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Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning

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Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning is a podcast from the Columbia University Center for Teaching and Learning. Our mission is to encourage instructors, students, and leaders in higher education to reflect on what they believe about teaching and learning.

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  1. What Five Years of Listening to Students Taught Us About Learning. A Conversation with Chris Gallagher, Kristi Girdharry, and Kevin Smith from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Sep 17, 202638 min

    For five years, Chris Gallagher, Kristi Girdharry, and Kevin Smith sat down each semester with the same set of twenty Northeastern University students. What began as an analysis of these students’ writing skills evolved into a book on how students often understand the learning process more clearly than faculty recognize. Gallagher, Girdharry, and Smith's new book, Getting Learning Right: The Promise of Higher Education, takes aim at some of the myths that circulate in public discourse about college - that students enroll simply for the credential or that everything can be learned online, for example. In this episode, we focus instead on what the students themselves had to say about their own undergraduate experience. These anecdotes and the insights they provide might just be the inspiration we need to reshape the future of higher education. Learn more about our guests’ new publication, Getting Learning Right: The Promise of Higher Education (MIT Press). Other articles mentioned in this conversation: “ Not Just Another AI Statement: Modeling Process and Collaboration in Higher Education ” (Inside Higher Ed)

  2. Bonus Episode: Reimagining Teaching and Learning in the Age of AI. A Conversation with Columbia University Students. from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Mar 26, 202629 min

    In this special bonus episode, we step away from our typical one-on-one interview format to share excerpts from a student panel that our host Amanda Irvin moderated at the recent "Reimagining Teaching and Learning in the Age of AI" Forum. This event was a joint effort coordinated by the Columbia Center for Teaching and Learning, the Data Science Institute, Columbia Alliance, the School of Engineering, and Teachers College. Four Columbia students, representing a range of disciplines, backgrounds, and relationships with AI, reflect candidly on what it's actually like to be a learner in this moment. They share how AI functions in their academic lives, what they wish faculty understood about their use of it, and what they need from instructors as the landscape continues to shift. The conversation is less a debate about AI and more an exploration about the relational fabric of learning. A full transcript with speaker attributions and bios, as well as a link to the video recording, are available in the show notes.

  3. AI Is Not Inevitable. A Conversation with Madisson Whitman from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Mar 12, 202632 min

    In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Madisson Whitman, Director of Undergraduate Studies and Assistant Director of Curriculum Development at Columbia University's Center for Science and Society, and Lecturer in the Department of Anthropology. Drawing on her work in Science and Technology Studies (STS), Whitman challenges one of the most pervasive assumptions of our moment: that AI in higher education is a foregone conclusion. In her recent letter to the editor in the Columbia Spectator, a student-run campus newspaper, Whitman offered a direct rebuttal to the sentiment that "AI is here to stay, so what does that mean for Columbia?" Instead, she invites us to resist the sense of "technological inevitability" that pervades so much of today's academic dialogue and to ask what we might be foreclosing when we don’t question AI’s presence in education. Together, we trace the through-lines between pandemic-era surveillance, "dysfunction creep," and the quiet ways AI is being folded into the learning management systems. We also consider what it looks like to teach with AI rather than through it. Dr. Whitman reminds us that progress is never as linear as it's sold. Educators must keep learning at the center of the conversation, even when urgency and marketing do their best to crowd it out. Other materials referenced in this episode: "AI Is Here to Stay: What Does That Mean for Columbia?" — Columbia Spectator "Letter to the Editor: AI Is Not Inevitable" — Madisson Whitman "A Rant About Technology" — Ursula K. Le Guin

  4. What Learning Looks Like: A Conversation with Lucy Appert from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Feb 26, 202628 min

