Selling In The Motor Trade

Think about every amber tyre your department advised on last year. Now count the customers who rang back and booked in purely to have them done. It fits on one hand. Colin McAllister spotted two in a single day across John Clark Motor Group recently and it was unusual enough that he noticed, in a group with a site running 40 retail ramps. In this episode Simon Bowkett, Colin McAllister and Darren Bedford of Symco Training work through how red and amber work actually gets communicated, from the drop off conversation to the phone call that decides whether the customer says yes or drives to a fast fit. The line that kills your update calls. The rule that settles whether an item is red or amber. And why quoting your competitor's tyre price yourself is the fastest way to keep the job in house. • Separating the customer appointment from the car appointment so the golden hour survives a full drop off rush • The drop off agenda: payment method, VHC explanation, best number for the advisor, email for the technician's video • "If you don't hear from me, that's good news, and I'll see you at four o'clock", and what it does to your inbound calls • Why the health check should wait until the diagnostic the customer actually paid for is finished • The grandma rule for settling red or amber, and the version technicians should be using on themselves • Quoting the fast fit price yourself, and why a five pound gap per tyre closes on convenience • "Did you need to get back to me about the price, or about when we could fit it?" • The tyre card John Clark hand to customers, printed 1.6mm thick because that is the legal limit Colin McAllister runs group training and development at John Clark Motor Group and brings the tools they put in advisors' hands, including the percentage worn tyre card and the Tyre Safe link that takes the argument off the dealer. Darren Bedford is sales director at Symco Training and spends his weeks inside service departments, which is why he keeps pulling this back to language rather than effort. If your amber work goes quiet after the phone call, play this to your service advisors before Monday's drop offs. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

Simon Bowkett is joined by Colin McAllister of John Clark Motor Group and Darren Bedford of Symco Training for a proper after sales conversation. They get into service plans and retention, the golden hour, how quickly a VHC video needs to reach the customer, and what happens to the job when authorisation lands three hours too late. Colin shares the real auto authorisation figures across the group, and there are two cracking stories in here about the value of a good technician, one involving a coffee machine and one involving a screwdriver and a very large invoice. • Service plans, price protection and why they hold retention together when money is tight • The golden hour, and the 15 minute standard through technician, parts and front desk • Real auto authorisation rates across John Clark, plus how fast customers respond to the video • Why long lead times push away the service customers you actually want • Getting credit for diagnostic work instead of handing over a no fault found • The coffee machine story and the FedEx invoice, and what they say about your labour rate • Where technicians are coming from now, apprenticeships, ex forces recruits and fast track Level 3 • Simple contact habits at drop off that get you an answer while the car is still up in the air Colin McAllister is group training and development manager at John Clark Motor Group and looks after training across the group's dealerships, including its apprentice programmes. Darren Bedford is sales director at Symco Training and works with service departments across the country on process and workshop planning. Both have been on the show before and both know the trade from the inside. Send this to your service advisors and your service manager, then look out for part two next week where the guys cover how to put it into practice in your own dealership. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

Do you actually want to be in the tyre business? It sounds like a simple question, and most dealers answer it with a quick look at the margin. Simon Bowkett reckons that's the wrong test. In this episode he explains why tyres are worth doing even close to break even, because of what they protect. Keep the tyre work and you keep the customer. Lose it and you hand a fast fit the chance to sell them servicing, wipers, batteries and a winter check. He also covers the practical side. How to quote, how to explain tread depth so it actually registers, how to get tyres checked early enough to sell them, and why sitting on the fence causes more problems than staying out altogether. • The real question to ask before you commit to selling tyres • Why stopping defection matters more than the margin on the tyre • How to quote the fast fit price yourself and keep the customer's trust • A clearer way to explain tread depth than talking in percentages • Checking tyres at drop off, the way many US service departments do it • What mismatched tyres do to noise, handling and stopping distance • How to give the customer a choice instead of a flat no This one is Simon Bowkett on his own, drawing on years of training sales and aftersales teams in UK dealerships. Everything he covers here also runs through Symco's Sales Fitness and Today's Service Advisor programmes. If you run or work in a service department and tyres feel like more hassle than they're worth, give this one a listen before you decide. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

