Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

On today’s show, we have the über-talented Janine Nabers in studio, but first, Van has some thoughts on social media, and Rachel gives a quick take on Chris Brown rejecting a Texas legislative honor. Plus, our hosts recap the ever-growing fallout of Macklemore being dropped from Ed Sheeran’s tour and the 2026 Emmys diss of actors of color. Finally, Van UNLEASHES on Kash Patel, and the crew discusses JD Vance’s plea to the American people.(00:00) Welcome to Higher Learning(4:31) Van has some thoughts(10:45) Chris Brown responds to criticism(14:10) More fallout from Macklemore’s dismissal(26:08) 2026 Emmys award no people of color(33:16) FBI Director Kash Patel roughed up(42:02) JD Vance begs voters for “another chance”(50:36) Janine Nabers joins us in studioHosts: Van Lathan and Rachel LindsayGuest: Janine NabersProducer: Marco EscalanteSocial Producer: Bernard MooreVideo Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Surprise, Thought Warriors! Higher Learning is here with a pop-up episode featuring none other than Colin Kaepernick in the studio! Kaepernick drops by not just to promote his new book, 'The Perilous Fight,' but to have a real conversation with Van and Rachel about everything. From civil rights to NFL blackballing to racial identity to protesting against police brutality to Target, no topic is off-limits. (00:00) Welcome to Higher Learning(2:59) Colin Kaepernick joins us in the studio; 'The Perilous Fight' out September 15(15:52) Racial identity(26:48) NFL career(45:52) The settlement(58:02) Muddled message?(1:08:08) Growth through adversity(1:19:07) Fighting the good fight Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel LindsayGuest: Colin KaepernickProducers: Marco Escalante and Jade WhaleySocial Producer: Bernard MooreVideo Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On today’s show, Rachel and Van chat about Rachel’s newest gig at the U.S. Open, and Lil Durk gets acquitted in his murder-for-hire trial. Speaking of trials, Lindsay Clancy’s trial ends with a hung jury that has sparked a racial debate, plus Rep. Jasmine Crockett gets backlash for awarding Chris Brown and Usher with congressional recognition for their contributions to music and culture. Ed Sheeran gives Macklemore his walking papers, and Trump says yes to $5K checks for voting Republican, but no to reparations. Rachel and Van break it all down. (00:00) Welcome to Higher Learning (16:20) Lil Durk acquitted in murder-for-hire trial (27:18) Lindsay Clancy trial ends with a hung jury (1:01:25) Jasmine Crockett getting too cozy (1:34:21) Macklemore handed his walking papers (1:47:30) Trump on checks for reparations: It’s “un-American” (1:57:03) Van meets Rachel’s biggest fan Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel LindsayProducers: Marco Escalante and Jade WhaleySocial Producer: Bernard MooreVideo Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today on Higher Learning, Van and Rachel discuss Fat Joe defending his use of the N-word, Tim Scott’s fiery GOP convention speech, and Stephen A. Smith’s sit-down with Cari Champion and Jemele Hill. Plus, Danielle Brooks and Walter Thompson-Hernández join the show to talk If I Go Will They Miss Me, Hakeem Jeffries faces a racist attack from journalist Rula Jebreal, and a woman goes viral for tracking down the man she says scammed her out of a cruise.(00:00) Welcome to Higher Learning(6:57) Fat Joe defends his use of the N-Word(42:41) Tim Scott speaks at the GOP convention(51:15) Stephen A. Smith stops by Flagrant and Funny(01:02:04) Danielle Brooks & Walter Thompson-Hernandez Join the Show(0122) Hakeem Jeffries called a monkey by Rula Jebreal(01:39:28) Woman Tracks Down Alleged Cruise ScammerHosts: Van Lathan and Rachel LindsayProducers: Marco Escalante and Jade WhaleySocial Producer: Bernard MooreVideo Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today on Higher Learning, Van and Rachel talk about the passing of Gloria Steinem, Stephen A. Smith’s continued feud with Colin Kaepernick, and Raven-Symoné’s recent comments about the Blackness of 'That’s So Raven.' Plus, 