    In this episode, we talk with Dr. Lucy Appert, Senior Director of Teaching Excellence & Innovation at NYU Arts & Science, and host of the new NYU Office of Teaching Excellence and Innovation’s podcast, What Learning Looks Like . As an academic with 25+ years of teaching experience and a deep commitment to student-centered practices, Lucy shared with us her insights on what learning truly means in an age of AI-driven "efficiency." Together, we discuss a key problem in higher education: while educators may accept the messy, developmental nature of learning, students are being marketed an idealized reality where AI-supplemented education is frictionless and instantaneous. The What Learning Looks Like podcast offers a counter-messaging to this misleading EdTech and AI marketing. Instead, true learning involves struggle, synthesis, and personal transformation. Lucy also challenges one of higher education's most persistent “Dead Ideas”: that we cannot change. From pandemic pivots to new faculty communities exploring AI in the classroom, it is clear that higher education is very capable of fluctuation and change. Explore the What Learning Looks Like podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-learning-looks-like/id1839490516 Other materials referenced in this episode: Learning Objectives & Bloom’s Taxonomy

  5. Teaching Pluralism in Higher Education. A Discussion with Mike Whitenton. from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Feb 12, 202624 min

    In this episode, we talk with Mike Whitenton, Director of Academic Initiatives at Interfaith America (IA). Mike works at the intersection of rhetoric, religious narrative, and cognitive science to help educators create classroom spaces where students can engage meaningfully across differences. Our conversation explores what pluralism means in practice and how it intersects with existing research and practice to foster inclusivity and belonging in the classroom. Mike introduces listeners to the three core principles of pluralism: Respect for diverse identities (even those that make us uncomfortable); Relate to those around us in a way that is genuine and mutually enriching; and Cooperate together in the service of the common good. Rather than avoiding disagreement, pluralism asks us to lean into it intentionally. In an educational environment, this means giving students structured opportunities to develop empathy, practice perspective-taking, and build bridges before they encounter real-world conflicts. By creating low-stakes opportunities for students to engage with divergent perspectives, we help them develop the skills they'll need long after they leave our classrooms. Learn more about Interfaith America: https://www.interfaithamerica.org/ Other materials referenced in this episode: Eck, D. L. (n.d.). The Pluralism Project. Harvard University. https://pluralism.org/ Ed Up Experience Podcast [Audio podcast]. https://www.edupexperience.com/ Interfaith America. (n.d.). Pedagogies for pluralism. https://www.interfaithamerica.org/resources/pedagogies-for-pluralism/ Interfaith America. (n.d.). Pluralism Texts Bibliography. https://www.interfaithamerica.org/resources/pluralism-texts-bibliography/ Interfaith America. (n.d.). Teaching & Learning Pluralism Cohort. https://www.interfaithamerica.org/grants/teaching-learning-pluralism-cohort/ Zangwill, I. (1909). The melting-pot: Drama in four acts. Macmillan.

  6. From Shame to Strength: Supporting ADHD Students. A Discussion with Karen Costa from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Jan 29, 202633 min

    Welcome to Season 11! In our opening episode, we sit down with Karen Costa, a faculty development facilitator specializing in online pedagogy, trauma awareness, and course/community design. Our conversation focused on her forthcoming book, An Educator's Guide to ADHD: Designing and Teaching for Student Success , to be published in January 2026. In this conversation, Karen challenges educators to rethink how we frame ADHD in the classroom. In reframing ADHD as a normal variant of the human experience rather than a disorder to be corrected, we can avoid ableist language that undermines our pedagogical aims in the classroom. Karen also shared practical strategies for supporting ADHD students, including offering multiple assignment formats and providing clear task lists and deadlines. Both of these approaches strike a delicate balance between creative freedom and helpful constraints in course design. Throughout our discussion, Karen reminds us that reducing shame in the classroom and celebrating students' diverse strengths may be the most powerful tools we have as educators. Learn more about Karen Costa’s work in her forthcoming book: Costa, K. (2026). An Educator's Guide to ADHD: Designing and Teaching for Student Success . Johns Hopkins University Press. Other materials referenced in this episode include: Costa, K. (2020). 99 Tips for Creating Simple and Sustainable Educational Videos: A Guide for Online Teachers and Flipped Classes . Routledge. Karen Costa’s website: https://www.100faculty.com/

