Jerin (R.I.P.) Copyright Disclaimer: I do not own the rights to any music used in this podcast episode. All music is the property of its respective copyright owners and is used for promotional, commentary, and educational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Rumors Are True Podcast welcomes Chris Daly, legendary drummer known for his work with Texas Is the Reason, Jets to Brazil, 108, Ressurection, and many other influential projects. Chris joins the show to look back on his incredible journey through the hardcore, post-hardcore, and indie rock scenes—from the raw intensity of early ’90s hardcore with Ressurection and 108, to helping shape the emotional and melodic sound of Texas Is the Reason, and later creating timeless records with Jets to Brazil. In this conversation, Chris shares stories from the road, the creative process behind these iconic bands, the evolution of his drumming style, and what it was like collaborating with artists such as Blake Schwarzenbach and Jeremy Chatelain during the Jets to Brazil years. We explore classic releases including Do You Know Who You Are?, Orange Rhyming Dictionary, and the lasting impact these records continue to have on generations of musicians and fans. This is a deep dive into the history of underground music with one of its most respected and versatile drummers—a conversation filled with memories, insight, and a genuine love for the music that shaped a movement. Produced by Wesley Hill (@thebigwes)Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser)Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P. Disclaimer: The Rumors Are True Podcast does not own the rights to any music featured in this episode. All rights belong to their respective owners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special returning guest episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy welcomes back Johnathon Ford and Matthew Putman from the acclaimed instrumental post-rock band Unwed Sailor. As longtime collaborators and creative partners, Johnathon and Matthew dive deep into the band's remarkable journey, reflecting on the evolution of Unwed Sailor and the creative vision that has guided the band through multiple eras of independent music. A major focus of this conversation is a deep dive into Unwed Sailor's last three releases, culminating with their latest album. Johnathon and Matthew discuss the songwriting, recording process, themes, and musical growth represented across these records, offering listeners a behind-the-scenes look at how the band's sound has continued to develop while remaining true to its roots. Fans will enjoy hearing the stories, inspirations, and challenges that shaped these albums and the artistic decisions that brought them to life. The conversation also explores their extensive musical histories, including Johnathon's work with Pedro the Lion, Roadside Monument, and other projects, as well as Matthew's contributions to Living Sacrifice, Lovedrug, and numerous other musical endeavors. Whether you're a longtime fan of Unwed Sailor or discovering their music for the first time, this episode offers an engaging look at creativity, collaboration, faith, perseverance, and the passion that continues to fuel meaningful art. Produced by Wesley Hill (@thebigwes)Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser)Music by Brian Jerin — R.I.P. Copyright Disclaimer: Any music featured in this episode is used for commentary, criticism, review, and promotional purposes only. The Rumors Are True Podcast does not own the rights to any copyrighted music that may be played during this episode. All rights, including copyrights, remain the property of their respective owners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy welcomes Bob Nanna from the influential bands Braid, Hey Mercedes, etc. for a conversation diving deep into the roots of emo, independent music culture, songwriting, and the lasting impact of the underground scene. Bob reflects on the early days of Braid, the creative energy that surrounded the Midwest punk and emo movement, and how those experiences shaped both his music and personal life over the years. The discussion explores the transition from Braid into Hey Mercedes, the evolution of songwriting through different eras, and the challenges of balancing creativity with the realities of touring and adulthood. Jeremy and Bob also talk about the continued influence of these records on younger generations of musicians and fans, as well as the importance of authenticity in art and community. From DIY shows to landmark albums, this episode captures a unique perspective from one of the defining voices of the scene. Filled with nostalgia, thoughtful reflection, and stories from decades of making music, this episode is a must-listen for fans of emotional punk, indie rock, and the bands that helped shape alternative music in the late ’90s and early 2000s. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P. Disclaimer: I do not own the rights to this song/music. All rights belong to the respective owners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy sits down with Christopher Lee Lewis from the post-hardcore band The Kinison for a deep conversation about music, chaos, creativity, and the journey that took the band from small-town Illinois to sharing stages with some of the biggest names in alternative rock. Known for their explosive energy, emotionally charged songwriting, and cult classic album What Are You Listening To?, The Kinison left a lasting mark on the early 2000s underground scene. Christopher opens up about the band’s origins, the move to California, touring life, and the passion that fueled The Kinison during a wild era of post-hardcore and punk rock. The conversation also explores the band’s connection to Casey Chaos, who helped champion the group early on, as well as the lasting impact the music still has on fans today. Jeremy and Christopher reflect on the highs and lows of the music industry, creative burnout, and the complicated realities artists face behind the scenes. This episode is filled with honest stories, nostalgia, and insight into one of the most underrated bands of the 2000s post-hardcore scene. Whether you discovered The Kinison through the Mortgage Is Bank EP, the LaSalle Records era, or years later through word of mouth, this conversation captures the heart behind the music and the legacy the band continues to carry. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P. Disclaimer: I do not own the rights to this song/music. All rights belong to the respective owners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy is joined by Stephen Laurenson from Copeland, along with discussions surrounding his work in States, Abloom, and Demure. Stephen reflects on his time with Copeland and the band’s lasting influence on the indie and alternative scene through their emotionally rich songwriting, ambient textures, and deeply personal live performances. The conversation explores the creative process behind the music, life on the road, and how Copeland built a dedicated fanbase through authenticity and artistic evolution over the years. Jeremy and Stephen also dive into the experience of joining Copeland during an important season for the band, collaborating with Aaron Marsh and the rest of the group, and helping bring the band’s layered sound to life both in the studio and on stage. They discuss the balance between technical musicianship and emotional connection, the challenges of longevity in music, and how Copeland’s catalog continues to resonate with listeners who grew up with the band’s music soundtracking important moments in their lives. The episode also highlights Stephen’s work with States, the indie-rock project featuring former members of Lydia and Copeland. Stephen shares stories about the formation of the band, the creation of Room to Run, and the passion behind crafting music that blended cinematic atmosphere with heartfelt indie-rock songwriting. The conversation touches on the creative freedom that States embraced, the connection fans still have with the project, and how those experiences shaped him as both a musician and songwriter. With additional reflections on Abloom and Demure, this episode is filled with honest conversation, behind-the-scenes stories, and nostalgia for fans of indie, emo, and alternative music scenes from the 2000s and beyond. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy sits down with Mark Rose from the legendary Spitalfield to talk about the rise of the early 2000s emo and post-hardcore scene, the band’s journey through the Chicago music community, and the lasting impact of albums like Remember Right Now. Mark reflects on the formative years of Spitalfield, touring life, songwriting, and what it was like navigating the changing landscape of alternative music during a pivotal era for independent bands. The conversation also dives into Mark’s creative life beyond Spitalfield, including his solo work and his passion for helping artists connect with fans through custom songwriting and community-driven projects. Jeremy and Mark discuss how nostalgia, personal growth, and staying inspired continue to shape the music they love and the scenes they came from. From stories about Victory Records and Chicago’s exploding punk and emo movement to reflections on friendship, creativity, and longevity, this episode is packed with honest insight and memorable moments for longtime fans and newcomers alike. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy sits down with Bradley Swanson, known for his work in Pep Squad and The Company, for an honest and reflective conversation about his journey through music, creativity, and personal growth. Bradley shares stories from the early days of both bands, offering insight into the DIY spirit, the relationships that shaped the music, and the challenges of navigating a constantly evolving scene. Fans of underground and independent music will appreciate the behind-the-scenes look at what it really took to build something meaningful during that era. The conversation also explores Bradley’s perspective on how music intersects with identity, faith, and life beyond the stage. He opens up about lessons learned over the years, the highs and lows of being in a band, and how those experiences continue to influence him today. Jeremy and Bradley keep things conversational and genuine, making this episode feel like a deep catch-up between old friends while still inviting listeners into the story. Whether you followed Pep Squad, The Company, or are just discovering Bradley’s work, this episode captures the heart of what The Rumors Are True is all about—preserving stories, celebrating creativity, and finding truth in the journey. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P. Ads do not influence the answers you get from ChatGPT. Your chats stay private. Learn about ads and personalization Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy sits down with Dave Elkins of Mae for a deep, reflective journey through the band’s entire catalog—tracing the evolution of both the music and the meaning behind it. From the early days of Destination: Beautiful through the fan-favorite The Everglow and into the more experimental and expansive later releases, the conversation highlights how each record represents a specific season of life, creativity, and intention. Mae’s identity as a “multisensory aesthetic experience” becomes a thread throughout, revealing how the band always aimed to create something bigger than just songs. Dave opens up about the stories, emotions, and philosophies that shaped each era of the band—from youthful ambition and touring life to deeper themes of connection, purpose, and artistic growth. The episode explores how albums like Singularity and the (m)(a)(e) EP series pushed boundaries sonically and conceptually, ultimately leading to the band’s later work and renewed vision. Along the way, listeners get insight into Dave’s songwriting process, the band’s evolving dynamics, and how time and perspective have reshaped his relationship with these songs. More than just a retrospective, this episode feels like a guided walkthrough of Mae’s legacy—offering longtime fans new context and inviting new listeners into the heart behind the music. It’s a conversation about art, memory, and the enduring impact of creating with intention. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchastbowser Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices