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She Runs Ultras

Published by Meghan Gould

  • Health & fitness
  • Sports
  • Running

She Runs Ultras is about (yup, you guessed it) running ultras. Lots of other running podcasts out there are full of gear & race reviews and interviews with the experts telling unrelatable stories about their record breaking times and super human feats. Now…don’t get me wrong, I’ve learned some great stuff from those podcasts...But what about those of us that aren’t getting paid to do this?Those of us that are mid to back of the pack runners?And those of us that have never won a damn thing? What was out there for us? Yeah, I couldn’t find it - so I decided to make it! And it just so happens that I’m getting geared up to start training for some races in 2021. So throughout this series, I’ll share what really happens when a typical, non-professional runner takes on the challenge of running an ultra. Got some races planned for this year? Let’s train together.From the emotional & physical ups and downs, to the details of my actual training plan, and the excitement (not to mention nerves) that build as race day gets closer...I promise not to hold anything back. So whether you’re already a member of the ultra community or if you’re just ultra curious...Hit subscribe and let’s do this!

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  1. Ep. 344 - How I'd Coach You Through Your First 50k

    Sep 11, 202639 min

    In this episode, I’m walking you through the same coaching process I use inside the She Runs Ultras membership. We’ll define your destination, take an honest look at your starting point, identify the biggest constraint standing between you and your goal, and organize your priorities into what to focus on now, build next, address later, and ignore for the time being. This process will help you create the clarity, consistency, and confidence you need to keep moving toward your first 50K without getting overwhelmed by everything you think you “should” be doing. Applications for the She Runs Ultras coaching membership are open through September 30, 2026. You’ll also find links to my free 8-Week Base Building Plan and Run Your First 50K Facebook group in the show notes. 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  2. Ep. 343 - Two Unconventional Tips For Choosing Your First 50k

    Sep 4, 202617 min

    Choosing your first 50K can feel like a catch-22: how do you choose a race that matches your abilities when you’ve never run that distance before? In this episode, I’m sharing two unconventional tips to help you choose a first 50K that gives you a fair opportunity to succeed. We’ll talk about why you shouldn’t stack too many “firsts” into one race and why your first 50K should give you enough room to make mistakes, adjust, and learn as you go. You don’t need to find the easiest race or guarantee your finish. You need to choose a challenge that allows you to be a successful beginner! 😎 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  3. Ep. 342 - 9 Signs You're Ready To Train For Your First 50k

    Aug 28, 202630 min

    Are you ready to start training for a 50K or do you still feel like you need to become a stronger, faster, more experienced runner first? In this episode, I’m sharing nine signs that you may be ready to begin training for your first 50K. We’ll talk about the difference between being ready to train for the distance and being ready to run it today, why you don’t need to have everything figured out before you start, and which qualities matter more than speed or weekly mileage. You’ll learn how consistency, available training time, recovery, fueling, walking, and your willingness to learn all factor into your readiness. And if you discover you’re not quite ready yet, you’ll know exactly what to work on next! You don’t need absolute confidence or proof that you can already cover the distance. You need an honest starting point, enough time to prepare, and a willingness to do the work. 😎 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  4. Ep. 341 - If You Can Run 25k, Then You Can Do 50k!

    Aug 21, 202645 min

    If you’ve completed a 25K and you’re wondering whether you could ever run a 50K, this episode is for you! In the first episode of my new 25K to 50K series, we’re talking about why a 50K isn’t simply “twice as hard,” the skills you’ve already developed that will transfer to ultrarunning, and the new skills you’ll build during training. I’ll also explain the difference between being ready to run a 50K and being ready to begin training for one, why you don’t need to get faster at the 25K distance first, and why you shouldn’t wait until you feel completely confident to consider signing up. Running your first 50K doesn’t require you to become an entirely different runner. It requires expansion—not reinvention. If you’re ready to start building a stronger foundation, download my free eight-week base-building plan using the link below. And if Facebook is your thing, come join the Run Your First 50K Facebook group for additional support, encouragement, and conversation. 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  5. Ep. 340 - OMG It's Happening Everybody Stay Calm!

