Mato
ShowsHow it worksAI talentsFree toolsPricing
Book a demo
ShowsHow it worksAI talentsFree toolsPricingSign in
Mato
Mato

The first generation of AI talents. Live AI media for brands, networks and creators.

ElevenLabs GrantsAWS ActivateGoogle for StartupsNVIDIA Inception Program

Product

  • How it works
  • AI talents
  • Documentation
  • The studio
  • Pricing
  • Embed player
  • Mato MCP
  • Mato Voice
  • Voice Studio
  • Changelog

Company

  • About
  • Vision
  • Partners
  • Affiliates
  • Blog
  • CustomersComing soon
  • CareersComing soon
  • Press kit
  • Contact

Resources

  • Investor overview
  • Free podcast tools
  • Free podcast transcription
  • Podcast ROI calculator
  • API docsComing soon
  • SecurityComing soon
  • StatusComing soon

© 2026 Mato. All rights reserved.

English · Multiple languages available

PrivacyTerms

Live Interview

And why does that matter?

This is how a Mato agent talks. Take the other seat: answer a few and feel it follow the thread.

Try it yourself

Podcast charts

The Hedge

Published by Russ White

  • Technology

culture eats technology for breakfast

Listen on Apple Podcasts, opens in a new tabMake something like it

On the charts

1 chart placement

Every published chart this podcast appears in, in the snapshot behind this page. Each one links to the chart it came off.

  1. Number 191TechnologyNorway

From the feed

Recent episodes

The latest episodes published to this podcast’s own RSS feed. Titles and descriptions are the publisher’s.

  1. Hedge 319: Using AI from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Sep 18, 202653 min

    AI is everywhere. While there are many questions about whether AI is a bubble, the ethics of AI, and the cultural impact of AI, in this episode of the Hedge Mike Bushong joins Eyvonne, Tom, and Russ to talk about how network engineers can use AI. Are some use cases better than others? Are there pitfalls network engineers should avoid? Listen in and find out. https://media.blubrry.com/hedge/media.blubrry.com/hedge/content.blubrry.com/hedge/hedge-319.mp3 download

  2. Hedge 318: Parkinson’s Law (and Bastiat) from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Sep 11, 202634 min

    It's time for Eyvonne, Tom, and Russ to gather round the hedge and talk about various items of interest. In this roundtable, we consider what we can learn about product development from Bastiat, and the various ins and outs of Parkinson's Law. https://media.blubrry.com/hedge/media.blubrry.com/hedge/content.blubrry.com/hedge/hedge-318.mp3 download

  3. Hedge 317: AI Tools and Coding from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Aug 28, 202649 min

    How effective are AI tools--even agentic AI tools placed into a system--at building and testing software? Derick Winkworth and Donald Sharp Join Russ to discuss various projects they've worked on using AI tools, lessons they've learned, and how developers can make effective use of AI.

  4. Hedge 316: AI Governance from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Aug 20, 202643 min

    Deploying AI for AI Ops, or even just for general use in your network, is very simple--but we often forget that these kinds of new technologies need to be governed. From privacy through cost, operators need to decide how to govern their AI deployments to control costs, ensure accuracy, measure productivity, and make certain these systems are being used effectively. Colin Cosgrove joins Russ and Tom to look at AI governance.

  5. Hedge Classics 17: Strong Opinions Loosely Held from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Aug 14, 202631 min

    Strong opinions loosely held? This is probably not as good of an idea as it seems. Instead of producing confidence, it might produce overconfidence. Michael Natkin joins Tom and Russ to discuss the problems with this mantra.

  6. Hedge 315: Engineering Psychology from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Aug 7, 202647 min

    We often talk about "human infrastructure" in network engineering--but what does this mean, and how do we help engineers "produce" while helping them to flourish as individuals? Catherine Hicks joins Tom and Russ to discuss the psychology of software engineering, and how the lessons learned apply to network engineering. https://media.blubrry.com/hedge/media.blubrry.com/hedge/content.blubrry.com/hedge/hedge-315.mp3 download You can find Catherine's new book on the psychology of software engineering here. If you would like to follow Catherine's writing in this area, including the impact of AI on work, you can find her blog here. You can connect with Catherine on LinkedIn.

  7. Hedge 314: Questions from a New Engineer from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Aug 1, 202653 min

    Sometimes we can be so focused on the problems in front of us that we forget the people who are following in our footsteps. Michael McCollum, a new network engineer, joins Tom and Russ to ask questions about life as a network engineer.

  8. Hedge 313: Out of Band Management Networks from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Jul 24, 202642 min

    Most designers and operators default to carrying all traffic--including network management traffic--across the same paths as application data, or in band. Is this the right choice, or should operators seriously consider creating an out-of-band network just for network management? If you decide to build an out-of-band network, what are some of the considerations and lessons learned? Daryll Swer joins Tom and Russ to discuss.

  9. Hedge 312: Keys and DNS from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Jul 17, 202647 min

    The entire technology world has, for decades, treated the IP address as a shorthand host identifier. This is clearly not the way IP was designed, but what are our other choices? In this episode of the Hedge, Scott Robohn joins Russ And Tom to discuss a recent paper arguing cryptographic keys should be the primary host identifier, and another article on the centrality of DNS to the Internet.

  10. Hedge 311: The Dangers of AI from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Jul 9, 202651 min

    We are often told that if engineers who don't go "all in" on AI will be left behind. While there are a few voices who argue that AI can be a dangerous tool, impacting not only the quality of our work, but the very quality of our thinking skills. Doug Smith, a critic of using AI for engineering, joins this episode of the Hedge to argue the contrary view of AI. What are the dangers of relying on AI?

  11. Hedge 310: AI Ops from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Jul 3, 202642 min

    What is AI Ops, and how can it be useful for your network? Akshay Balaganur and Sushanth Mascaren join Tom and Russ to discuss various aspects of AI Ops.

  12. Hedge 309: DNS Persist from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Jun 19, 202637 min

    As DNS is more widely used to distribute certificate information, proving ownership of a resource becomes more critical. The constant challenges required to prove resource ownership, however, increase delay in connecting or using a resource. DNS persists--as the name implies--creates a persistent connection between a resource and a certificate authority. Henry Birge-Lee, Michael Slaughter, and Shiloh Heurich join Russ and Tom to explain how this new record type works and it's importance to DNS.

  13. Hedge 308: Hidden Competence from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Jun 11, 202636 min

    We all talk about how engineers deal with imposter syndrome--but we don't often talk about the experience of making things work "in the background." What is competence, and what do we do when competence isn't recognized? Justin Wilson (j2sw) joins Russ and Tom to discuss. https://media.blubrry.com/hedge/media.blubrry.com/hedge/content.blubrry.com/hedge/hedge-308.mp3 download

  14. Best of the Hedge: Episode 15, Supporting Open Source from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Jun 5, 202639 min

    Many companies rely on open source, regardless of whether or not they realize it. In this best of the Hedge episode, Alistair Woodman joins Russ White and Tom Ammon to talk about not only why you should support the open source projects you use, but how you can. https://media.blubrry.com/hedge/content.blubrry.com/hedge/hedge-015.mp3 @nbsp; download $nbsp; Reposting a classic episode this week because I was out of town and didn't get around to editing an episode.

  15. Hedge 307: bgproutes.io from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    May 29, 202645 min

    If you advertise routes into the default free zone (or global Internet), you might struggle with seeing and understanding what they look like "on the other side." While there are many manual tools to help operators with this process, bgproutes.io gives you visibility in the global routing table through interfaces like BMP. Listen to this episode of the Hedge to learn more.

  16. Hedge 306: RPKI Transport from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    May 22, 202658 min

    Synchronizing information across the Internet, at an initial glance, looks like a fairly simple problem to solve. Just copy a file to a host and create a magic protocol, right? Not really. Each kind of data has a fairly unique set of requirements--and RPKI data, used to provide security information for BGP, is no different. Job Snijders joins Tom and Russ to talk about ERIK, a protocol developed to synchronize RPKI records.

  17. Hedge 305: From Security to Networking from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    May 15, 202630 min

    We don't often hear the stories of those who move from some other IT career field into network engineering. Ayush Mishra, a student at University of Colorado Boulder, joins Tom and Russ to discuss why he moved from security to network engineering.

  18. Hedge 304: Deep Dive into a Network Master’s Program from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    May 8, 202636 min

    If you've ever been curious about what an advanced degree in network engineering looks like, you'll want to join us for this episode of the Hedge. Levi Perigo from the University of Colorado at Boulder joins Tom and Russ to talk through what earning a Master's in Networking involves and what kinds of things you would learn.

  19. Hedge 303: Data Centers? from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Apr 23, 202631 min

    In this roundtable episode of the Hedge, Eyvonne, Tom, and Russ hang out and talk about data centers--why are we building all these things again? Our second topic is the FCC's ban on non-US made home routers. Was this the right thing to do? Was it the wrong thing to do? Were there any other policy options?

  20. Hedge 302: Communications in Biological Systems from The Hedge, opens in a new tab

    Apr 17, 202654 min

    What does biology have to do with computer networks? Much more than you might think. Communications systems, after all, need to solve the same problems--and they often use the same kinds of tools. In this episode of the Hedge, Emily Reeves and Joe Deweese join Russ and Tom to talk about a recent paper comparing computer communications to biological communications.

Ranking source

Apple Podcasts rankings via the Mato Topic Intelligence Platform.

Observed September 20, 2026.

Apple and Apple Podcasts are trademarks of Apple Inc., registered in the U.S. and other countries.

Pairs with

What to do with a chart

01ShowsThe shows Mato publishesEvery public Mato show, its episodes, and the Apple placements it holds.02AI talentPick the voice before the formatThe live roster of hosts, each with samples you can listen to before you commit.03How it worksFrom an idea to a published episodeWhat Mato does between the brief and the feed, step by step.

Steal the structure, not the show

Bring this source into Mato to read its transferable patterns, then turn them into an original show for your own audience.

Hear a Mato showCreate a show inspired by this