  7. Are Students Knowledge Consumers or Co-Producers? A discussion on academic co-creation with Robert Gray from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Nov 6, 202525 min

    In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Robert Gray, Associate Professor of University Pedagogy at the University of Bergen in Norway, to explore a fundamental question about the purpose of higher education: should learning be an act of consumption or production? Maybe the best learning experiences don't simply ask students to absorb information—they invite students to actively re-write and co-create knowledge with the teacher. Dr. Gray's research draws on Roland Barthes' concepts of "readerly" and "writerly" texts, arguing that valuable learning happens when students are encouraged to "re-write" their classroom materials and become active producers of meaning. We discuss how students bring diverse perspectives and contexts to shared texts and lectures, creating something new and innovative from the materials we provide. As educators, we are challenged to foster an active, collaborative campus culture where learning becomes genuinely additive and co-creative. Learn more about Dr. Gray’s research in his article: “ Learning Is [Like] an Act of Writing: The Writerly Turn in Teaching and Learning in Higher Education ” Other materials referenced in this episode include: Barthes, R. (1975). The pleasure of the text (R. Miller, Trans.). Hill and Wang. (Original work published 1973).

  8. “Constitutively Irresponsible”: Why Students Can't Be GenAI's Quality Control. A conversation with Gene Flenady and Robert Sparrow. from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Oct 23, 202524 min

    This week, we have two guests on the podcast. We’re joined by Gene Flenady, Lecturer in Philosophy at Monash University, whose research concerns the structure and social conditions of human rational agency, including the implications of new technologies for meaningful work and tertiary pedagogy. Our second guest is Robert Sparrow, Professor of Philosophy at Monash University. His research interests include political philosophy and the ethics of science and technology with an eye towards real-world applications. Flenady and Sparrow argue that GenAI systems are "constitutively irresponsible" because their algorithms are designed to predict what "sounds good" - not necessarily what is true or contextually appropriate. Our guests suggest that it's unfair to expect learners themselves to determine when AI is wrong or misleading. Doing so puts students in an impossible position and gets in the way of building meaningful relationships with their human teachers and the pursuit of lifelong learning. Learn more about Drs. Flenady and Sparrow’s work in their article: “ Cut the bullshit: why GenAI systems are neither collaborators nor tutors ” Other materials referenced in this episode include: Frankfurt, H. G. (2005). On bullshit . Princeton University Press.

  9. Redefining Academic Integrity in the Age of AI with Phill Dawson from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Oct 9, 202517 min

    In this episode, we talk with Dr. Phill Dawson about how and why college students “cheat.” Phillip (Phill) Dawson is the Co-Director of the Centre for Research in Assessment and Digital Learning (CRADLE) at Deakin University. His research focuses on cheating, AI teaching assessments, and academic feedback tools. What counts as cheating? How does cheating shortchange students in their learning journeys and professional development? And perhaps most pressingly, how is AI changing our definition of “cheating” in higher education? Tune in to hear our thoughts on these and other questions in our conversation with Dr. Dawson.

  10. 880 Eyeballs: Mastering Active Learning in Large Classes with Justin Shaffer from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Sep 25, 202526 min

