Brush & Banter | A Zibra Podcast

Abby Askew hit a massive milestone last year when she bought her first home as a direct result of building her furniture flipping business and content brand, @FlippedByAbby. Now she's been taking viewers along the renovation journey, filling it with vintage treasures and DIY projects. This is Abby's story of how she started with curb alerts and Facebook Marketplace flips as a side hustle, scaled it into millions of followers across platforms, and turned the transformation documentation into income. She believes in spilling the tea, sharing the actual numbers, the strategies, the profit margins, because transparency doesn't threaten your success; it builds community. In this conversation, she walks us through how she actually monetized it, what quality furniture really looks like (solid wood vs. the stuff that won't resell), the brutal reality of comments from strangers, and why she deleted social media off her personal phone to protect her peace. Abby Askew is a social media influencer and content creator with a BFA in Furniture Design from Savannah College of Art and Design. Based in Orange Park, Florida, she built Flipped by Abby into a thriving content and business brand across Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and Facebook. She created online courses to help followers learn how to flip furniture for profit and maintains a blog with DIY project guidance. Connect with Abby: IG Website YouTube TikTok LinkedIn Creative finds: Secondhand Spaces with Abby Askew In this episode, we discuss: How Abby turned furniture flipping from a side hustle into full-time income and eventually homeownership The business side of things like sourcing, pricing, and selling, etc How to spot quality furniture (solid wood, dovetail joints) vs. the stuff that won't move Why her content shifted from "making money off flips" to "documenting the transformation itself" Harsh internet comments, unsolicited ADHD diagnoses, and why she deleted social media off her personal phone The truth about the 17 to 1 rule, from an actual psychologist Filling her first home with intention, one small project at a time (and loving what you've made) Why she "spills the tea" about money and numbers, and why transparency on income doesn't threaten her success House hunting for the ultimate fixer-upper in Florida (Where the Crawdads Sing energy) Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

Most artists treat seasonal work as a gamble - feast when demand peaks, hustle for leads when it doesn't. Lindsey Stimpson Lewis - owner of Lindsey Mae Art - flipped the script. By building a loyal roster of clients who lock her in a full year in advance, she's turned seasonal work into predictable, recurring revenue. In this episode, she walks through her "Christmas in July" booking strategy, how she manages capacity with a priority system, and why eliminating the constant churn of new client acquisition is the real business move. Lindsey Stimpson Lewis is a Winston-Salem–based muralist and window painter who specializes in large-scale custom work for residential and commercial clients. After spending years painting sculptures at her husband's metal fabrication company, she went full-time with her own business and built it around predictable, recurring seasonal revenue by cultivating a roster of year-in-advance clients. Connect with Lindsey: Website IG Creative finds: Zibra's NEW 1" Angled Brush is coming soon! Keep your eyes peeled on enjoyzibra.com and use code BANTER10 for 10% off your order. In this episode, we discuss: Why Lindsey Mae's "Christmas in July" booking strategy works and how to use it with your own client base How a priority system for repeat customers eliminates constant new lead acquisition Why capacity planning is actually the competitive advantage in seasonal creative work What Lindsey Mae's business coach helped her figure out about strategy and scaling How predictable seasonal revenue beats year-round client churn Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

Lacey Hennessy’s art career started with painted fraternity coolers at Clemson and a Facebook business page she named during accounting class. Years later, one Instagram post about wanting to paint a mural led to a taco restaurant project that paid the equivalent of one month of her corporate salary in three days. In this episode, Lacey explains how she grew that experiment into Lacey Does, a commission-driven business with more than 300 murals and a client process built around clear expectations. She breaks down her “box method” for matching a mural’s scope to the client’s budget, why she collects 50% before beginning the design, and how detailed contracts helped other muralists take over her scheduled projects after a colorectal cancer diagnosis. Lacey also shares the hands-on Instagram strategy that grew her audience, her plans to build income beyond murals, and how she protects roughly 10 weeks each year for travel. Plus, why it would take a truly unreasonable amount of money to get her painting fraternity coolers again. Lacey Hennessy is the Greenville, South Carolina-based artist, muralist, and entrepreneur behind Lacey Does. Her bold, playful work spans murals, custom commissions, originals, prints, textiles, licensing projects, and coaching for other artists. Connect with Lacey: Website IG TikTok Facebook Creative finds: The 1" Angled Brush officially joins the Zibra lineup on September 17! Save 10% on your Zibra order with code BANTER10 . In this episode, we discuss: How one Instagram goal led to Lacey’s first mural… and $6,500 in three days Why she replaced Hennessy in the Home with a personal brand that leaves room for murals, textiles, licensing, and future partnerships How the “box method” gives clients clear choices based on their wall, priorities, and budget Why painting is step seven in Lacey’s 10-step mural process How collecting 50% upfront protects the value of the concept and design work Why detailed contracts and a trusted muralist network kept her projects moving during cancer treatment How targeted engagement, batch content, and shameless self-promotion helped grow her audience without turning every post into a sales pitch Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

Hannah Eddy has built a career across murals, snowboards, apparel, products, and gallery walls while keeping her bold colors and playful characters easy to spot. Her roots in skate and snowboard culture helped turn old camp connections into collaborations with Vans, Patagonia, Hydro Flask, and more. She opens up about the project choices, business boundaries, and lifestyle decisions that protect her creative energy. You’ll hear how she stays easy to hire while keeping the work unmistakably hers. Hannah Eddy is a Reno-based artist and muralist known for bold color, crisp lines, playful landscapes, and recurring characters influenced by skateboarding, snowboarding, and the outdoors. Her work appears across murals, gallery walls, skateboards, apparel, products, and collaborations with brands including Vans, Patagonia, Santa Cruz Skateboards, and Hydro Flask. Connect with Hannah: IG Website Hannah Eddy at Gallery ERGO Hannah Eddy at ABV Gallery Creative Finds: The 1" Angled Brush is coming back for good. Keep an eye on enjoyzibra.com for the drop date and save 10% on your Zibra order with code BANTER10 . In this episode, we discuss: Why a recognizable style can make the right brand projects easier to land – and the wrong ones easier to decline. A look at how years inside the skate and snowboard community opened doors no cold pitch could force. What Hannah’s camper, six off-grid years, and low-overhead life taught her about protecting creative freedom. Why a one-year licensing term can keep an artist’s characters from quietly slipping out of their control. What artists often overlook when Instagram starts replacing gallery openings, local art nights, and actual conversations. Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

One artist joined the voting push with 26 votes while another submission had more than 300. Another almost skipped the application altogether. In this Golden Brush Awards roundtable, Eugene O’Neill, Sophie Groenstein, Julia Kenyon, Sydney Rae, and Sabah Bardhan unpack the decisions behind five winning pieces: painting a monumental portrait of Buddhist nun Jun Son while working until 2 a.m., layering exterior house paint to create a saturated hometown portrait, earning a client’s trust for bright orange-and-blue peacocks, experimenting on the wall to recreate coffee-watercolor texture, and wrestling with a human figure and one particularly stubborn set of hands inside a Denver restaurant. The recognition gave each artist fresh evidence that the risky idea, unfamiliar technique, or last-minute submission was worth following through. Eugene O’Neill, Sophie Groenstein, Julia Kenyon, Sydney Rae, and Sabah Bardhan are the artists behind five winning projects from Zibra’s 2025 Golden Brush Awards. Their work spans large-scale community murals, portraiture, restaurant interiors, coffee-inspired realism, and a peacock-covered anniversary chest. Connect with the 2025 Golden Brush Award winners: Eugene O’Neill – Transformation of the Year IG Website Sophie Groenstein – Color Crush IG Website Julia Kenyon – Vision to Reality IG Website TikTok Sydney Rae – Stroke of Genius IG Website Facebook My Mural Studio Sabah Bardhan – Detail Devotion IG Website Facebook Creative finds: The 2025 Golden Brush Awards Muralgarten Sunny Dayz Mural Festival My Mural Studio A Quick Note from Zibra: 🚨 Zibra’s most-requested brush size drops July 30… The NEW 1/8-inch Detail Brush will be available in square, triangle, and round. Use code BANTER10 for 10% off when you shop the launch at enjoyzibra.com ! In this episode, we discuss: How Eugene rallied real-life community groups after seeing his 26 votes next to another entry’s 300-plus Why full creative freedom became its own challenge when Eugene chose to paint Buddhist nun and peace activist Jun Son How Sophie layered exterior house paint to give Tulsi its saturated color and velvety softness How sample swatches helped Sabah earn a client’s trust for a bold orange-and-blue peacock design Why Sydney spent extra time experimenting with coffee-inspired texture instead of falling back on her usual crisp lines How Julia used a human figure, difficult hands, flowing smoke, and white space to create movement inside a Denver restaurant How recognition helped Sophie advocate for bolder color, Julia pursue travel work, and Sydney seek more textured commercial murals Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