    Aug 14, 202628 min

    📣 Big news: I’m hosting my very own ultra in October 2027! In this episode, I’m sharing what I’ve decided so far, why I chose a timed race on a looped course, and how this format will help women make the leap into ultras without the pressure of traditional distances and cutoffs. I’ll also be documenting the entire process of creating this event and inviting you to help shape it along the way. If you’ve been waiting until you feel completely ready to do something big, this episode is your reminder: you don’t have to know exactly how it will work before you begin. 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  6. Ep. 339 - The Truth About Social Media That Every Ultra Runner Needs To Hear

    Aug 7, 202629 min

    What if more than half of the accounts you're seeing online aren't even real? In this episode, I'm talking about a statistic that completely changed the way I think about social media and why every runner should think twice before accepting training advice, motivation, or inspiration from the internet at face value. I also share why I've intentionally chosen not to fill this podcast with sponsorships, affiliate deals, or ads, and why protecting the trust of this community will always matter more to me than chasing another revenue stream. If you've ever wondered who you should actually listen to when it comes to your training, this episode is for you. 😎 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  7. Ep. 338 - The Banner That *Almost* Started An Argument

    Jul 31, 202623 min

    What if one of the biggest things holding you back as a runner isn't your fitness... ...it's your thinking? In this episode, I'm sharing a funny story from my small New Hampshire town that turned into a much bigger coaching lesson about tradition, assumptions, and why "we've always done it that way" might be one of the most limiting phrases in endurance sports. If you've ever found yourself wondering whether there's a better way to train, recover, or prepare for your races, this episode is for you. In this episode, you'll learn: Why tradition isn't always the best guide. How unquestioned beliefs can quietly hold back your progress. The difference between doing something because it's familiar versus because it works. A simple question to ask yourself that can improve every part of your training. If this episode gets you thinking, I'd love to hear from you. Send me a DM on Instagram @sherunsultras or reply to this week's email and tell me: What's one thing in your training you've been doing simply because "that's how you've always done it?" 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  8. Ep. 337 - 10 Things That Make Me Nervous As A Coach

    Jul 24, 202627 min

    After nearly a decade of coaching ultrarunners, I've started to notice certain patterns that immediately make me pay closer attention. They're not guarantees that something will go wrong...but they are red flags that often lead to injury, burnout, missed goals, or unnecessary frustration if they're ignored. In this episode, I'm sharing the 10 things that make me nervous as a coach—from blindly following a training plan and making huge jumps in mileage to being afraid to walk, obsessing over missed runs, and chasing the next magic bullet. If you're training for your first (or farthest) ultra, this episode will help you identify potential blind spots before they become bigger problems. In this episode, you'll learn: Why "just following the plan" isn't always the best strategy The training mistakes that most often lead to injury or burnout How fear quietly influences your training decisions Why consistency beats perfection every time When it's time to ask for help before things blow up If you'd like a second set of experienced eyes on your training, check out Training Plan Triage, my personalized review service designed to help you catch potential issues before they derail your race. 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  9. Ep. 336 - Go Before You're Ready

    Jul 17, 202620 min

    If you are not attempting things before you feel 100% ready, then you're missing out! This week's episode is based around the idea that you need to: "Go Before You Are Ready" in order to accomplish your ultra goals. Waiting until you're confident in your ability will result in you waiting indefinitely. Cue this up for your next workout and really embrace this idea in ONE SMALL WAY today, and then again tomorrow, and the day after that, and so on and so forth. 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  10. Ep. 335 - Stop Borrowing Other People's Beliefs & Do This Instead!

    Jul 10, 202628 min

    Ever notice how the people around you have plenty of opinions about your ultra running? In this episode, I'm sharing a simple encounter with a bear in my neighborhood that turned into a powerful coaching lesson about fear, beliefs, and why so many runners unknowingly carry around stories that aren't actually their own. In this episode, we cover: Why the same situation can lead to completely different reactions based on our beliefs. How friends, family, social media, and even other runners unknowingly pass their limiting beliefs onto us. The importance of questioning where your thoughts about training, aging, injury, and performance actually came from. How separating facts from borrowed beliefs can completely change your training and your confidence. Remember: Just because someone hands you a belief doesn't mean you have to carry it. 😎 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  11. Ep. 334 - Become A Better Runner With Strength & Mobility featuring Sian Milne of The Movement Cave

    Jul 3, 20261 hr 10 min

    This week I'm chatting with my friend, Sian Milne, about strength & mobility for runners. Sian is a former stunt woman for the film industry turned strength & mobility coach, and a runner on top of that! So she knows a thing or two about bodies and how to keep them strong and resilient. The biggest takeaway that I hope you get from this episode is this: You cannot become a stronger runner by just running. There will come a point when you'll hit a barrier, and the only way to break through is with strength & mobility. Enjoy! 📸 Follow Sian on Instagram 📸 Follow The Movement Cave on Instagram 🎥 Check out The Movement Cave on YouTube 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  12. Ep. 333 - There's Always Going To Be Something...

    Jun 26, 202626 min

    We're officially halfway through the year...so how's your training going? Whether your goal race is just around the corner or still months away, now is the perfect time to pause and check in. In this episode, I'm sharing a simple mindset shift that has completely changed the way I approach ultra training—and it's one I think every runner needs to hear. If you've been waiting for the "perfect" stretch of training with no aches, no schedule conflicts, and no life interruptions...you're going to be waiting forever. Because here's the truth: There's always going to be something. Let's talk about how accepting that reality can help you stay consistent, keep your momentum, and stop letting every setback feel like the end of your training cycle. 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  13. Ep. 332 - Hypnosis Night Race Recap

    Jun 19, 202626 min

    Last weekend, I headed to Arizona to crew and coach a handful of She Runs Ultras athletes at the Hypnosis Night Race - an overnight trail event put on Aravaipa Running. The conditions were brutal: triple-digit temperatures, relentless wind, blowing sand, and miles of technical desert terrain in the dark. In this episode, we're talking about: What it was like to race through the Arizona desert at night Why every ultrarunner will eventually face a DNF The question I asked that completely changed how one athlete viewed her race Why finish lines aren't the only measure of success The hidden value of a DNF—and why it might be one of the most important experiences you can have as an ultrarunner Because sometimes the biggest win isn't crossing the finish line. Sometimes it's walking away with lessons, skills, and experience you'll carry into every race that comes after. Links & Resources Hypnosis Night Race: https://www.aravaiparunning.com/insomniac/hypnosis/ Want to hear more about DNFs? Listen to Episode 11. Interested in joining us at The Mamba in Tennessee this November? Check out Episode 305 with race director James Boler. Remember: A DNF isn't a disaster. It's a learning experience. 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  14. Ep. 331 - The 10 Training Plan Commandments

    Jun 12, 202636 min

    In this episode, I'm sharing my 10 Training Plan Commandments. The rules I've learned after years of coaching athletes and watching the same training mistakes show up over and over again. In this episode, we'll cover: Why adding extra workouts can derail your progress What to do when you miss a run How to stop overreacting to one bad workout Why your easy runs should actually be easy The role recovery plays in making a training plan work How comparison can pull you away from your own training Why the most effective training habits are usually the least exciting How to stop negotiating with yourself when it's time to train What happens during the taper and why you shouldn't panic Why enjoying the process matters if you want to make it to race day If you've ever questioned your fitness, worried that you're not doing enough, or felt tempted to rewrite your training plan halfway through a training cycle, this episode is for you. 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  15. Ep. 330 - Is Your Environment Holding You Back? Here's What You Can Do About It

    Jun 5, 202630 min

    Most runners think they need more motivation, discipline, or a better training plan. But what if the bigger factor is the environment you're training in? In this episode, Meghan explores how the people around you, the content you consume, and the systems you've built into your life can either support your ultra goals or make them harder than they need to be. In this episode: • How the people around you shape what feels possible • Why consistency has more to do with environment than motivation • The hidden impact of social media, podcasts, and online communities • Practical ways to create an environment that supports your goals • Why you don't have to figure out ultrarunning on your own If you're training for your first or farthest ultra, this episode is for you. 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  16. Ep. 329 - 5 Tips If You Think You Need to Run the Full Distance Before Race Day

    May 29, 202631 min

    A lot of runners (especially first-time 50k runners) feel like they need to run the full race distance before race day just to prove they can do it. In this episode, I’m breaking down why I don’t recommend that approach… but also sharing how I’d coach someone through it if they were absolutely dead set on doing it anyway 🙃 We’re talking about: why timing matters more than you think the difference between a race simulation and an actual race how to avoid turning one long run into a recovery disaster why “harder” isn’t always smarter and why leaving a little mystery for race day might actually help you perform better If you’ve ever caught yourself thinking, “I just need to know I can do it…” this episode is for you. 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  17. Ep. 328 - How To Get Off The Fence About Signing Up For That Race

    May 22, 202614 min

    In this episode, I'm sharing some behind-the-scenes coaching with one of my long term clients and the way that she made the decision about whether or not to enter the Cocodona 250 lottery for 2027. 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  18. Ep. 327 - Cocodona Made You Sign Up for an Ultra…Now What?

    May 15, 202637 min

    Caught up in the excitement of the coverage and impulsively signed up for an ultra? 😅 You are definitely not alone. In this episode I’m talking about the very real “OH SH*T” moment that can happen after the adrenaline wears off and the reality of training starts to sink in. We’ll walk through 6 important things to think about before you panic-cancel your race registration — including timelines, training readiness, schedule realities, fears, mindset, and why that spark of inspiration matters more than you think. If you recently signed up for your first ultra (or you’re seriously thinking about it), this episode will help you slow down, get grounded, and figure out your next best step. 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  19. Ep. 326 - The Hoodie I Didn't Earn...Or Did I?

    May 8, 202619 min

    In this episode, I’m talking about something a lot of runners believe and that is you only “earn” the right to wear race gear if you finish. After my DNF at the Moab 240 in 2025, I couldn’t bring myself to wear the hoodie I bought at the race. It sat in my closet for months because, in my mind, I hadn’t “earned” it. But over time, my perspective shifted. This episode is about what that hoodie represents now. More importantly, I talk about: Why DNFs aren’t something to be afraid of How setbacks can actually sharpen your approach And why nothing in this sport comes easy (even when you think you’re prepared) If you’ve ever struggled with a race that didn’t go your way, this one’s for you. 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

  20. Ep. 325 - Sleep Deprivation Training: Is That Really a Thing?

    May 1, 202624 min

    With races like the Arizona Monster and Cocodona 250 bringing overnight running into focus, this episode tackles a common question: should you train for sleep deprivation? Short answer: no. Sleep deprivation isn’t a trainable skill. It doesn’t improve performance and it comes with real downsides like poor decision-making, slower reaction time, increased injury risk, and reduced recovery. Instead, focus on what does help: Build skills (running in the dark, using your gear, managing effort, mental toughness) Get strategic exposure (early mornings, post-sunset runs, occasional overnight efforts without forcing sleep loss) We also cover how to handle the “witching hour” (2–5 AM) and why being well-rested, fueled, and properly tapered matters more than trying to “practice” exhaustion. 🏃🏻‍♀️ GET MY FREE 8-WEEK BASE BUILDING TRAINING PLAN 🔥 APPLY FOR MY GROUP COACHING PROGRAM 📈 BOOK A TRAINING PLAN TRIAGE ➡️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN MY PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP 📸 FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 📝 IF I HELPED YOU RUN YOUR FIRST ULTRA, FILL OUT THIS FORM

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