    Can you truly engage students in active learning when facing hundreds of faces in a lecture hall? We explore this challenge with Justin Shaffer, Founder of Recombinant Education, Associate Dean for Undergraduate Studies, and Teaching Professor in Chemical and Biological Engineering and Quantitative Biosciences and Engineering at the Colorado School of Mines. Dr. Shaffer shares insights on managing the intensity of teaching to "880 eyeballs" and reveals how highly structured course design transforms large classroom experiences. Together, we examine backwards design principles, effective assessment techniques, and practical classroom activities that enable educators to foster deeper student learning, even at scale. Learn more about Dr. Shaffer’s work in his publication - High Structure Course Design . Other materials referenced in this episode include: S. Freeman, S.L. Eddy, M. McDonough, M.K. Smith, N. Okoroafor, H. Jordt, & M.P. Wenderoth, Active learning increases student performance in science, engineering, and mathematics, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. U.S.A. 111 (23) 8410-8415, https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1319030111 (2014). E.J. Theobald, M.J. Hill, E. Tran, S. Agrawal, E.N. Arroyo, S. Behling, N. Chambwe, D.L. Cintrón, J.D. Cooper, G. Dunster, J.A. Grummer, K. Hennessey, J. Hsiao, N. Iranon, L. Jones, H. Jordt, M. Keller, M.E. Lacey, C.E. Littlefield, A. Lowe, S. Newman, V. Okolo, S. Olroyd, B.R. Peecook, S.B. Pickett, D.L. Slager, I.W. Caviedes-Solis, K.E. Stanchak, V. Sundaravardan, C. Valdebenito, C.R. Williams, K. Zinsli, & S. Freeman, Active learning narrows achievement gaps for underrepresented students in undergraduate science, technology, engineering, and math, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. U.S.A. 117 (12) 6476-6483, https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1916903117 (2020). M.T. Owens, S.B. Seidel, M. Wong, T.E. Bejines, S. Lietz, J.R. Perez, S. Sit, Z. Subedar, G.N. Acker, S.F. Akana, B. Balukjian, H.P. Benton, J.R. Blair, S.M. Boaz, K.E. Boyer, J.B. Bram, L.W. Burrus, D.T. Byrd, N. Caporale, E.J. Carpenter, Y.M. Chan, L. Chen, A. Chovnick, D.S. Chu, B.K. Clarkson, S.E. Cooper, C. Creech, K.D. Crow, J.R. de la Torre, W.F. Denetclaw, K.E. Duncan, A.S. Edwards, K.L. Erickson, M. Fuse, J.J. Gorga, B. Govindan, L.J. Green, P.Z. Hankamp, H.E. Harris, Z. He, S. Ingalls, P.D. Ingmire, J.R. Jacobs, M. Kamakea, R.R. Kimpo, J.D. Knight, S.K. Krause, L.E. Krueger, T.L. Light, L. Lund, L.M. Márquez-Magaña, B.K. McCarthy, L.J. McPheron, V.C. Miller-Sims, C.A. Moffatt, P.C. Muick, P.H. Nagami, G.L. Nusse, K.M. Okimura, S.G. Pasion, R. Patterson, P.S. Pennings, B. Riggs, J. Romeo, S.W. Roy, T. Russo-Tait, L.M. Schultheis, L. Sengupta, R. Small, G.S. Spicer, J.H. Stillman, A. Swei, J.M. Wade, S.B. Waters, S.L. Weinstein, J.K. Willsie, D.W. Wright, C.D. Harrison, L.A. Kelley, G. Trujillo, C.R. Domingo, J.N. Schinske, & K.D. Tanner, Classroom sound can be used to classify teaching practices in college science courses, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. U.S.A. 114 (12) 3085-3090, https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1618693114 (2017). A.M. Hermundstad, D.S. Bassett, K.S. Brown, E.M. Aminoff, D. Clewett, S. Freeman, A. Frithsen, A. Johnson, C.M. Tipper, M.B. Miller, S.T. Grafton, & J.M. Carlson, Structural foundations of resting-state and task-based functional connectivity in the human brain, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. U.S.A. 110 (15) 6169-6174, https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1219562110 (2013).

  11. The Secret to a Connected Classroom? Names Matter. A Discussion with Michelle Miller from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Sep 11, 202520 min

    Welcome to Season 10! In our opening episode, we sit down with Dr. Michelle Miller—Professor of Psychological Sciences and President’s Distinguished Teaching Fellow at Northern Arizona University—to explore the simple yet powerful practice of learning students’ names. Drawing upon her research in memory, attention, and the impact of technology on learning, Dr. Miller shares how addressing students by name fosters belonging and community in the classroom. We also discuss the practical challenges faculty face in remembering so many new names and faces. Together, we review practical strategies to strengthen memory and build instructor confidence in this vital classroom practice. Learn more about Dr. Miller’s work in her publication - Minds Online: Teaching Effectively with Technology .

  12. The Present Professor with Liz Norell from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Dec 5, 202421 min

    In the introduction of Liz Norell ’s new book, The Present Professor: Authenticity and Transformational Teaching (2024), she opens with two statements: “When you cannot be present, you cannot teach effectively” and “What’s good for students is good for us, too.” In this episode, Dr. Norell elaborates on these statements, and examines the importance of presence and authenticity in teaching and learning for both instructors and students. Dr. Norell, who serves as Associate Director of Instructional Support in the Center for Excellence in Teaching and Learning at the University of Mississippi, also shares tools for cultivating self-knowledge, and discusses how they can positively impact teaching. This will be the last episode of Season 9 of Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning. We will be back in spring 2025 with Season 10. Thank you for listening!

  13. How to Rebuild a Broken Connection With Students with Kristi Rudenga from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Nov 14, 202423 min

    Kristi Rud enga , author of The Chronicle of Higher Education article, “ How to Rebuild a Broken Connection With Students ” (2024), writes that while intergenerational misunderstanding isn’t anything new, “the tumult of the past five years seems to have supercharged the disconnect between students and faculty members.” In this episode, Dr. Rudenga, Director of the Kaneb Center for Teaching Excellence at Notre Dame, discusses her article and shares why human connection is essential, both for an instructor’s own job satisfaction and as an important precursor to student learning. Kristi shares practical, simple strategies that instructors can use to help build connections with students.

  14. Trust Moves in the Classroom with Peter Felten, Rachel Forsyth, and Kath Sutherland from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Oct 31, 202432 min

    How can instructors build trust, community, and a sense of belonging with their students to ultimately improve student learning? In today’s episode, we tackle this question with Peter Felten , Rachel Forsyth , and Kath Sutherland , authors of the two recent articles, “ Building Trust in the Classroom: A Conceptual Model for Teachers, Scholars, and Academic Developers in Higher Education ” and “ Expressions of Trust: How University STEM Teachers Describe the Role of Trust in their Teaching .” Drs. Felton, Forsyth, and Sutherland share ways that teachers can consciously build trust with their students—a previously under-explored topic—through what they call “trust moves.”

  15. A Pedagogy of Kindness with Cate Denial from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Oct 17, 202423 min

    Welcome to Season 9 of Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning! In this season, with our new host Columbia CTL Executive Director Amanda Irvin , we are exploring the dead idea that the world “outside” of the classroom doesn’t or shouldn’t influence the world “inside” the classroom—that students are exclusively intellectual beings when they step across the threshold (physical or virtual) of the classroom space. In our first episode we speak with guest Cate Denial , the Bright Distinguished Professor of American History and Director of the Bright Institute at Knox College in Galesburg, Illinois, and author of the book A Pedagogy of Kindness (2024). Cate’s new book argues for the strength and capacity instructors and students gain when they meet each other as whole human beings. Dr. Denial discusses her book and shares suggestions for instructors everywhere on how to implement a pedagogy of kindness in their own classrooms. Resource: A Pedagogy of Kindness (2024) by Cate Denial

  16. Passing the Baton: A New Chapter for Dead Ideas from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    May 2, 202441 min

    In today’s episode, we say a bittersweet goodbye to our wonderful podcast host, Columbia Center for Teaching and Learning (CTL) Executive Director Catherine Ross , as she will be retiring from Columbia in June. Catherine sits down with Amanda Irvin , Senior Director of Faculty Programs and Services here at the Columbia CTL, who will be taking the helm as our next podcast host, starting in the fall 2024 season. Catherine and Amanda reflect on their “favorite” dead ideas and episodes, as well as dead ideas that have yet to be discussed, and how this podcast has impacted our Center’s work internally. We’d like to thank Catherine for her passion and leadership as our podcast host over the past four years, and for her unfailing dedication to changing higher education teaching! This will be the last episode of Season 8 of Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning. We will be back in fall 2024 with Season 9. Thank you for listening!