Here's the upsell that costs you nothing in workshop grief. No cars pulled back off the ramps at ten to four. No service advisor watching their CSI score go out the window. Air conditioning servicing runs itself. The technician sets the machine going and gets on with the rest of the job. Yet most departments barely offer it. In this episode, Simon Bowkett lays out why that's a missed opportunity and how to fix it. He starts with belief, because a service advisor who thinks air con doesn't really need doing will pitch it exactly that way. Then he works through the whole process and the word tracks that make it land. This is about turning a quiet job into steady profit without piling more pressure on an already stretched team. What's covered: • The real reason air con servicing beats most red and amber upsells: the machine does the work • Why a stone through the condenser is diagnostic work, not a service, and why that distinction protects your credibility • The five touchpoints to sell it, and why you pitch at more than one • The SWAP format that lets the technician's video do the selling for you • Killing the 'I hardly use it' objection with the boiler analogy • Why the word 're-gas' is costing you money and confidence • The promise-me close that banks the sale twelve months out • What gets measured gets done: a simple leaderboard for air con servicing Simon Bowkett, Skippy to most of the trade, runs Symco Training and hosts this show. He's not a technician and says so, but he's sat on enough Monday-morning service counters to know where the process falls apart. His job here is the sales and belief side, and he hands the technical weight to the people who fix the cars. If you're a head of business, after-sales manager or service advisor, this is a quick win hiding in plain sight. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

If a customer walked onto your forecourt, got ignored for three minutes, then was told to hang on while nobody came back, heads would roll. You'd call it a process failure and fix it that day. So why is exactly that happening on your phone every single day? Roughly one in three callers never gets through to someone who can help. They're not cold leads. They want to buy or book. And when they can't reach you, they don't wait around. They phone the independent down the road who picks up. Phone leads convert at nearly double the rate of internet leads, yet they're the ones we let slip through. This episode lays out where the calls fail, why voicemail is a dead end, and five fixes you can check today. What's covered: • The one in three callers you never knew you were losing • Why phone leads convert at nearly double internet leads and still get neglected • Hold times, voicemail and the exact points where calls fall over • The Monday morning crunch that makes the service desk the biggest offender • How missed calls are quietly costing you service loyalty and repeat sales • What happens to your net promoter score when a customer has to explain themselves three times • Five fixes, including the one most owners never do: dial your own dealership Host Simon Bowkett, or Skippy to regular listeners, runs sales training company Symco Training and spends his days inside real dealerships. This one is data led and personal. It started when he couldn't get hold of a newly acquired group on the phone, and a business partner asked him why it's so hard to spend money with dealers. Before you spend another penny on marketing, listen to this and go dial your own dealership. You might not like what you hear. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

Here is the trade-off nobody on the sales floor wants to admit. Every time your salesperson says just sell it to We Buy Any Car to kill a part-exchange objection, they are handing your best stock to someone else. Quick for them. Expensive for you. Simon sold four of his own cars through Motorway, Carwow and We Buy Any Car to see the process from the customer's side, and it was worse than he expected. Late outsourced drivers. An app arguing about a tyre inflation kit on run-flat tyres. A finance settlement that nearly left a black mark over £60. But the sharp end is this. Your used car department is your profit centre, and you are letting it starve to make one objection go away. This episode is about taking that stock back. What's covered: • The easy objection-buster that quietly drains your used car stock • What really happens at a We Buy Any Car drop-in centre • Why Motorway and Carwow quote almost identical prices to the pound • The outsourced drivers and app mistakes that put deals at risk • Why finance settlements through these services are not as seamless as they look • The window of opportunity close that keeps the trade-in with you • The one to ten condition question that stops distance sales going wrong • Why used car managers should worry more about their own salespeople mis-describing cars than customers If you run a forecourt and you want to stop feeding your rivals, listen to this before your next sales meeting. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