20-year-old Pierre Damas Bel dies by  suicide, reportedly out of fears of deportation, eight Democrats vote alongside Republicans to condemn socialism, and friend of the show Geno Smith makes a surprise phone appearance and spills the tea on Van’s fraternity life. Then, they talk trials and the guilty verdict in Tupac’s murder, and Lil Durk gets snitched on. (00:00)  Welcome to Higher Learning (06:01) Gloria Steinem Passes Away at 92 Years Old (19:22) Raven-Symoné back in the news cycle (40:29) Stephen A. Smith on Kaepernick vs. Jay-Z (59:20) 20-year-old Haitian dies by suicide, reportedly because of fears of deportation (1:12:20) Battle of the Bands (with Geno Smith) (1:29:19) Keffe D found guilty of Tupac’s murder (1:44:07) Murder for hire (Lil Durk trial) (1:54:18) Eight Democrats vote to condemn socialism (1:59:00:) Let’s Get Sensual Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Marco Escalante and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Jeff Shearin  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On today’s episode, Messi retires from team Argentina, and Druski has a new hilarious skit about a very serious disease. Plus, scammers come in every color (even 49ers red and gold), ICE is still out there grabbing folks, underdog Angie Nixon’s win in Florida ruffles some feathers, and Louisiana's own Master P deals with some backlash of his own doing. Van and Rachel discuss all this and more. (00:00) Welcome to Higher Learning (06:07) Messi has retired from Argentina’s national team (14:35) Druski’s newest skit makes headlines (36:02) Fool’s gold (57:52) Milo Yiannopoulos detained and deported by ICE (1:09:38) Republican House introduces resolution to condemn socialism (1:25:58) The gloves are off: Angie Nixon vs. Laura Loomer (1:38:35) Master P makes ‘em say “HUH?” Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Marco Escalante and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On today’s show, Van and Lindsay discuss the loss of Dolly Parton and her impact on the Black community. They react to the Supreme Court handing Trump a “YUGE” win with mail-in ballots and Abdul El-Sayed’s devastating takedown of Jesse Watters. Plus, they dig into Meta’s ginormous payout, Darth Vader’s defense of Flock cameras, and Jelly Roll getting political while hosting 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!'(00:00) Welcome to Higher Learning(00:36) Colin Kaepernick pulls his books from Target shelves(18:49) Dolly Parton passes away at 80 years old(29:50) New ownership duo in San Diego(40:54) SCOTUS hands Trump a huge victory(58:52) Abdul El-Sayed takes down Jesse Watters(120:44) Meta to shell out billions and add protections for kids(1:36:23) Darth Vader stands up for Flock cameras(1:49:06) Jelly Roll hosts 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!'Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel LindsayProducers: Marco Escalante and Jade WhaleySocial Producer: Bernard MooreVideo Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We got BEEF! Today Van and Rachel talk about Trump’s beef with American cattle ranchers. Then they get into the latest developments in the Karmelo Anthony trial, and Target is under fire for a racist costume. Plus, right-winger Jake Lang becomes Spider-Man’s latest target, and Van and Rachel talk about the not-so-secret (anymore) meeting between potential House majority leader Hakeem Jeffries and Jared Kushner. Plus, AI royalty King Willonius joins us in studio to chat about AI and "BBL Drizzy."(00:00) Welcome to Higher Learning(01:05) Kanter kicked out(04:56) Where’s the beef?