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Or So They Say ...

Published by orsotheysay

  • Places & travel
  • Society & culture

If local legends, lore, and laughter are your thing, tune in to our podcast where we travel small town USA, one ghostly tale at a time.

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  1. Ep.243 The Rockwood Manison from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Sep 17, 20261 hr 4 min

    We went a little light hearted for you this time. We've found a location so nice it seems that its residents didn't want to leave, during their lives, or even after. Lots of spirits have been reported here in the Wilmington, Delaware mansion, but it seems like they're just trying to live their best after life. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  2. Ep.242 The Magnolia Hotel from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Sep 11, 20261 hr 23 min

    Another day, another haunted hotel. You know what, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Instead, investigate it, and that is what a number of notable paranormal groups have done for us (thanks guys!). In Seguin, Texas we get our very own version of 13 ghosts, but how many of those will you actually encounter? Listen to find out. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  3. Ep.241 SS Princess Sophia from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Sep 4, 20261 hr 22 min

    Well, it seems every time we go unconventional it works more than in our favor, and we think this time we got a little more than we bargained for. There's no real location here to investigate, but the story of this ship is truly haunting enough. A tragedy like one we've never heard, and we still have paranormal happenings on our hands. This event was devastating enough to leave spirits crawling for the shores of Juneau, Alaska. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  4. Ep.240 Stark Saloon Pt 2 from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Aug 28, 20261 hr 12 min

    Happy birthday to us!! We've been at this for 6 years now, and we're hoping to go for another 6 at least. And we've decided to gift you and ourselves another in person investigation. We have returned to the Stark Saloon in Rosedale, Indiana, and we were lucky to walk away with more evidence for you. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  5. Ep.239 The Argo Hotel from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Aug 20, 20261 hr 11 min

    We're feeling rejuvenated, revivified, and reinvigorated. In light of a very special anniversary coming up we feel ourselves going back to our roots. Big things are in the works, but until then, enjoy this episode out of little old Crofton, Nebraska. The Argo Hotel boasts the usual "most haunted hotel" title, but are the rumors true? Let's find out. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  6. Ep.238 Helgeson Hotel from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Aug 13, 20261 hr 15 min

    This is a testament to never doubt yourself, or feel like you're not enough. We went into this episode out of Orofino, Idaho thinking it would be as exciting as, well, Idaho. And every time we do that, boy are we mistaken. This one takes a turn for the sickening. We still have cold chills. Listen at your own risk. (no triggers, we're just scared) Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  7. Ep.237 Nu'uanu Pali Lookout from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Aug 6, 20261 hr 8 min

    Finally, we get to get away, even if it's just vicariously through ghost stories. Welcome to tropical Kaneohe, HI. We sure try our best on these pronunciations, but you see, we're simple folk from Indiana, and darn it if it's not a struggle. But we're still respectful, just as you should be. No need to get naked and piss yourself about it... just listen to the episode. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  8. Twin Tangent Ep.21 from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Jul 30, 20261 hr 8 min

    Every time one of these comes around it feels like the first time in a long time. You all put up with our distracted antics each episode, and now, finally, we are bringing you an episode of nothing but distractions. We talk devastating TV shows, the days shenanigans, and dreams. So many dreams. Some scary, some not so scary, some disturbing in multiple senses of the word. Either way, strap in and get ready to never know what's going to come out of our mouths next. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  9. Ep.236 Molly's Hollow from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Jul 23, 20261 hr 21 min

    We find ourselves back in Kansas, an unsuspecting state who keeps their haunted claims to a reasonable level. Atchison is apparently a hub for the hauntings, you should check out their ghost tour! But we find ourselves in a bit of a dark tale at Molly's Hollow. It probably shouldn't be a surprise coming from a state that has a historical event known as "Bleeding Kansas". It's rough out here, and we've got the ghosts to prove it. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  10. Ep.235 The Purple Church from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Jul 16, 20261 hr 1 min

    We tried to steer ourselves in a different direction this time in Spencer, Oklahoma. It's been a while since we've covered a church, and this one is giving big "random scary church in Brazil, IN" vibes. If you've listened to our earlier episodes then you know. There's lots of lore here, but is there any substance? Listen to find out. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  11. Ep.234 Edinburgh Manor from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Jul 9, 20261 hr 7 min

    Welcome back from our mini .. vacation? staycation? mentallyawaycation? Whatever it was we are back , and we're talking ghosts. As always, we've got some bold claims, but maybe Iowa is onto something this time. The evidence is shocking if true, so let's slueth together. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  12. Ep.233 Myrtles Plantation from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Jun 25, 20261 hr 31 min

    We've had claims of the most haunted locations in cities, in states, and even in the country, but Louisiana is claiming to have one of the most haunted places in the world. And honestly, given it's past, we wouldn't blame it. Myrtles Plantation has seen some devastation in it's time, and it seems like those spirits are ready to share their stories. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  13. Ep.232 Island Hotel from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Jun 18, 20261 hr 25 min

    This location has just what you're looking for on your next vacation: the sun, the waves, and the ghosts. The Island Hotel in Cedar Key has a rich history, but also a long history, which means it has seen wars, hardships, and other devastations. The deaths tied to this hotel are numerous, but not necessarily sound. Still, there may be some truth to the stories, otherwise how would we have these thirteen ghosts running about? Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  14. Ep.231 Ashmore Estates the Sequel from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Jun 12, 20261 hr 30 min

    We weren't sure if we'd ever come back to this location, but as fate would have it, we finally made it happen. This has been a full circle moment two decades in the making, so it begs the question; was the wait worth it? Well, we don't want to spoil anything, but one of us may have almost walked out on their scariest encounter to date. So.. probably, yea. It was worth it. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  15. Ep.230 Letchworth Village from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Jun 4, 20261 hr 12 min

    Well, we're back in New York in the unsuspecting hamlet of Thiells. Some may overlook a "city" of this size, but not us. One, because it's in our tagline, and two, well, it can't be that unsuspecting if Ghost Adventures has been here. And if it's good enough for Ghost Adventures then it's good enough for us. We've got some run of the mill asylum stuff happening here, but there may be something darker waiting in the hallways this time. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  16. Ep.229 Cresson Sanitorium and Prison from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    May 28, 20261 hr 12 min

    A lady of many talents, these grounds have seen it all. A TB facility, a prison, a hospital, some of them at the same time. They tried their best, but TB and violent poisoners are a nasty thing, so these buildings have still seen tens of thousands of deaths. So this may come as a shock, but.. she's haunted. How haunted, you ask? Let's find out. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  17. Ep.228 Middlegate Station Part 2 from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    May 21, 202651 min

    Well, we didn't intend for a click bait moment on the last episode, but we are glad we came back for a part two of this location. The first cover of this location proved to be much more active than we initially assumed, and this continuation only ramps that up. This episode took us back to our roots with dramatized intros, multiple cuts, and chaos galore. But we got to the end, and we got there together. So give this one a listen, and we'll see you on the other side. (Also, BIG NEWS at the end of the episode, so stick around!) Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  18. Ep.227 Middlegate Station from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    May 14, 20261 hr 17 min

    We've said it once, and we'll say it again. It is literally always the least suspecting places that come out swinging, and this small Nevada town is no different. Finding info on her was a challenge, but clearly the spirits like to speak for themselves here. We think that's enough click bait-y material, so just do yourself a favor and start listening already. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  19. Ep.226 The Clayton House from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    May 7, 20261 hr 5 min

    Another week, another episode, this time in Fort Smith, Arkansas. Did we accidently look up Kansas for a second because the internet has rotted our brain? Yes, but don't worry, we are in the Clayton House, and the ghosts are here, we can assure you. Some of them may just be a little more startling than others. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

  20. Twin Tangent Ep.20 from Or So They Say ..., opens in a new tab

    Apr 30, 20261 hr 22 min

    Here it is, folks, a true tangent for the books. Lord knows we always have some asides throughout our episodes, so we decided to let loose, and see if those unscripted asides would give us a full episode. And to no ones surprise, we sure did it. So sit back and enjoy over an hour of us just seeing where the wind takes us, and then changing course anyway. Check out our affiliates: Javvycoffee.com Use code ORSO77605 to get 15% off every order. Venomscent.com Use code ORSO28248 to get 10% off every order. Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUTPN And don't forget to swing by here: https://www.redbubble.com/people/orsotheysaypod/shop

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