Abby Pawley started by painting surfboards in Virginia Beach, then said yes to a 50-foot mural festival wall that changed everything. Five years later, her work has shown up in Amazon’s main entrance, an IKEA Monet collaboration, local landmarks, and commercial spaces across her community. Abby shares how she left a warehouse job with no perfect plan, followed up until clients answered, handled the panic of large-scale projects, and learned to keep painting through the ugly middle when even she needed to trust the process. She also talks honestly about AI-generated client requests, social media pressure, public rejection, and the kind of persistence that can turn a “no” into the next wall. Abby Pawley is the Virginia Beach artist and muralist behind Pawley Prints, creating colorful murals, coastal-inspired pieces, and large-scale commercial work for brands and local spaces. Based in Virginia Beach, her work carries the influence of her high school art teachers, who encouraged her early on, and the community that helped her grow. Connect with Abby: Website IG TikTok Creative Finds: Zibra 1/8" Detail Brush – our most requested size, launching July 30 at enjoyzibra.com (use code BANTER10 for 10% off) In this episode, we discuss: Why Abby left her warehouse job after her first mural, even without a perfect plan How steady follow-up helped turn an Amazon referral into a real project Why referrals still require persistence, clear communication, and self-advocacy What changes when your work moves from small surfaces to 50-foot walls How artists can get through the ugly middle of a project without spiraling Why Abby’s most effective social media posts are often the simple, honest ones How sharing rejection can build trust with your audience and help other artists keep going Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

Every creative starts in “yes mode.” Say yes to every project, every client, every opportunity, because that’s how you grow. But at some point, that pace stops working. In this minisode, Jen Talley, Courtney Wiesel, Alli K Designs, and the Off the Walls Murals team share what changed when they started getting more selective. Turning down projects that don’t fit. Referring work instead of forcing it. Protecting time, energy, and family life. These are the decisions that shape a business you can actually keep up with. If you’ve been stretched thin or stuck taking on work that doesn’t feel like you anymore, this conversation brings you back to what matters, and shows how saying no creates space for better work, better clients, and a business that fits your life. In this episode, you’ll hear: Why Jen Talley shifted from saying yes to everything to choosing projects that actually fit her life and direction What changes when you stop trying to be everything to everyone and start building around your strengths How Alli K Designs handles out-of-scope requests by referring, delegating, or bringing in the right people instead of doing it all How understanding your market helps you say no with confidence, and avoid work that won’t sell or scale The mindset shift that helps you price, choose, and operate like your ideal client. The Off the Walls Murals team’s approach to setting work hours, protecting family time, and keeping the business sustainable Hit rewind on these episodes: Selling on Marketplace in 2026 with Jen Talley of Perfectly Imperfect Furniture Refinishing Coming Back From a Creative Break with Courtney Weisel of Steel Birch Studios Setting Your Prices as an Artist with Alli K Design Building a Creative Business with Your Best Friend feat. Caroline & Tianna of Off the Walls Murals Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

Pricing your work is your favorite guessing game, you say? Don’t worry. For most artists, it’s their least favorite - and frankly, it shouldn’t have to feel like one. This minisode gets real about the messy middle between undercharging, overthinking, and learning the hard way, with honest perspective from Alli K Design, the Off the Walls Murals team, and Kyle Mosher. From showing up to walls way bigger than expected to losing thousands on early mistakes no one warns you about, these are the moments that actually shape how artists start pricing with confidence. What comes through isn’t a perfect formula (because there isn’t one), but something more useful: a grounded way to think about your numbers, your time, and your value, built through curiosity, community, and experience. If you’ve ever second-guessed a quote or wondered if you’re doing it “right,” this one will feel like a conversation you didn’t know you needed. In this episode, you’ll hear: Why pricing murals will never be a plug-and-play formula, and what to do instead How Alli K approaches pricing through curiosity, community, and asking better questions What a certain muralist learned about time, energy, and setting boundaries (including charging for site visits) The real cost of early business mistakes… and how Kyle Mosher turned them into better systems Why outsourcing the parts of your business you avoid can actually make you more money How to balance being the artist and the operator without burning out The bigger vision behind Off The Walls Murals’ work – and how pricing well allows you to give back in a sustainable way Hit rewind on these episodes: Setting Your Prices as an Artist with Alli K Design Booking Brand Collabs with Artist Kyle Mosher Building a Creative Business with Your Best Friend feat. Caroline & Tianna of Off the Walls Murals Resources mentioned: Make-A-Wish Foundation United Way Children in Crisis Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

Marketing advice online often pushes creators toward trends, virality, and constant output, but it turns out that’s not what actually builds a sustainable business. This minisode brings together insights from Shannon McKinstrie, Off the Walls Murals, and Alyssa Vilardi to show what really moves the needle: clear messaging, content that makes people feel connected, and paying attention to the metrics that actually matter (like retention, not just reach). It’s a shift from chasing spikes to building something steady, from underpricing to standing behind your value, and from guessing what works to creating with intention, so that your marketing feels like an extension of your work, not something separate from it. In this episode, you’ll hear: Why building genuine community matters more than chasing one viral moment The one element that stops the scroll (and it's not what you think) The metric Instagram cares about that most creators ignore Why designing for the algorithm doesn't mean losing yourself The pricing mistake almost every creative makes How certification turns assistants into brand ambassadors The financial sustainability detail most creatives overlook Hit rewind on these episodes: Social Media Expert Shannon McKinstrie Tells Us How to Grow on Instagram Turning DIY, Motherhood, and Mess Into a Creative Business with Alyssa Vilardi of The Things We Built Building a Creative Business with Your Best Friend feat. Caroline & Tianna of Off the Walls Murals Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

Creators spend years trying to define “their style,” but what if it’s already there, just not fully formed yet? This minisode pulls together honest moments from Cyn, Alyssa Vilardi, and Lauren Hull with Olga Muzician, tracing the real path of finding your style: evolving through client work, pushing through the “ugly phase,” and slowly recognizing the patterns that make your work yours. It’s less about discovering something new and more about noticing what’s been building all along, and having the confidence to follow it. In this episode, you’ll hear: Why your art style is already forming (even if you can’t see it yet) How pushing through the “ugly phase” leads to your best work What experimenting across projects teaches you about your style faster than waiting How recurring elements and influences make your work recognizable over time Why sharing the messy, behind-the-scenes process builds a stronger audience connection How confidence with clients helps protect and refine your creative voice Hit rewind on these episodes: Landing Paid Art Projects with Major Brands & Finding Your Creative Voice with Cyn of Chalk & Brush Turning DIY, Motherhood, and Mess Into a Creative Business with Alyssa Vilardi of The Things We Built The Messy Middle of a Project... And Your Career as an Artist | Reflecting on Creative Beginnings with Olga Muzician & Lauren Hull Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