Here is the uncomfortable bit. Your VHC videos probably aren't broken. Your technicians' script is. In this episode, Simon Bowkett, Skippy to most of the trade, explains why so many vehicle health check videos get filmed, sent, and then convert nothing. The camera was meant to fix a strange problem in the motor trade, the expert who inspects the car never actually speaks to the customer. But most technicians narrate like mechanics reading a chart. Amber, red, green, borderline, two millimetres. The customer hears noise, not risk. Skippy breaks down the SWOP process Symco teaches, shows how to make a worn tyre feel like a real decision rather than a line on a checklist, and hands you six steps to put back into the business for immediate results. What's covered: • The real reason VHC videos get watched but don't sell the work • Why 'amber, red, green' narration quietly kills conversion • The SWOP process: see it, why it happened, the outcome, the proposal • The doctor and receptionist problem, and why the expert must speak to the customer • How to explain a two millimetre tyre so the customer feels the risk • How the right video hands the service advisor an easier, more credible call • Six steps to lift VHC conversion, ready to use straight away If your health check videos are getting filmed but not converting, take the six steps in this episode and put them in this week. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

Most used car managers still price off the auction book. Cazana wants to flip that on its head. In this panel episode, Simon Bowkett sits down with Ian, Mark and Darren from Cazana, the retail valuations platform built on more data than anyone else in the UK, with around 900,000 unique cars tracked every day. The conversation stays practical and commercial throughout: how to value a car retail-down rather than trade-up, why days to sell matters more than gut feel, and why the used EV market has turned hot again. If you buy used cars, run a sales desk or want tighter stock turn, this one is built for your job. What's covered: • Why valuing a car retail-down beats pricing up from the auction book • How days to sell data sharpens what you pay and what you advertise for • Why the used EV market has turned hot again, with dealers struggling to get stock • What battery health really does to used EV values, and why it is less of a worry than people think • How provenance, MOT history and local stock affect a car's price • Why estates, saloons and small petrol hatchbacks are selling quickly right now • The pricing strategy that avoids a race to the bottom • What the Cazana 500 offer gives independent dealers Cazana is a used vehicle data and retail valuations platform, originally built in 2012 by Tom Wood, purchased in 2023 by Percayso and relaunched after the Cazoo collapse. Ian leads the business, while Mark and Derren bring years at Experian Automotive and Cap HPI to the table. Eight of the top ten insurers and the Financial Ombudsman already use their valuations, which tells you something about the quality of the data. If you are a dealer principal, used car manager or buyer trying to buy better and turn stock faster, this is worth your time. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

Here is something most sales managers know but cannot prove: the mood on the floor matters more than the morning meeting. Dr. Tharaka is back to put the science behind it. Emotions are contagious. Your team members are copying each other's states right now, not by choice, but because that is how human brains are wired. There is a measurable return on your team's emotional climate. There is also a measurable return on trust, down to the hormone level in the blood. And there are practical tools you can put in place on Monday morning that shift both. This episode covers the mechanisms, the techniques and the brain science in plain language for people in the motor trade. What's covered: • Why emotional states transfer between team members and why that is not a soft concept but a performance variable with a commercial return • The bandwagon bias and why customers and staff alike default to following the crowd, even when it is the wrong crowd • Why short-term memory evaporates and a practical visual technique for making customer names, partners and even dogs stick • Why the brain is 60,000 times faster with images than text and how that should change how you show up with a customer • Time punctuation: how to use the calendar to unstick a team that has run out of momentum, and the dealership example that ran used car targets to the 15th • Crisis, Crash and Comeback: the three-phase model that explains the bickering, entitlement and initiative loss that followed lockdown • Oxytocin, trust and why there is a direct financial return on building genuine rapport, backed by experimental transaction data • The what went well huddle: zero cost, measurable impact, simple enough to start this week Dr. Tharaka is a neuroscientist, performance psychologist and TEDx speaker who appeared on Channel 4. He advises leaders on the psychological levers behind team performance, motivation and trust. He is not a motivational speaker. He is someone who can tell you what is happening in your team's brains and what you can do about it. If you want the science behind why your best teams behave the way they do, and the tools to build more of them, this is the episode. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

What happens between the ears drives what happens on the forecourt. That is not motivational filler. That is the core argument from Dr. Tharaka, a consultant psychiatrist and TEDx speaker who has spent 15 years studying how the mind affects performance, and now brings that science into the working world. In this episode, he and Simon Bowkett dig into the real psychology of why salespeople go from the Midas touch one week to the SADIMS the next, what manager expectations actually do to the people they lead, and why visualisation is not hocus pocus. If you have ever watched a salesperson fall apart after one bad deal, or wondered why your team's belief level is so hard to shift, this episode gives you something practical to work with. What's covered: • Why winning needs redefining beyond cars sold and commission earned, and what the 11 growth areas have to do with sales performance • The Mind-Action-Profit framework: why getting the mind right comes before the action, and the action before the profit • How to help a salesperson climb out of the SADIMS when deals keep collapsing around them • Why self-compassion is a performance tool: the science behind talking to yourself like a friend rather than an enemy • The Pygmalion effect: how a manager's high expectations directly and measurably improve team performance • The Golem effect: what consistently low expectations do to the people you lead, and why it matters on a sales floor • The neuroscience of visualisation and why athletes, actors and top performers all use it for the same reason • The 'what went well' huddle: a simple team meeting tool to retrain the brain to hunt for good data instead of problems Dr. Tharaka is a consultant psychiatrist, TEDx speaker and high-performance coach who spent 15 years in clinical medicine before bringing the science of the mind into business and leadership. He has appeared on Channel 4 and works with senior leadership teams across multiple industries. His central argument is that when you manage the mind, you manage the bottom line. If you manage people in the trade and want to understand what is actually driving performance on your floor, this episode is worth your time. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

Here is a question worth sitting with. When you walk into your own business, does everyone know who you are? Graeme from Eden Motor Group once acquired a large Ford dealership and asked the general manager to take him on a tour. The GM opened a broom cupboard looking for the stairs to his own parts department. He had never been down there. When Graeme finally got into the parts office, the young woman behind the desk asked which one of you is the new guy. She had never spoken to the GM in her life. That is not an operations problem. That is a culture problem. And Graeme has spent a career learning to spot exactly that kind of failure within minutes of walking through a door. What's covered: • Why will cannot be bred and how to spot it fast in a candidate or a first conversation • The physical and social signals that tell you someone is genuinely people-orientated • What a healthy business feels like when you walk it and what a broken one reveals • Why having a hierarchy is not the same as behaving hierarchically • How corporate pride became the motivator that drove Eden's recovery from a bruising 2023 • Why the best leaders ask their teams questions instead of performing certainty • The specific advice Graeme would give to anyone taking their first management role • Why IMI accreditation is starting to move the needle in front-line recruitment decisions Graeme is the principal and sole shareholder of Eden Motor Group in the North East of England, a franchise business spanning volume and premium brands. He chairs the IMI and spent years on the board of Ben, the automotive industry charity. Before crossing into the motor trade, he built his thinking about people at Marks and Spencer, and you can hear it in every answer he gives. If you run a dealership, lead a team, or are about to take your first management role, Graeme's thinking on will over skill, recovery culture, and what great leadership actually looks like is worth the full hour. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

The UK has made itself the most attractive market in Europe for Chinese car manufacturers, and most dealers have not fully thought through what that means yet. Graeme, CEO of Eden Motor Group, has. He has been in the trade for over 40 years and built a multi-franchise group across Vauxhall, MG, Leap Motor, Mazda, Hyundai and Peugeot. He is direct about the dynamic: aggressive BEV targets and a relatively open import policy are pulling manufacturers toward the UK in a way that France and Germany, with their fiscal management and tariffs, simply are not seeing. That matters for anyone trying to decide which Chinese brands to take on, which to leave alone, and whether the ones arriving now will still be here in five years. This episode is worth your time before you make that call. What's covered: • Why UK BEV mandates are creating a different competitive landscape to the rest of Europe, and what that means for dealer margins • The specific reasons Eden backed MG and Leap Motor, and what made those two decisions straightforward when others were not • How Eden's early Vauxhall joint venture worked, including the golden share, the accounting rules and the buyout strategy • The workwear question: what Eden's exec committee decided after consulting front-of-house colleagues, and why it still divides opinion • Why Graeme talks to every waiting customer before his morning management meeting, and what he heard this week • The deliberate decision not to grow Eden beyond a certain size, even when the funding and the franchise opportunities were both available • What keeps a 40-year industry veteran fully engaged: the honest version, not the polished one Graeme is CEO of Eden Motor Group, a UK franchise group representing Vauxhall, MG, Leap Motor, Mazda, Hyundai and Peugeot. He built the business from a single Vauxhall joint venture, chose quality over scale at every growth stage, and now advises the IMI, a French motor retail business and an American investment bank alongside his full-time CEO role. He has been doing this for over 40 years and still walks the service reception floor before his meetings start. If you are a dealer principal or franchise director trying to make sense of the Chinese brand wave before it makes the decisions for you, this is the episode to start with. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

Graeme Potts has run motor retail at every level worth running. He joined Sir Peter Vardy in 1983 when Reg Vardy was three dealerships, and was still there when it had grown to 85 and was turning over 900 million pounds. He then led the RAC turnaround with 10,000 people and a 765 million pound price tag, ran 1.6 billion of turnover at Inchcape, and then walked away from all of it to start Eden Automotive with five dealerships in 2008. In this episode, he talks through what he learned at each stage and what still holds true in 2026. What's covered: • Why knowing your numbers separates good operators from great ones, and what that looks like at the sales consultant level • What Sir Peter Vardy built at Reg Vardy and the attitude that drove the growth • Why there is always business to be done, regardless of weather, economics or what is on television • How Eden bans the phrases time-wasters and tyre-kickers, and why that matters • The infrastructure shock of leaving a PLC and building a dealership group from scratch • Whether standalone dealerships can realistically stack up in 2026 • Why culture is the hardest thing to change in any acquisition, and the most important • What changes in how people respond when you become the owner rather than the executive Graeme Potts is CEO of Eden Automotive Investments, a group he co-founded after senior roles at Reg Vardy, the RAC and Inchcape. He has spent more than four decades in motor retail, across every scale from a three-site family business to a multinational PLC. His perspective covers both the corporate and the independent sides of the trade, and he has the track record to back it. If you are a dealer principal, general manager or anyone building or running a dealership group, this one is worth blocking out proper time for. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

Customers say cash for a reason. It is not usually because they are cash buyers. It is because they have been conditioned from the day, they first paid a plumber to believe that saying cash gets them a better deal. In this episode, Simon breaks down exactly why your team keeps hearing that answer in 2026, the assumptions that kill finance deals before they even get started, and the specific questions and phrases that open customers up instead of closing them down. What's covered: • Why customers say 'cash' and the psychology driving it • Why asking 'how are you funding the car?' is the wrong question for your sales team to use • Assumptive payment questions that presuppose finance and get better answers • How to use inflation framing to anchor monthly payment expectations before presenting a deal • Why salespeople believe your dealership is expensive on finance rates, and how to fix that belief • Neil Carrahar's approach to the cash objection: working with the grain, not against it • The 'savings or external lender' technique that strokes ego without starting an argument • What information to gather early so your business manager can stack the deal properly About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

Most salespeople ask about GAP insurance once, get a no, and move on. This episode is about what happens when you go back. Simon runs through a single sweep-up technique, one cheeky question asked at the point of collection, that consistently turns previous rejections into policies sold. The logic is simple: by the time the customer arrives to collect their car, the mental pain of the purchase price has already passed. When you frame a GAP premium against what they already pay for comprehensive cover, the numbers do the work for you. This is a short, direct episode aimed at business managers and salespeople who are still selling GAP and want something practical they can use today. What's covered: • The cheeky question opener that gets permission to probe on price without putting the customer on guard • How to use the customer's own insurance premium as the comparison point for GAP cost • Annual and monthly framing options for cash buyers and finance customers • Why collection day is the right psychological moment to revisit GAP with someone who previously said no • A clean response to the I am a safe driver objection • Why business managers should personally introduce themselves to cash customers at pickup • How the sweep up works alongside earlier GAP presentations rather than replacing them • Why customers who dismissed GAP before are genuinely more open once they are collecting their car If you are a business manager or sales manager who wants one more GAP sale this week, this episode is worth ten minutes of your time. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

AI is not magic. It is not going to replace your sales team. And it is almost certainly not going to save a broken process. What it will do, if you use it properly, is give your people time back, cover your leads after hours, and flag the problems your managers are too busy to catch. Will Benedicks and Brent Wees have been doing this at dealership level, not in a conference presentation, in real stores with real results. This is what that looks like. What's covered: • The single most important thing to do before buying any AI tool • RIPE: the prompting framework that makes AI output actually usable • Why uploading customer data into a personal ChatGPT account is a data protection problem waiting to happen • How after-hours AI lead response generated an extra four and a half car sales per month from 1.7 percent uplift • The catfishing trap: why your AI-powered website can make your showroom look incompetent by comparison • How one dealer built an overnight AI agent to audit ROs, catch discount patterns and brief the team before they hit the floor • Why people who cannot use AI will be replaced by people who can, even if AI itself does not take the job • What AI will never replicate in a dealership: the relationship that closes a sixty-thousand-pound car Will Benedicks runs a dealership group that has put AI to work across the customer journey, from lead response to showroom handoffs. Brent Wees consults with dealer groups on AI implementation and publishes a no-hype weekly newsletter on what the platforms have actually added and how automotive teams can use it. Both know what these tools look like when they work and when they do not. If you are still waiting for the right moment to get serious about AI in your dealership, this episode will tell you where to start and, more usefully, what not to waste your time on. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

Most dealers are using AI like a glorified Google search. Type something in, get something back, move on. That is not wrong exactly, but it is leaving a lot on the table. Brent Wees and Will Benedicks have a sharper way of thinking about it. Knowledge is now scalable through AI. An agent scales the execution of that knowledge. Most people are only using the first half. In this episode, they walk through the RIPE framework for writing prompts that actually do what you need them to do, explain what separates a basic prompt from a working AI agent, and describe how they got eight countries worth of dealers to build a vendor evaluation agent live at NADA in under 35 minutes. There are quick wins in here for sales, service and marketing. The kind you can actually go back and use today. What's covered: • The difference between using AI for an answer and building an agent that automates the execution • RIPE framework in full: Role, Instructions, Parameters and Exceptions, with real dealership examples • The NADA hackathon: how a vendor evaluation agent was built live with dealers in 32 minutes • Why lazy prompts waste time and how to brief AI the same way you would brief a new sales consultant • Sales quick win: washing customer communications through AI to turn a six out of ten into an eight • Service quick win: using AI to translate fault codes and technical findings into plain customer language • Marketing quick win: using AI to plan quarters ahead instead of waiting to be told what to put in market • How to prompt for the prompt, and why this is the fastest way to build your AI literacy Brent Wees is a certified AI trainer with 25 years in automotive marketing, including agency work with Toyota and Lexus. He builds hands-on AI hackathons at dealer conferences specifically because he knows that dealers learn by doing, not by watching slide decks. Will Benedicks is Operations Director at Proctor dealerships, with a career that started on the showroom floor and spans sales, finance, compliance and multi-site operations. He is also the kind of person who puts his hand up in a room full of senior operators and asks the question everyone else was too embarrassed to ask. If you have ever typed a lazy prompt and wondered why AI is not delivering for your business, Brent and Will fix that in this episode. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

Most dealers are still valuing used cars the way they did ten years ago. Buy it at auction, add a margin, put it on the forecourt and hope the price holds. That approach does not work in a market where Chinese brands have no residual history, EV prices have swung dramatically, and live data can tell you within minutes what a car will actually sell for in your postcode. Derren Martin spent years as one of the key voices at CAP and now consults for Cazana, a retail-down pricing platform that gives dealers a transparent look at what comparable stock is doing in their area right now. This episode is for the used car manager who wants to know exactly how to value stock in 2025, not how it was done in 2015. What's covered: • The donor vehicle method for valuing Chinese EV brands that have no UK pricing history to work from • Why retail down beats trade up, and why relying on what you paid at auction first is the old way of doing it • What Cazana surfaces that CAP and Autotrader do not, including full vehicle history and MOT advisories • Why used EVs still sell at the right price and why the dealers avoiding them entirely are taking the bigger risk • The 30 to 40 day speed-to-sell benchmark, and the signals that tell you it is time to adjust • Why a used EV always has a floor value, because the battery pack holds secondary-use worth even at end of life • How Chinese brands are reshaping dealer footprints and what a mixed stock strategy looks like in this market • Where AI is already being used in valuations and the limits it still runs into with low-volume or new-to-market vehicles Derren Martin was the voice of CAP's used car valuation operation for a number of years, working with dealers, leasing companies and OEMs across the UK market. He now consults for Cazana, which was rebuilt after Cazoo collapsed and is competing with CAP and Autotrader on both data depth and price. If you are a used car manager trying to stay ahead of EV pricing shifts and the Chinese brand wave, this is the episode to put on. Darren Martin spent 12 years at CAP HPI, eventually directing the full valuations and forecasts operation across all vehicle types. Before that, 17 years at Vauxhall across fleet, van sales and residual value management. He now consults independently through Black and Gold Consulting, with clients including Chinese brands, legacy OEMs and large retail groups. If you are responsible for used car buying, stock policy or forecasting in any form, Darren's view on where the market is heading is the kind of context that is hard to get anywhere else. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