(20:39) The latest in the Karmelo Anthony case(45:26) Target in hot water … again(52:54) Spider-Man fights for the people(01:04:16) Hakeem Jeffries secretly meets with Jared Kushner(01:125:07) King Willonius in studio(02:07:35) Van is for law and orderHosts: Van Lathan and Rachel LindsayGuest: King WilloniusProducers: Marco Escalante and Jade WhaleySocial Producer: Bernard MooreVideo Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Van and Rachel chat about the NABJ’s website and its ongoing feud with Stephen A. Smith before catching up on Indiana’s harrowing storms that have left tens of thousands without power. Then they dig into the alleged cocaine ring at one of Penn State’s fraternities and then welcome California Congressman Ro Khanna live in studio. Plus, our hosts give us their thoughts on Young Thug’s interesting comments on fame vs. riches. (00:00) Welcome to Higher Learning (01:05) Stephen A. Smith and NABJ's beef continues (12:37) Indiana left powerless by brutal storm (25:09) 14 charged in alleged drug ring at Penn State (33:13) Ro Khanna joins us in studio (01:41:57) Young Thug has some interesting thoughts Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Marco Escalante and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Stephen A. Smith Receives “Thumbs Down” Award, Maya Boyd Is Your New Storm, James Talarico’s Strategic Ad Campaign, and Ray J Defeats Orlando Brown in the RingVan and Rachel pay tribute to actress Hayden Panettiere and Jason Arday. They also discuss James Talarico’s campaign ad against Ken Paxton. Plus, reactions to the Ray J vs. Orlando Brown boxing match and a discussion on Stephen A. Smith receiving the “Thumbs Down” award from the NABJ. Plus, an in-depth discussion on the casting of Maya Boyd in Marvel’s new X-Men movie, coming in 2028. (0:00) Intro(0:33) Weekend pleasantries/Al Green and grits(8:19) Weekend pleasantries/Dreams(20:59) Hayden Panettiere gone too soon(29:02) Maya Boyd cast as Storm in Marvel’s new X-Men movie(46:19) Jason Arday passes away at 41(01:04:07) Pengate 2026(01:15:06) Ray J wins big(0244) Van on capitalismHosts: Van Lathan and Rachel LindsayProducers: Marco Escalante and Jade WhaleySocial Producer: Bernard MooreVideo Supervision: Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Van and Rachel react to Russell Westbrook’s retirement, Tyga’s AI album ‘$tarface’, and Marcellus Wiley’s domestic violence case being dropped, before discussing Pat McAfee’s appearance with President Trump. Plus, Saucy Santana addresses a White House repost and code-switching gets defined before Van whips out the whiteboard to debate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s dating options. (0:00) Intro (11:02) Russell Westbrook retires from NBA (22:24) Tyga’s AI album, ’$tarface’ (44:46) Marcellus Wiley’s case dropped (1:11:13) Pat McAfee and Trump at the Patriot Games (1:25:09) Saucy Santana’s White House repost (1:40:55) Code-switching (1:59:28) AOC’s dating pool Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Van and Rachel debate "capitalism" before discussing accusations of an Usher body double and Drake’s content creation. Plus, Kamala Harris speaks on what’s needed from the Democrats, and Van breaks down the X-Men vs. the Avengers. (0:00) Intro (6:34) A capitalism conversation (51:37) Usher using body doubles? (1:00:51) Drake’s stream (1:20:56) Kamala Harris and "ruthless" Democrats (1:40:13) X-Men vs. Avengers Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Van and Rachel react to results from the August primary races, Sophie Cunningham weighing in on trans athletes, A$AP Rocky opening up to Jason Lee. Then, author and political leader Stacey Abrams returns to weigh in on the ongoing fight for voting rights. (0:00) Intro (5:39) Primary race results (19:26) Sophie Cunningham on trans athletes (30:01) A$AP Rocky on his relationship with Rihanna (42:25) Stacey Abrams joins the show (1:40:10) Did Van see this?  Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Stacey Abrams Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Van and Rachel react to Spider-Man’s big box office weekend before switching gears to talk about RFK Jr.’s on-air meltdown and Governor Wes Moore’s chummy exchange with a Trump official. Then actor, writer, and producer Diarra Kilpatrick joins to talk about Season 2 of the hit show 'Diarra From Detroit.' (0:00) Intro (0:15) ‘Spider-Man: Brand New Day’ box office (8:42) RFK Jr.’s on-air meltdown (23:51) Governor Wes Moore and "across-the-aisle" politics (1:00:42) Diarra Kilpatrick joins the show Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Diarra Kilpatrick Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Van and Rachel discuss tragedy and personas in rap, and updates in the Nolan Wells case before diving into President Trump’s attempts at voter suppression. Then Jonathan Majors speaks, the author of ’Children of Blood and Bone’ distances herself from the film, and Usher’s interaction with a fan sparks debate. (0:00) Intro (7:46) The Madden curse (27:48) Gun violence and 21 Savage (40:37) Update on the Nolan Wells case (54:07) Mail-in voting restrictions (1:07:21) The punishing of Jonathan Majors (1:20:46) The ‘Children of Blood and Bone’ controversy (1:39:01) Usher kicks fan off stage Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Van and Rachel react to the recasting of Black Panther, a cheating scandal in the WNBA, and the White House Correspondents' Dinner before welcoming actor Kerry Washington to discuss the revival of ‘The Whoopi Monologues’ and the importance of theater. Plus, Representative James Clyburn says Black voters let Kamala down, and a respectability politics discussion about Tuskegee University. (0:00) Intro (20:08) David Jonsson is Black Panther (29:36) WNBA cheating scandal (39:17) White House Correspondents Dinner (52:26) Kerry Washington joins the show (1:28:09) Representative James Clyburn and the argument for term limits (1:48:40) Tuskegee University’s dress code (2:02:40) Has Rachel seen this? Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Kerry Washington Producer: Donnie Beacham Jr. Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Van and Rachel react to both ESPN’s decision to lay off Ryan Clark and LeBron’s decision to drag out free agency. Then, New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani says he can’t arrest Benjamin Netanyahu, and the Trump administration freezes Medicaid funding for CA and MN. And finally, a debate about the placement of a controversially titled book on a former NBA head coach's desk. (0:00) Intro (27:42) Ryan Clark and the ESPN layoffs (1:00:07) Mamdani’s message to Netanyahu (1:21:25) Medicaid funds frozen (1:46:21) House GOP advances plan to fund SAVE America Act (1:56:14) George Karl and displaying the book 'N-----' Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Van and Rachel have a spoiler-filled discussion of the newly streaming film ‘Obsession,’ before reacting to the success of 'The Odyssey.' Then, controversy in the WNBA warrants an apology rating, the Tate brothers are arrested, the military’s testing testosterone, and Fox News is joking about sexual assault. Then, ESPN executive VP David Roberts joins to discuss his career and massive impact on the sports broadcasting industry. (0:00) Intro (14:57) SPOILERS: An ‘Obsession’ discussion (47:27) ‘The Odyssey’ success (58:37) Angel Reese and the “protected species” comment (1:13:36) Andrew and Tristan Tate’s arrest (1:21:48) Jesse Watters, Pete Hegseth, and testosterone (1:34:25) Dave Roberts joins the show (2:09:28) John Fetterman threatens to leave Democratic Party Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: David Roberts Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Van and Rachel react to a problematic Hollywood Reporter article and some Christian blacklash for KevOnStage, before discussing Boosie’s failed efforts to get a pardon and recent killings at the hands of ICE. Then Rachel gives her list of “top five finest men.” (0:00) Intro (24:38) New face of Hollywood (46:08) KevOnStage upsets some fans (1:05:27) Boosie’s pardon play (1:17:32) Memphis Bleek and community (1:34:48) ICE shootings (1:54:24) Rachel’s finest (2:02:18) Remembering a community hero Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Van and Rachel react to the death of Senator Lindsey Graham and the speculation around the health of Senator Mitch McConnell before digging into Jay-Z’s mention of Colin Kaepernick at a recent performance. (0:00) Intro (27:25) Rachel’s porkless week (29:52) World Cup updates (33:29) Reactions to Lindsey Graham’s death (56:21) Mitch McConnell speculation (1:00:45) Jay-Z disses Colin Kaepernick (1:51:31) Rachel’s “Finest” (1:54:26) Revenge of the Bison Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices