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Psychology & The Cross

Published by Jungian Analyst Jakob Lusensky

  • Philosophy
  • Society & culture
  • Religion & spirituality
  • Christianity

Jungian analyst Jakob Lusensky engages in dialogue and research at the intersection of depth psychology and Christianity, exploring what it means to become more fully human in our time. Join the conversation on our Substack page. https://open.substack.com/pub/centerofthecross

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  1. Jung, Nietzsche and Zarathustra: The Challenge of Transformation with Paul Bishop from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Aug 23, 20261 hr 4 min

    In this episode, Jungian scholar Paul Bishop joins Jungian analyst-in-training Emma Iovoli to explore Nietzsche’s Thus Spoke Zarathustra and C.G. Jung’s complex relationship with Nietzsche. Drawing on Bishop’s recent book, Jung and the Epic of Transformation, Volume 3 , they explore some of Zarathustra’s most powerful images, from the eagle and serpent to the camel, lion and child, and what they reveal about psychological transformation. The conversation moves from Jung and Nietzsche’s encounters with the depths of the psyche to Christianity, the death of God, and the question of what transformation might mean today. In an age of AI and post-humanism, what does it mean to overcome ourselves without losing sight of what it means to be human? Purchase Paul Bishops latest book. The music played in this episode is licensed under creativecommons.org: Ketsa - From deep down

  2. Can the Self Be Known? A Conversation with Donald Carveth from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Jul 17, 202637 min

    What is the goal of psychoanalysis? Is it greater self-knowledge, or the recovery of our capacity simply to be? In this third Freudian/Jungian conversation with psychoanalyst Donald Carveth we explore Winnicott's notion of the true self alongside Jung's understanding of the Self, individuation, and the religious attitude. We discuss conscience and the superego, the image of God ( imago Dei ), love, community, and why Jung increasingly turned toward Christianity in his later work. The two earlier Freudian/Jungian conversations are found here and here . For more psychoanalytic thinking visit Don's youtube page. The music played in this episode is licensed under creativecommons.org: Ketsa - From deep down

  3. Becoming Human in the Age of AI - A conversation with Sean McGrath from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Jun 23, 20261 hr 0 min

    Pope Leo XIV's Magnifica Humanitas may be one of the most important reflections yet on artificial intelligence and the future of humanity. In this conversation, Jakob Lusensky and Sean McGrath explore the encyclical's central question: What does it mean to be human in an age of AI? Along the way they discuss Jung, technology, transhumanism, work, community, suffering, and why a human face that asks to be gazed upon may remain at the center of our history. The music played in this episode is licensed under creativecommons.org: Ketsa - From deep down

  4. Magnifica Humanitas by Leo XIV - The introduction from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Jun 11, 202621 min

    This is a reading of the introduction to Magnifica - Humanitas - On Safeguarding the human person in the time of Artificial Intelligenc e, by Pope Leo XIV. For the full encyclical visit the following link. Join the live stream conversation with Sean McGrath about this text Wednesday 17th of June at 3:15 pm CES T on this link. The reading of the introduction is done by Emma Lovoli , Jungian analyst in training at ISAP. You can read her Substack here.

  5. Emma Jung with Ann Conrad Lammers from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Jun 6, 202643 min

    After our excursion along the currents of our collective dreams, we now turn our attention back to Psychology on the Cross . For this conversation, I invited Jungian scholar Ann Conrad Lammers to discuss Emma Jung: Dedicated to the Soul , a book she recently edited together with Thomas Fischer and Medea Hoch. It's a wonderful book that brings Emma out of Carl Jung's shadow, revealing the full range of her creative work through essays, poems, dreams, and paintings. Throughout this conversation, Ann will also read a poem and two dreams from this important publication. Biography Ann Conrad Lammers is a Jungian scholar who has worked and written at the crossroads of theology and psychology for the past forty years. Her doctoral work at Yale University led to the book In God's Shadow: The Collaboration of Victor White and C.G. Jung , and she is also the editor of their correspondence. An earlier conversation about this book can be found here. Music played in this episode"From deep down" by ketsa.uk. Licensed under creativecommons.org by NC-ND 4.0.

  6. Was it just a Dream? | The spirit in the cloud from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Mar 28, 202624 min

    In the final episode of the first wave of Was it just a dream?, the outside world folds inward, everything condensing toward a single point, triggering a shocking realization. Share your own commentary and read the full dream on our Substack page. Music: It was just a dream by Rafael Krux. Courtesy of the Krux Music Publishing Limited Company.

  7. Was it just a Dream? | Collective commentary from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Mar 17, 20266 min

    Our last dream received some thoughtful commentary from listeners. We decided to put together some of these as extra material. Read the full dream here . Music: It was just a dream by Rafael Krux. Courtesy of the Krux Music Publishing Limited Company.

  8. Was it just a Dream? | Looking the other way from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Mar 8, 202616 min

    In the sixth episode of Was it just a dream? , we find ourselves in a church, looking the other way. Share your own commentary and read the full dream on our Substack page. Music: It was just a dream by Rafael Krux. Courtesy of the Krux Music Publishing Limited Company.

  9. Was it just a Dream? | The Raven from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Feb 14, 202621 min

    In the fifth episode of Was it just a dream? , we find ourselves at sea in the Middle Ages. A raven lands on deck and transforms. What is it asking of us? Share your own commentary and read the full dream on our Substack page. Reference to Albrecht Dürer's medieval engraving Knight, Death and the Devil. Music: It was just a dream by Rafael Krux. Courtesy of the Krux Music Publishing Limited Company.

  10. Was it just a Dream? | I want to help from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Jan 30, 202622 min

    In this fourth episode of Was it just a dream? , we're discussing a dream we received as a response to previous dreams. It again involves cutting. Share your own commentary and read the full dream on our Substack page. Music: It was just a dream by Rafael Krux. Courtesy of the Krux Music Publishing Limited Company.

  11. Was it just a Dream? | How can this be done unto me? from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Jan 17, 202623 min

    In this third episode of Was it just a dream? , we are faced with catastrophe, and learn something about the creative response to it. The name “Edward” comes from an Anglo-Saxon name which literally means “guardian or protector of wealth”. Share your own commentary and read the full dream on our Substack page. Music: It was just a dream by Rafael Krux. Courtesy of the Krux Music Publishing Limited Company.

  12. Was it just a Dream? | The Fish from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Jan 3, 202623 min

    In this second episode of Was it just a dream? , we’re invited to follow the symbol of the fish. We’re inviting the fish to remain a fish, to swim swiftly, hard to grasp a hold of, turn into a concept, as we ask what kind of consciousness it might ask the dreamer, and us as dreamers to develop. Share your own commentary and read the full dream on our Substack page. Music: It was just a dream by Rafael Krux. Courtesy of the Krux Music Publishing Limited Company.

  13. Was it just a Dream? | I don't want to hurt you from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Dec 21, 202525 min

    The first episode of our new podcast series, Was it just a Dream? , is titled “I Don’t Want to Hurt You.” Listen to the dream, and you will understand why. If you’d like to read the full dream or comment on it, go to our Substack page. Music: It was just a dream by Rafael Krux. Courtesy of the Krux Music Publishing Limited Company.

  14. New podcast | Was it just a dream? from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Dec 17, 202511 min

    Have you had a dream that stayed with you — one that felt larger than your own life? This is an invitation to join Jungian analysts Cécile Buckenmeyer and Jakob Lusensky in the experiment of shaping a holding space for collective dreams. The new podcast Was it just a dream? is devoted to those big dreams that C.G. Jung described as “the common property of mankind” (CW 10 §33), the deep streams of the delta that is the unconscious. By gathering these dreams, we may glimpse what our culture is dreaming beneath the surface, the myths that are forming us, and the ones asking to be born. Co-create our new podcast by submitting your dream before December 31st. Credits: --- Artwork: Iraq (Babylonia). Euphrates River , fisherman throwing net, sunset scene Music: It was just a dream by Rafael Krux Literature: The Third Reich of Dreams by Charlotte Beradt

  15. E27 The Lost Road with Sean McGrath from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Dec 12, 202547 min

    In this episode, I speak with Sean McGrath about his new book The Lost Road - A Search for the Soul of the West , a spiritual autobiography and a philosophical meditation on the soul of the West. Moving between personal narrative and cultural diagnosis, McGrath traces how the ancient fusion of Greek contemplation and Jewish revelation formed the heart of Western spirituality, how that inheritance fractured into secular modernity, and why consumerism has become our age’s dominant, and destructive, false religion. I hope you will enjoy this conversation as much as I did! The book is available as e-book and paperback on the publisher Collective Inks website.

  16. The world hangs on a thin thread from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Sep 25, 20255 min

    Audio clip from the film, "Matter of Heart," (1986) directed, edited, and produced by Mark Whitney, conceived and written by Suzanne Wagner, executive producer George Wagner. C.G. Jung: The world hangs on a thin thread, and that is the psyche of man. Nowadays we are not threatened by elementary catastrophes. There is no such thing [in nature] as an H-bomb; that is all man's doing. WE are the great danger. The psyche is the great danger. What if something goes wrong with the psyche? You see, and so it is demonstrated to us in our days what the power of the psyche is of man, how important it is to know something about it. But we know nothing about it. Nobody would give credit to the idea that the psychical processes of the ordinary man have any importance whatever. One thinks, "Oh, he has just what he has in his head. He is all from his surroundings, he is taught such and such a thing, believes such and such a thing, and particularly if he is well housed and well fed, then he has no ideas at all." And that's the great mistake because he is just that as which he is born, and he is not born as "tabula rasa," but as a reality. Interviewer: Jung had a vision at the end of his life of a catastrophe. It was a world catastrophe. Marie-Louise von Franz: I don't want to speak much about it. One of his daughters took notes and after his death gave it to me, and there is a drawing with a line going up and down, and underneath is "the last 50 years of humanity." And some remarks about a final catastrophe being ahead. But I have only those notes. Interviewer: What is your own feeling about it, the world situation? von Franz: Well, one's whole feeling revolts against this idea but since I have those notes in a drawer, I don't allow myself to be too optimistic. I think, well, we have always had wars and enormous catastrophies, and I have no more personal fear much about that. I mean at my age, if you have anyhow soon to go— so or so egocentrically spoken. But the beauty of all the life— to think that the billions and billions and billions of years of evolution to build up the plants and the animals and the whole beauty of nature— and that man would go out of sheer shadow foolishness and destroy it all. I mean that all life might go from the the planet. And we don't know— on Mars and Venus there is no life; we don't know if there is any life experiment elsewhere in the galaxies. And we go and destroy this. I think it is so abominable. I try to pray that it may not happen— that a miracle happens. Interviewer: Do you find that young people that you see now are aware of that? That it's in their consciousness? von Franz: Yes it's partly in their unconscious and partly in their consciousness, and I think in a very dangerous way, namely, in a way of giving up and running away into a fantasy world. You know, when you study science fiction, you see there's always the fantasy of escaping to some other planet and begin anew again, which means give up the battle on this earth, consider it hopeless and give up. I think one shouldn't give up, because if you think of [Jung's book] Answer to Job, if man would wrestle with God, if man would tell God that he shouldn't do it, if we would reflect more. That why reflection comes in. Jung never thought that we might do better than just possibly sneak round the corner with not too big a catastrophe. When I saw him last, he had also a vision while I was with him, but there he said, "I see enormous stretches devastated, enormous stretches of the earth. But, thank God it's not the whole planet." I think that if not more people try to reflect and take back their projections and take the opposites within themselves, there will be a total destruction.

  17. Is psychoanalysis a path to salvation? A conversation with Donald Carveth from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Aug 5, 202551 min

    Is psychoanalysis a path to salvation? In this second Freudian/Jungian dialogue I ponder this provocative question together with psychoanalyst Donald Carveth. For more psychoanalytic thinking visit Don's youtube page.

  18. S4E4 Secular Christ | What is Spirit? from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    Jun 8, 202523 min

    In the fourth and final season of Secular Christ, Sean McGrath introduces his ideas around everyday Christian Mysticism.

  19. S4E3 Secular Christ | The Mysticism of Paul the Apostle from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    May 23, 202527 min

    In the fourth and final season of Secular Christ, Sean McGrath introduces his ideas around everyday Christian Mysticism.

  20. S4E2 Secular Christ | Christian mysticism demystified from Psychology & The Cross, opens in a new tab

    May 8, 202531 min

    In the fourth and final season of Secular Christ, Sean McGrath introduces his ideas around everyday Christian Mysticism.

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