  17. How to Help Adjuncts Not Want to Give Up with Kerry O’Grady from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Apr 4, 202429 min

    In today’s episode we examine the systemic issues and dead ideas that underlie the hiring and supporting of contingent faculty. We speak with Kerry O’Grady , Director for Teaching Excellence at the Samberg Institute for Teaching Excellence at Columbia Business School. Dr. O’Grady discusses some of the “normalized” practices that often leave adjunct instructors with a lack of resources and support for their teaching. She then provides research-based recommendations that can help adjunct faculty feel more valued and empowered, as noted in her letter to the editor in The Chronicle of Higher Education, in response to an article titled, “ Adjunct Professors Face a ‘Constant Struggle to Not Give Up,’ Report Says ,” (October 26, 2023). Resources “ Adjunct Professors Face a ‘Constant Struggle to Not Give Up,’ Report Says ” (October 26, 2023, The Chronicle of Higher Education) by Amita Chatterjee “ How to Help Adjuncts Not Want to Give Up ” (November 29, 2023, The Chronicle of Higher Education) by Kerry O’Grady

  18. Notes from the Field: Dead Ideas from Columbia CTL Educational Developers from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Mar 7, 202436 min

    In this episode of 4 mini-interviews, we ask Columbia Center for Teaching and Learning (CTL) staff John Foo, Jamie Kim, Rebecca Petitti, and Corey Ptak what’s been on their minds as they go about their work as educational developers. What dead ideas in teaching and learning are they encountering in their day-to-day work with instructors, in their reading and research? What are the underlying systemic issues perpetuating these dead ideas? And how are these developers addressing these challenges? Listen in to hear their responses. Resources Columbia Science of Learning Research Initiative (SOLER) Columbia Office of the Provost’s Teaching and Learning Grants " The Tyranny of Content: ‘Content Coverage’ as a Barrier to Evidence-Based Teaching Approaches and Ways to Overcome It " (Petersen et al., 2020) in CBE—Life Sciences Education “ Facilitating Change in Undergraduate STEM Instructional Practices: An Analytic Review of the Literature ” Henderson, Beach, & Finkelstein, 2011) in Journal of Research in Science Teaching “ Four Categories of Change Strategies for Undergraduate STEM ” (Henderson, Beach, & Finkelstein, 2011) in Accelerating Systemic Change in STEM Higher Education “ Chemistry and Racism: A Special Topics Course for Students Taking General Chemistry at Barnard College in Fall 2020 ” (Babb & Austin, 2022) in Journal of Chemical Education CTL Teaching Transformations Reflection from Rachel Narehood Austin

  19. Why is There No Training on How to Teach Graduate Students? with Leonard Cassuto from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Feb 22, 202431 min

    In this episode, we continue this season’s examination of graduate education, now looking into how institutions often overlook the need for preparing faculty to teach graduate students and graduate courses. We unpack the dead ideas that underlie this neglect with Leonard Cassuto , professor of English at Fordham University, and author of The Chronicle of Higher Education article “ Why is There No Training on How to Teach Graduate Students? ” (May 8, 2023).

  20. Teaching Development in Doctoral Education: Let’s Ask the Grad Students! from Dead Ideas in Teaching and Learning, opens in a new tab

    Feb 8, 202430 min

    In this episode, we continue the conversation from our last episode on the topic of teaching development in doctoral education—this time from the student perspective! With co-host Caitlin DeClercq, Senior Assistant Director of Graduate Student Programs and Services at the Columbia CTL, we are joined by Columbia doctoral students Anirbaan Banerjee, Sara Jane Samuel, and Anwesha Sengupta. They share their experiences, thoughts, and advice on all things teaching development in doctoral education.

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