When you’re flipping furniture, the biggest shift isn’t learning how to paint – it’s learning what’s actually worth your time. This minisode pulls together real-world perspectives from Jen Talley, Lauren Hull, Olga Muzician and Courtney Weisel on how they balance creativity with demand, choose pieces that will sell, and avoid projects that quietly drain profit. From simplifying your style to setting boundaries around what you won’t take on, this is about creating with intention so your work stays both sustainable and rewarding. In this minisode, we’re rewinding the actionable and inspiring soundbites from their Brush & Banter interviews to help you turn your passion into profit. In this episode, you’ll hear: Why “simple and timeless” often outsells trendy or overworked pieces How to balance your creative style with what buyers actually want What to look for when sourcing furniture (and what to avoid) The hidden cost of time, and how it impacts your profit per piece When to say no to projects (even when it’s hard) to prevent burnout How diversifying your style can expand your market without losing your identity Hit rewind on these episodes: Selling on Marketplace in 2026 with Jen Talley of Perfectly Imperfect Furniture Refinishing The Messy Middle of a Project... And Your Career as an Artist | Reflecting on Creative Beginnings with Olga Muzician & Lauren Hull Coming Back From a Creative Break with Courtney Weisel of Steel Birch Studios Creative finds from the episodes: Melange Paints - Jen’s discount code mentioned: JEN10 Brushes mentioned (use code BANTER10 for 10% off): Artist Brush Set - Small Palm Artist - 1” Flat Paintbrush Zibra’s “Bundle & Save” Sets Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

When you’re ready to turn your passion projects into income, it can be difficult and overwhelming to know where to start. Enter Kyle Mosher, Alli K., and Cyn Santos, working artists who have cracked the code to make more money as an artist without sacrificing your creativity. In this minisode, we’re rewinding the actionable and inspiring soundbites from their Brush & Banter interviews to help you turn your passion into profit. In this episode, you’ll hear: How Kyle Mosher built an artist-in-residence program to build the brand for an apartment complex Why Alli K. said “no” to projects more often even as competition increased How Cyn Santos leveraged her website to reach the right clients Presenting yourself as an influencer vs. a contractor Negotiating brand collaborations so you have creative freedom as the artist Hit rewind on these episodes: Booking Brand Collabs with Kyle Mosher Setting Your Prices as an Artist with Alli K Design Landing Paid Art Projects with Major Brands & Finding Your Creative Voice with Cyn of Chalk & Brush Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

What does it actually take to build a mural business that lasts more than a decade… and still feels steady? Alli Koch shares the behind-the-scenes structure that supports her 11-year career: outsourcing before burnout hits, building a personal “board of directors,” charging for site visits, and pricing based on context instead of formulas. She talks candidly about setting boundaries even when it’s tricky - like saying “no” to free work (even for family). From being approached to publish art books to installing a 25-foot public sculpture, Alli’s story is a reminder that longevity isn’t about doing more, it’s about doing the right work, with the right boundaries, at the right pace. Alli Koch is a Texas-based muralist, author, and sculptor known for her large-scale public art and modern how-to drawing books. With 11 years in business and repeat clients booking her into 2026, she mentors artists at every stage on building sustainable, confidence-led creative careers. Connect with Alli: IG Website Mentoring Creative Finds: Zibra Speed Drop (Redesigned) - use code BANTER10 for 10% off Alli K Designs Book Shop My Fancy Sticker Storybook by Alli K Designs In this episode, we discuss: The three-person “board of directors” that keeps self-doubt in check Why outsourcing isn’t indulgent, it’s how you protect your momentum Defining success by time freedom and relationships, not just revenue Pricing murals through community conversations, not rigid formulas Staying open to opportunity while holding firm boundaries around your worth Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

If Instagram feels harder than it used to, you’re not imagining it. Shannon McKinstrie sits down with Lauren and Brie to break down what’s actually driving growth right now, and it’s not chasing viral spikes. It’s retention, belonging, and messaging that makes people feel seen. They talk strong hooks (and her REP formula), why talk-to-camera reels convert better than trends, how to repurpose content within weeks instead of months, and how to use Stories to build real trust (even if your life feels “boring”). If you’ve been stuck in 200-view jail or burned out trying to keep up, this conversation will help you simplify your strategy and post with more intention, and a lot less pressure. Shannon McKinstrie is a social media strategist and educator who helps creators stop guessing and start posting with clarity. She’s the founder of Reels Lab and has helped thousands of business owners build sustainable Instagram strategies that actually convert. Connect with Shannon: Website Reels Lab Podcast Instagram TikTok LinkedIn Creative Finds: Zibra Edger Series Brush - use code BANTER10 for 10% off In this episode, we discuss: Why retention matters more than viral spikes in 2026 How to write stronger hooks using relatable identifiers Repurposing content within weeks (not months) to reduce burnout Using Stories to build trust and drive DMs Trial Reels as a low-pressure way to test talk-to-camera content Creating a posting schedule that prevents burnout Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

Furniture flipping looks dreamy from the outside: paint, pretty pieces, a tidy before-and-after, but Jen Talley pulls back the curtain on what actually makes it sustainable. This conversation sits in the quiet middle between passion and burnout: learning when to say yes, when to say no, and why boundaries are just as creative as brushstrokes. Jen shares how her business evolved from late-night hobby energy to an intentional, values-led rhythm; choosing better pieces, protecting her time, letting simplicity sell, and honoring the very human reasons this work matters. It’s grounded, honest, and deeply reassuring for anyone trying to turn “I love this” into “this actually works.” Jen Talley is a furniture artist known for her timeless, perfectly imperfect approach and a business built on intention over hustle. Her work blends classic design, thoughtful boundaries, and a deep belief that furniture, and creativity, can hold real meaning. Connect with Jen: IG Facebook YouTube Creative Finds: Melange Paints - Jen’s discount code mentioned: JEN10 Golden Brush Awards 2025 - Public voting opening February 13 In this episode, we discuss: When no becomes the most important business skill you can learn How intention, boundaries, and simplicity create longevity Why furniture doesn’t need more – it needs better (and simpler) The human stories behind the pieces we make and sell Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

Billie Asmus was tired of plastic paint liners, half-used trays drying out overnight, and trying to save paint with foil and plastic bags, so she started messing around in her basement to see if she could make something better. That curiosity turned into a reusable paint tray, a lot of Google searches, a year of prototyping and manufacturing, and eventually a moment standing in the Shark Tank longer than expected, fighting for the right partners. In this conversation, Billie walks through what it actually looked like to build the RePaint Tray from scratch, what surprised her most about running a product-based business, and how listening to everyday painters shaped both the product and the community that grew around it. Billie Asmus is the founder of RePaint Studios and the creator of the RePaint Tray, a reusable paint tray designed to make painting less wasteful and easier to pick back up. She comes from a furniture flipping and marketing background and built the product by testing it herself and listening closely to the people using it. Connect with RePaint Studios: Website IG TikTok Facebook Creative Finds: Zibra Edger Series Brush - use code BANTER10 for 10% off In this episode, we discuss: The $50 basement prototype that proved the idea was worth chasing What no one warns you about when you start manufacturing a physical product Why Billie stayed in the Shark Tank longer than expected, and how she decided who to fight for The design choices that came from real painter feedback, not trends How a paint tray unexpectedly helped people return to painting again What it looks like when a product becomes a community Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

Running a small business is hard. Running one with a friend can be even harder… and also incredibly rewarding. In this episode, Annie and Lauren sit down with Caroline and Tianna of Off the Walls Murals to talk about what it really looks like to build and grow a creative company together. From navigating money, pricing, and workload to handling conflict, communication, and long-term vision, this conversation pulls back the curtain on the systems, trust, and honesty required to protect both the business and the friendship. Caroline and Tianna are the co-founders of Off the Walls Murals, a community-driven mural company known for bold, thoughtful designs and large-scale transformations. Working as a creative duo, they’ve built a full-time mural business rooted in trust, aligned values, and a shared commitment to giving back. Connect with Off the Walls Murals: IG TikTok Facebook Website Creative Finds: Zibra Edger Series Brushes – use code BANTER10 for 10% off Sherwin-Williams Rooted Creative Conference Make-A-Wish Foundation United Way Children in Crisis In this episode, we discuss: How to run a creative business with a best friend without damaging the friendship The systems, communication habits, and trust that keep a partnership healthy as it grows Navigating money, pricing, and big decisions together with confidence and alignment Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

Think of this as a creative yearbook you didn’t have to sign: the three of us looking back at 2025’s biggest lessons, strangest pivots, messy moments, and unexpected joys. We unpack how Rooted reshaped our year, how podcasting shifted our sense of community, what’s changing for us as artists and business owners, and the habits we’re absolutely not dragging into 2026. Add in your “Spilled Paint” chaos, our words for the new year, and a rapid-fire Brie takeover, and you get a cozy, reflective, slightly chaotic episode that feels like a warm reset for creatives everywhere. Episodes Mentioned: The Glow-Up of a Creative Life | Style Evolution, Brand Collabs & Paid For With Art with Multidisciplinary Artist Kyle Mosher Landing Paid Art Projects with Major Brands & Finding Your Creative Voice with Cyn of Chalk & Brush Year-End Creative Finds: Zibra Holiday Shop – use code BANTER10 for 10% off Zibra Gift Cards In this episode, we discuss: The moments from 2025 that shifted our creative direction, from Rooted to unexpected collaborations What podcasting taught us about community, connection, and creative loneliness The difference between saying “yes” out of excitement vs. scarcity What we’re intentionally leaving behind before stepping into 2026 How our artistic styles, processes, and identities evolved this year Why structure, boundaries, and self-trust matter more than a perfect plan Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

What happens when you stop trying to be the “right” kind of artist and start becoming the truest version of yourself? This week, Annie and Brie sit down with Charlotte-based multidisciplinary artist and illustrator Kyle Mosher to talk about artistic evolution, trusting the long game, and the surprising places a creative path can take you. From studying fine art in Italy to designing sneakers at Puma to building a community-powered brand, Kyle shares the pivots, risks, and revelations that shaped his signature style, and the way preparing for fatherhood is shifting everything he thought he knew about success. Kyle Mosher is a full-time artist, illustrator, and founder of Paid For With Art. Known for his collage-inspired style that blends fine art, culture, and graphic design, Kyle has collaborated with brands like Porsche, HBO, Forbes, and Dunkin’. Through his work and creative community, he champions the value of artistry and the belief that every creator deserves to get paid for what they love. Connect with Kyle: IG Website Paid For With Art Resources mentioned: Zibra Holiday Shop – use code BANTER10 for 10% off In this episode, we discuss: How Kyle discovered his artistic voice by blending fine art, streetwear, and lived experience The real work of shifting from “I make art” to “I run a creative business” (and the mistakes that taught him everything) Why resilience, authenticity, and believing in your perspective matter more than perfection in a creative career Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

What happens when “making do” turns into making magic? This week, Annie and Lauren sit down with DIY designer and content creator Alyssa Vilardi of The Things We Built to talk about transforming everyday spaces (and everyday chaos) into something beautiful, functional, and full of heart. From painting nurseries in military housing to running a thriving content business, Alyssa shares how she built a brand rooted in authenticity, family, and the courage to take imperfect action. The trio dives into all things DIY, design, motherhood, and the art of creating joy right where you are, mess and all. Alyssa Vilardi is a DIY designer, content creator, mom of three, and military spouse behind The Things We Built. She’s known for her approachable projects, honest storytelling, and knack for turning rental spaces into reflections of real life and creativity. Through her work, Alyssa proves that creativity and authenticity can make any house feel like home. Connect with Alyssa: @the_things_we_built Facebook Website Creative Finds: 2” Palm Pro Artist Brush – use code BANTER10 for 10% off. The Disco Day Desert House Zibra’s Holiday Shop In this episode, we discuss: How a simple DIY project sparked a full-time creative business Letting go of perfection to make room for joy (and chicken tenders) The juggle between motherhood, mental health, and creative drive Designing spaces that feel like you – EVEN in a rental Why authenticity is the most sustainable business strategy Welcome to Brush & Banter —the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra ; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs ; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio . Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog