Back of the Pack Podcast

In this week’s Second Wind, we continue The Ultra Curious by tackling one of the biggest mindset shifts road runners face when stepping into the ultramarathon world: sometimes the smartest way to go farther is to slow down sooner. We explore why ultra pacing is less about chasing a specific number on the watch and more about managing an “effort budget” that has to last for hours. From power hiking hills to resisting the urge to chase other runners, we look at how restraint early can preserve the legs, stomach, hydration, and mental energy we will desperately want later. We also break down why walking while we still feel good can be a strategy instead of a surrender, and why the run-everything mentality can become a liability once the distance stretches past the marathon. Fueling plays a huge role too, because if we are moving too hard to comfortably eat, drink, and digest, then our pace may be working against the very system keeping us in the race. We dig into the trap of trying to “bank time,” the difference between building a smart cutoff cushion and burning ourselves up early, and why efficient aid-station stops matter just as much as what happens between them. Along the way, we introduce a simple three-phase approach for managing an ultra: Protect. Maintain. Spend. The goal is not to crawl through the entire day, but to move fast enough to make progress and slow enough to remain sustainable. Because in ultrarunning, patience, restraint, fueling, walking, and problem-solving are not signs that the race is going badly, they are part of the performance itself.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we are back to a more normal race-review rhythm after Sydney, with one race from Hawaii, one race from Kansas City, and one very big milestone to unpack. First up is the Old Pali Road 5K on Oahu, a race that sounded like a fun Hawaiian bonus run until calendar chaos, time-zone weirdness, and a surprise 6:30 a.m. start turned it into a scramble before the first step. Kyle arrived late, missed the official start, chased the course on his own, climbed nearly 700 feet in the first half, passed 30 people, and still managed to leave with a race shirt, because sometimes the real finisher medal is the cotton-poly blend you negotiate for afterward. Then it is back home for the 2026 Plaza 10K, a long-running Kansas City fall tradition and the first race in the Heartland 30K series. This year’s Plaza 10K brought a new course because of the Kansas City streetcar expansion, which meant a different route, fewer favorite downhills, but still a well-run event, a strong turnout, a sharp medal, good crowd support, and a perfectly timed start. The bigger story, though, is that the Plaza 10K marked Kyle’s 400th race, giving us a chance to look at the numbers behind the madness: 188 5Ks, 68 10Ks, 95 half marathons, 17 full marathons, and 2,893 raced! We break down what those numbers actually mean, including how 5Ks make up nearly half of the starts while half marathons carry the biggest share of the mileage. To close things out, Kyle talks about what that much running can do for the body, from cardiovascular fitness and blood pressure to bones, muscles, tendons, mobility, brain health, durability, body awareness, and the not-so-glamorous but very necessary art of recovery.

In this week’s Second Wind, we continue The Ultra Curious by asking what really changes when everyday road runners start looking beyond 26.2 miles and toward the ultramarathon world. We break down why a 50K is more than simply “a marathon plus five miles,” and how pace, terrain, elevation, and time on feet can completely change the way we approach the day. We talk about learning to view walking as strategy instead of failure, loosening our obsession with mile splits, and understanding that sustainable effort matters far more than chasing traditional road-race pace. We also dive into the very different world of ultra aid stations, fueling, hydration, gear, and the danger of getting a little too comfortable when the aid station starts looking more like a neighborhood cookout than a quick water stop. Cutoff times, changing weather, trail surfaces, and even something as simple as knowing what to carry can suddenly become major pieces of the race-day puzzle. The mental side changes too, because ultrarunning can mean riding several emotional highs and lows while learning not to make permanent decisions during temporary bad patches. The good news is that we are not starting from scratch, because everything we have learned through 5Ks, 10Ks, half marathons, and marathons still gives us a strong endurance foundation to build from. We’re still road runners at heart, but as we dip our toes into this new world, we’re learning one thing very quickly: same runner, different game.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we are back from Australia and finally diving into the big review of the 2026 TCS Sydney Marathon. Kyle opens the episode running on jet lag, very little sleep, and the aftermath of a trip where nearly everything that could go wrong did, including a travel nightmare that turned the road to Sydney into its own endurance event. After delays, missed connections, an unexpected 24-hour layover in Vancouver, baggage issues, and arriving in Sydney just 24 hours before the marathon, the race weekend started with a missed 5K and a rushed trip through the expo at Sydney Olympic Park. From there, we get into the marathon itself, from the corral setup and downhill start in North Sydney to the early climb over the iconic Sydney Harbour Bridge and the first miles through The Rocks, Darling Harbour, Pyrmont, Barangaroo, Circular Quay, and downtown Sydney. The course review follows the race through the Pride section, the long southern stretch, Centennial Park, and the late miles back toward the Opera House, where the second half brought steady climbs, fading crowd support, mental math, and a whole lot of survival-mode running. Kyle also breaks down why the Sydney sun felt so draining, clearing up the ozone-layer rumor while explaining how strong UV, glare, time on course, hydration struggles, jet lag, and marathon fatigue all combined to make the day tougher than the temperature suggested. Even though the race did not go according to plan and finished around 6 hours and 22 minutes, the final run down toward the Sydney Opera House still delivered one of the most memorable finish lines in the World Marathon Majors. Along the way, Sydney earns huge praise for its volunteers and aid stations, while the episode also covers the medal, the now-famous wrong-stadium mistake, and the lessons future Sydney runners should take seriously: get there early, train for hills, plan your hydration, and respect the sun.

We’re kicking off a brand-new Second Wind series called The Ultra Curious, where we start exploring what happens when everyday road runners begin looking beyond 26.2 miles and into the strange, fascinating world of ultrarunning. For our first stop, longtime friend of the show and frequent guest host Karin Velez of the award-winning Just Grow Something podcast takes over the mic while we’re still traveling after the Sydney Marathon. Karin is usually the one bringing the science, but this time she is digging into the history behind one of ultrarunning’s most recognizable traditions: the finisher belt buckle. Why do so many American ultramarathons hand out buckles instead of the medals road runners know and love? Where did that tradition begin, and how did it become such a deeply rooted part of ultra culture? Karin walks us through the history, the symbolism, and the reason that shiny piece of hardware means so much more than simply having something new to hold up for the finish-line photo. It is the perfect introduction to a running world filled with its own traditions, language, expectations, and wonderfully unusual customs. Buckle up, because The Ultra Curious is officially heading beyond the marathon.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, Kyle is off in Sydney, Australia chasing another World Marathon Major, so we are turning the microphone over to guest host Sierra Morris from The Run, Shattered Podcast. Sierra, also known as ShatteredRunner, brings her focus on mental skills, resilience, and the psychological side of running to a topic every runner needs: confidence. This episode dives into how confidence is built, why it matters in training, and how runners can strengthen their mindset before they ever reach the start line. Sierra explores the mental tools marathoners and ultramarathoners use to stay steady when races get hard, including visualization, breath work, mantras, preparation, and learning how to trust the work already done. Whether you are chasing a PR, attempting a new distance, coming back from a rough race, or just trying to believe you belong out there, this conversation is built for you. Confidence is not about pretending everything will go perfectly, it is about knowing you can handle the messy middle when things get uncomfortable. With Kyle halfway around the world and the Back of the Pack community watching the Sydney adventure unfold, this guest episode is the perfect reminder that running is never just about legs and lungs. Sometimes the biggest race-day breakthrough starts with what is happening between your ears.

With race weekend finally here, The Final Stretch comes to a close from Sydney, Australia, just two days before the TCS Sydney Marathon. At this point, there is no more fitness to build, no more missed workouts to chase, and no more cramming left to do, which means readiness has officially stopped being a question and become a decision. We talk about the last things we can still control, from hydration, nutrition, rest, and race-week logistics to making sure a Saturday 5K does not become an accidental dress rehearsal for disaster. We also tackle jet lag, unpredictable weather, race-day nerves, and why nothing new belongs anywhere near our shoes, fuel, clothing, or strategy this late in the game. With A, B, and C goals still in play, we look at why solving the mile we are actually in matters far more than worrying about mile 22 before the gun even fires. There is also a bigger reminder woven through this finale: whether we are standing at a World Marathon Major or a neighborhood 5K, getting to a start line is something worth appreciating rather than taking for granted. Sydney was never part of the original plan, but one unexpected lottery acceptance turned it into another chapter in a journey that has already stretched through Chicago, New York, Boston, Berlin, and Tokyo. The work is finished, the bags are packed, and now there is only one thing left to do: trust what we built, enjoy where we are, and go run the race.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we are recording the final episode from the United States before the podcast heads across the world for Sydney Marathon Week. Before the passport panic takes over, Kyle recaps the Head for the Cure 5K in Overland Park, a massive Kansas City-area event supporting brain cancer awareness, research, and families impacted by the disease. From there, we turn the spotlight to the TCS Sydney Marathon presented by ASICS, breaking down the race, the history, the course, the logistics, and why this new World Marathon Major matters. We talk about Sydney’s Olympic roots, its growth into the seventh Abbott World Marathon Major, and how the race has quickly become a major destination for runners chasing stars around the globe. The episode walks listeners through the Harbour Bridge start, the Sydney Opera House finish, the seven-hour cutoff, the time difference for everyone following along back home, and the reality that there are still 26.2 miles of consequences between those postcard moments. Kyle also digs into the race expo at Sydney Olympic Park, race-day transportation, tracking, volunteers, safety, weather concerns, and the now-famous 2026 medal mistake that accidentally gave the finisher medal a quick layover in Munich. Of course, this preview comes with plenty of back-of-the-pack honesty about jet lag, travel stress, extra walking, pacing, hills, rain, and the main goal of simply surviving the race and earning that Sydney star. With Sydney as Kyle’s sixth World Marathon Major and London waiting in 2027, this episode is part race preview, part travel sendoff, and part invitation for the whole Back of the Pack community to follow along as the next big adventure begins.

With the TCS Sydney Marathon now just nine days away, **The Final Stretch** reaches the point where the heavy training is finished and the challenge becomes learning to **Trust What You Built**. At this stage, there is very little we can do physically to dramatically change race-day fitness, but there is still plenty our brains can do to completely sabotage it. We dig into taper brain, the strange urge to question everything we have done, and why one ugly workout or bad race somehow gets more attention than weeks of solid work. Instead of replaying the blooper reel, we look at the evidence already in the bank, from miles and races completed to heat training, fueling practice, experience, and the ability to keep moving when things get difficult. We also ask the uncomfortable but important question: **what did this training cycle actually build**, whether that is PR fitness, goal-time fitness, survival fitness, or simply enough to fight our way to the finish? From there, we break down A, B, and C race goals and why changing the plan when conditions change does not mean abandoning the mission. Whether this is marathon number one or marathon number seventeen, the goal now is to stop borrowing somebody else’s confidence crisis, prepare for the bad miles, and trust that we have enough tools to solve the problems race day throws at us. The work does not have to be perfect to be valuable, and with Sydney almost here, it is time to stop negotiating with the past and give race day the chance to show us what we built.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we are recapping a packed mid-August weekend with two charity races, one major run club push, and Sydney now less than two weeks away. We start with a quick heads-up that the 2027 Tokyo Marathon lottery is open, along with a reminder that Tokyo is incredible, but not exactly built for back-of-the-pack comfort. From there, we head to Lawrence, Kansas for the Rexy Run 5K & 10K, where the podcast community showed up strong for Baby Jay’s Legacy of Hope and the new 10K course brought hills, wetlands, heat, volunteers, and one very fun spinning dinosaur medal. We also talk about what it means when a charity race grows so much that it may eventually need a bigger home. Then it is back to Parkville for the first-ever Hearts for Ronald McDonald House Charity Half Marathon, where the humidity was rude, the course was familiar, and the final stretch brought just enough confusion to make things spicy. Even on a rough race day, this one marked Kyle’s 95th half marathon, which means the countdown to number 100 is officially getting real. We also make one more big push for this Thursday’s Chasing Rabbits Run Club, where the KC Sports Commission will be filming, Garmin Kansas City Marathon will be there, and we need the whole running family to bring the energy. It is a race-review episode full of big causes, hot miles, community pride, course chaos, and that very familiar feeling that the next adventure is already breathing down our necks.

With the TCS Sydney Marathon now just two weeks away, The Final Stretch continues with a question every nervous marathoner eventually asks: can we make up for lost training at the last minute? This week, we tackle the urge to cram for a marathon, from missed long runs and shortened workouts to those summer races that suddenly start looking like evidence that everything has gone wrong. We dig into why panic training can create more problems than it solves, especially when the body should be shifting toward recovery instead of punishment. But this is not quite a black-and-white conversation, because sometimes there may be a difference between cramming for a PR and doing just enough to prepare ourselves to survive the distance. We look at what can still be sharpened this close to race day, what simply cannot be rebuilt anymore, and why protecting confidence may be just as important as protecting our legs. Heat, social-media comparison, training guilt, and the temptation to chase numbers on the watch all make appearances as we try to keep perspective heading into the taper. We also talk about why one bad summer race does not get to predict what happens when race day arrives in cooler conditions. At this stage, the goal is no longer to become a completely different runner in fourteen days, but to arrive at the starting line healthy enough, rested enough, and mentally ready to use what we already have. The time for proving fitness is almost over, and the time for preserving it has arrived.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we are celebrating a major milestone: 300 episodes of race reviews, community stories, road trips, charity conversations, bad decisions, emotional moments, and back-of-the-pack chaos. Technically, this is Episode 299, but with Episode 300 dropping Friday, we are taking this Monday episode to pause, look around, and talk about what this podcast has become since it started as a simple “I make the mistakes so you don’t have to” running show. We look back at the race reviews that became the bread and butter of the show, the community organizations and race directors who gave us a chance, and the local running family that turned this podcast into something much bigger than one guy talking into an old microphone. From Rexy Run and Fighting Fentanyl to Run Liberty, Garmin Kansas City Marathon, Chasing Rabbits Run Club, Second Wind, and the growing cast of podcast mascots, this episode is a reminder that the stories around the miles often matter just as much as the miles themselves. We also dig into the numbers, including 201 race entries, more than 1,500 race miles, nearly 319 hours on course, 87 5Ks, 38 10Ks, 54 half marathons, 8 full marathons, and one wonderfully ridiculous Death by 5K. Along the way, we talk about the World Marathon Majors completed during the life of the podcast, the repeat races that have become recurring characters, the fastest times on the spreadsheet, the longest gaps between races, and why consistency matters in both podcasting and running. More than anything, this episode is a thank-you to the listeners, Patreon supporters, race directors, guests, volunteers, running friends, run club members, and everyone who has shared, watched, downloaded, commented, or told someone else about the show. Episode 300 is not the finish line, it is an aid station, and after we take inventory, refill the bottle, and eat something questionable, we are getting right back on the road toward Sydney, Rexy Run, race number 400, fall marathon season, and whatever comes next.

With the TCS Sydney Marathon just three weeks away, we are officially entering The Final Stretch and asking one deceptively simple question: what does being “ready” actually mean? Most runners expect readiness to feel like confidence, control, and unstoppable momentum, but marathon preparation usually arrives wearing fatigue, uncertainty, random aches, and a suspiciously bad attitude. In this episode, we look beyond one missed workout, one rough long run, or one ugly summer pace to examine the full body of work behind race-day preparation. We discuss why nervousness is not proof that we are unprepared and why experience often makes us more aware of everything that can go sideways. We also explore the difference between an imperfect training cycle and a truly incomplete one, especially for runners balancing heat, recovery, injuries, responsibilities, and real life. Destination races add another layer, because being ready involves far more than running fitness, from travel logistics and medications to gear, fueling, and conserving energy before race morning. As Sydney approaches, we take an honest look at the evidence, the warning signs, and the adjustments that may need to happen before stepping onto the starting line. Being prepared to finish and being prepared to chase a specific time are not always the same thing, and recognizing that difference may be one of the smartest race decisions we make. We may never feel fearless, but we can still be ready enough to take the next step.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we are catching up on a busy stretch of running, volunteering, night racing, and hot-weather half marathon chaos. We start at the Matt Mason Cowboy Up Triathlon at Smithville Lake, where Kyle traded in his race bib for a volunteer shirt and got a firsthand reminder of just how much work it takes to keep athletes moving safely through swim, bike, and run events. After surviving GPS confusion, a packed race morning, and a blazing-hot aid station shift, the episode shifts to the other side of the table and why every runner should volunteer at least once. Then it is back to Smithville Lake for the Lunartic 5K, a Friday night point-to-point race with school buses, shoe chips, glow-in-the-dark medals, headlamps, lake views, surprise hills, and enough bugs to qualify as on-course protein. From there, we head to Parkville for the Heat Wave Half Marathon at English Landing Park, where the course was familiar, the humidity was rude, and the final miles got spicy once the sun climbed over the trees. Kyle also talks about stopping mid-race to help get assistance for a runner who went down on course, because even when the clock is ticking, runners look out for runners. Despite the heat, the late-race fade, and the extra energy spent sprinting for help, the day still ended with a Heat Wave finish, a spinning medal, and a surprise first-place age group award. We also look ahead to K-State Night at Chasing Rabbits Run Club, the return of Garmin Kansas City Marathon Night on August 20, and the continued march toward Sydney. It is a full catch-up episode packed with race stories, volunteer lessons, glow-in-the-dark weirdness, summer suffering, and the kind of decisions that only make sense when you are already signed up.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, we wrap up our July Why Are We Like This? series with Volunteering for the Chaos. After spending the month talking about the wonderfully strange things runners and endurance athletes do, we finish by looking at the people who help make race day happen. This episode takes us to the Matt Mason Cowboy Up Triathlon, where volunteering at an aid station turned into a front-row seat to heat, hydration, grit, gratitude, confusion, and full-on endurance chaos. We talk about what it is like to be on the other side of the cup, helping athletes get what they need and watching the race unfold from a completely different angle. Races do not happen by magic, and this episode is a reminder of how much volunteers matter to every start line, finish line, aid station, course turn, and athlete experience. We also dig into how volunteering can make us better runners, better race participants, and better members of the endurance community. There is plenty of triathlon talk, a few wild aid station moments, and a lot of appreciation for the people who show up so others can chase their goals. At the heart of it all is the reminder that every athlete deserves the same support, whether they are first, last, or somewhere beautifully in between. Why are we like this? Because sometimes the best way to love the sport is not crossing the finish line, but helping someone else get there.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we are joined by longtime friends of the show for one of our favorite annual conversations: The 2026 Rexy Run Preview. The Rexy Run 5K & 10K is coming up on August 15, 2026, in Lawrence, Kansas, and this race continues to be one of the most meaningful events on our calendar. Race director Kristina, Erica from Baby Jay’s Legacy of Hope, and Colby, the mother of this year’s Honorary Rexy, join us to talk about the race, the mission, and the family at the heart of this year’s event. Rexy Run benefits Baby Jay’s Legacy of Hope, a Lawrence-based 501(c)(3) that helps families with children going through cancer treatment by offering support for real-life needs like gas, groceries, utilities, travel expenses, and more. This year’s event brings back the family-friendly race day atmosphere runners have come to love, along with a new 10K course, food trucks, cinnamon rolls, finisher medals, handmade awards, kids activities, and plenty of reasons to make the drive to Broken Arrow Park. But more than anything, this episode is about why this race matters, who it helps, and how showing up for a 5K or 10K can make a real difference for families walking through something no family should have to face alone. Whether you run, walk, volunteer, donate, cheer, or simply help spread the word, Rexy Run is a race worth putting on your calendar. Listen to the episode, hear the story, and then go get yourself registered for Rexy Run.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, our July series Why Are We Like This? continues with a topic every runner eventually meets: FOMO, the fear of missing out. Runners and endurance athletes love filling the calendar with races, run clubs, team events, traditions, medals, group photos, and shared suffering, but sooner or later, life gets in the way. Whether it is a scheduling conflict, family responsibility, injury, illness, weather, travel, burnout, or simply needing rest, sometimes we do not make it to the start line. This episode digs into the emotional weirdness of a DNS, or Did Not Start, and why missing a race can feel like everyone else went to summer camp without us. We talk about registration guilt, medal FOMO, social media FOMO, group photo FOMO, and the way runners can convince themselves that missing one race somehow means they are less committed. Spoiler: it does not. Sometimes the smartest race decision is not showing up, especially when another responsibility, another priority, or the bigger picture needs to come first. We also look at the race calendar problem, because runners have a special talent for seeing an open Saturday and immediately trying to turn it into a bib number. At the heart of the episode is a reminder that races are supposed to be fun, not mandatory life sentences with finish-line bananas. The running community will still be there next weekend, next month, and next year. Missing one start line does not erase the miles, memories, consistency, or commitment already built.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, Kyle calls an audible from the planned episode to mark a milestone that changed the entire direction of his life: the ten-year anniversary of his first open-heart surgery. For longtime listeners, this is a story that has been referenced many times, but for newer members of the Back of the Pack community, this may be the first time hearing how a heart condition, a failed valve, and two surgeries became part of the foundation for everything that came after. Kyle looks back on the dreams that changed, the warning signs that could not be ignored, the doctors who made all the difference, and the moments from 2016 that still remain impossible to forget. This episode is honest, personal, emotional, and at times surprisingly funny, because sometimes survival stories come with scars, hospital gowns, bad timing, and a few memories that still feel unreal ten years later. More than anything, this is a reflection on what it means to keep going when life interrupts the plan in the biggest way possible. From the first steps after surgery to the long road back toward racing, this story helps explain the runner, the podcast, and the stubborn refusal to let one defective valve write the ending. Ten years later, Kyle is still here, still moving, still telling the story, and still probably fine. Join us for a very personal episode about the heart behind the miles.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast: Second Wind, our July series Why Are We Like This? continues with a look at the social side of endurance sports. Runners and endurance athletes bond over some very strange things: hills, heat, porta-potties, chafing, finish lines, race medals, bad decisions, and the phrase “never again” even though we are absolutely going to do it again. This episode dives into how shared suffering can create fast friendships, whether it happens during a rough race, on a brutal hill, at mile 10 of a half marathon, or through the shared heartbreak and celebration of something like London Marathon lottery day. We talk about the race friend pipeline, where strangers become familiar faces, familiar faces become running buddies, and running buddies become road trip partners, run club regulars, post-race beer companions, and family. There is also plenty of love for the post-race story economy, because runners trade tales of heat, hills, blisters, bathroom emergencies, forgotten registrations, and miserable races like sacred currency. We also dig into endurance peer pressure, group bad ideas, FOMO, and why “come on, it’ll be fun” has probably caused more suffering than most training plans. But this episode also reminds us that life outside the miles still matters, whether that means concerts, lake weekends, family obligations, recovery, or simply putting the Garmin down for a while. Finally, we look at why run clubs work, especially places like Chasing Rabbits Run Club, where the miles matter, but the conversations afterward may matter even more. Why are we like this? Because somewhere between the miles, the misery, the medals, the group photos, and the parking lot conversations, we found our people.

This week on The Back of the Pack Podcast, we recap one of the hardest and strangest endurance weekends of the year: the Argo Half Marathon and Kyle’s first official bike race, Lizard Under the Skillet. First up is Argo, the infamous “finishers only” half marathon on Argo Road, where the hills are rude, the sun is merciless, and the shirt at the end is earned the hard way. With a 9:00 a.m. July start, full sun, 60% humidity, a dew point of 71, and a finishing heat index of 102 degrees, this year’s Argo was even nastier than expected. Kyle walks through the brutal out-and-back course, the repeated trips past the cooler, the lifesaving water stops and misters, the climb up Slaughter Hill, and the final push to earn the fluorescent finisher shirt. Despite the heat, the hills, and the general “why did we do this again?” energy, Kyle finished four minutes faster than last year, proving that even tiny victories on a monstrous course deserve celebration. Then, less than 24 hours later, it was off to Lawrence, Kansas for the Lizard Under the Skillet ride with the Lawrence Bicycle Club and Kyle’s first official bike event. The 31-mile Gecko distance brought country roads, bike etiquette lessons, SAG stops, one very important helmet-wearing rubber duck named Crash, and a whole new appreciation for padded shorts. From scorching hills to sore legs, numb bike-seat regrets, and the realization that Argo followed by a bike race may not be the smartest scheduling choice, this episode is a full weekend of bad ideas that somehow turned into big wins.