There is a number that should get every used car manager's attention. The OMODA J5 7 was the biggest selling car in March. The deal was around £299 down, £299 a month. That is an extraordinary amount of car for that payment, and it is working. The problem is that car becomes a used car in three years, and the used car market for Chinese brands does not really exist yet. Derren Martin ran the entire forecast and valuation portfolio at CAP HPI for several years. He knows better than most what happens when new car volumes are not matched by a credible used car strategy. He is not predicting disaster. But he is clear that the residual value risk is already being built in, and most people in the trade are not thinking about it yet. What's covered: • How CAP HPI valuations are built and why human editors, not algorithms, are still making the calls • Why Chinese brands have grown at a speed the legacy manufacturers genuinely did not expect • What happens to residual values when PCP deals are driven by interest rates rather than real demand • The channel management decisions, daily rental, Motability, fleet, that either protect or destroy used car values • Why Stellantis carrying too many brands in the same market segment is a long-term structural problem • Which smaller Japanese brands face the biggest risk of losing UK relevance • What a dealer should be doing right now to think ahead on used Chinese brand stock • Darren's prostate cancer diagnosis at 48, how a locum nearly turned him away, and why men in the trade should ask for the test rather than wait Darren Martin spent 12 years at CAP HPI, eventually directing the full valuations and forecasts operation across all vehicle types. Before that, 17 years at Vauxhall across fleet, van sales and residual value management. He now consults independently through Black and Gold Consulting, with clients including Chinese brands, legacy OEMs and large retail groups. If you are responsible for used car buying, stock policy or forecasting in any form, Darren's view on where the market is heading is the kind of context that is hard to get anywhere else. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk

You'd back central London as prime EV territory. Josh Apps from V12 can't move them. He'll sell a red-on-red Range Rover faster than a well-specced Tesla every time. That counterintuitive reality is one of several sharp observations from a dealer who built a credible high-end business in one of the most expensive places in the UK to operate, with no forecourt, no showroom, appointment only, and overheads that would make your eyes water. On top of that, why the Auto Trader Deal Builder rollout felt like a bully move, what Google entering the market actually changes, and practical advice for any sales manager weighing up whether to leave the main dealer world behind. What's covered: • The Deal Builder rollout, why dealers felt steamrolled and what Auto Trader got wrong • Auto Trader's data play: why the transactional data is the real long-term asset • Google entering car retail and why it could give dealers genuine leverage for the first time in years • Why used EVs still do not move in central London, even at low price points • Social media targeting as an emerging channel for specialist stock • The honest advice Josh gives anyone thinking about going independent • The V12 model, appointment-only, no showroom, high-end stock, central London overheads • Why starting small with cheap, easy-selling stock is still the right move for new independents Josh is the founder of V12, a central London independent operation built from nothing in 2022. He runs it appointment-only with no glass box, high overheads, and a reputation built entirely on relationships and knowing what to buy. He came into the trade from outside the main dealer world and has grown the business into something talked about well beyond where it sits geographically. If you want an honest view of where independent retailing is heading, the platforms, the EVs, the overheads, and the margins, this is the episode to listen to. About Symco Training: Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal. To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk