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Flying the Line

Published by Air Line Pilots Association, International

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Recount an exciting chapter in aviation history and the beginnings of the Air Line Pilots Association, the world’s largest pilot union and nongovernmental air safety organization, through an abridged retelling of the book by George E. Hopkins, ”Flying the Line.” Volume 1 narrated by Corey Kuhn. Volume 2 narrated by Gina Leahy.

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  1. Number 160AviationAustralia
  2. Number 168AviationCanada
  3. Number 46AviationUnited States

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  1. Episode 44 - Aftermath —The Disputed Election of 1990 and ALPA’s Future, Part 2 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Jul 3, 202417 min

    Hank Duffy’s Executive Administrator Randy Babbitt wins the ALPA presidency in a closely contested election against Roger Hall.

  2. Episode 43 - Aftermath —The Disputed Election of 1990 and ALPA’s Future, Part 1 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Jun 19, 202419 min

    Eastern’s Randy Babbit and United’s Roger Hall vie for the ALPA presidency.

  3. Episode 42 - The Eastern Strike and the Fall of Lorenzo, “How do you spell ‘Pyrrhic Victory,’ Frank?” Part 3 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Jun 5, 202417 min

    Frank Lorenzo’s failure at Eastern is so complete that he, for all intents and purposes, is finished in the airline industry.

  4. Episode 41 - The Eastern Strike and the Fall of Lorenzo, “How do you spell ‘Pyrrhic Victory,’ Frank?” Part 2 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    May 22, 202415 min

    With no hope of an SOS (suspension of service), the Eastern pilots attempt a “back door” Presidential Emergency Board, which George Bush vetoes.

  5. Episode 40 - The Eastern Strike and the Fall of Lorenzo, “How do you spell ‘Pyrrhic Victory,’ Frank?” Part 1 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    May 8, 202417 min

    In response to the Eastern pilot strike, Frank Lorenzo files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

  6. Episode 39 - Lorenzo's Last Gamble: The Origins of the Eastern Strike, Part 3 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Apr 24, 202416 min

    ALPA and Frank Lorenzo maneuver for the high ground at Eastern Airlines, and Lorenzo demonstrates that he has no intention of working cooperatively.

  7. Episode 38 - Lorenzo's Last Gamble: The Origins of the Eastern Strike, Part 2 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Apr 10, 202415 min

    As Frank Lorenzo gains control of Eastern Airlines, ALPA President Hank Duffy prepares to take on his greatest challenge.

  8. Episode 37 - Lorenzo's Last Gamble: The Origins of the Eastern Strike, Part 1 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Mar 27, 202415 min

    ALPA President Hank Duffy struggles to keep ALPA’s larger pilot groups from going independent amid the newly deregulated airline environment.

  9. Episode 36 - National Politics and Mergers: The Election of 1986 and Beyond, Part 3 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Mar 13, 202415 min

    Incumbent Hank Duffy and First Vice President Tom Ashwood angle for position in the 1986 ALPA presidential elections.

  10. Episode 35 - National Politics and Mergers: The Election of 1986 and Beyond, Part 2 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Feb 28, 202417 min

    With the 1986 ALPA presidential election neck and neck, candidate Tom Ashwood challenges the union’s use of its long-standing, contracted law firm.

  11. Episode 34 - National Politics and Mergers: The Election of 1986 and Beyond, Part 1 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Feb 14, 202417 min

    Following watershed strikes at Continental and United, mergers test ALPA’s strength and determination.

  12. Episode 33 - Of B-Scales and ALPA’s Future—The United Strike of 1985, Part 3 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Feb 1, 202412 min

    A 29-day strike tests the fortitude of the United pilots and ALPA as a whole.

  13. Episode 32 - Of B-Scales and ALPA’s Future—The United Strike of 1985, Part 2 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Jan 17, 202417 min

    During the United 29-day strike in 1985, the MEC miraculously convinces 570 new pilots in training not to cross the picket line.

  14. Episode 31 - Of B-Scales and ALPA’s Future—The United Strike of 1985, Part 1 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Jan 5, 202416 min

    The United pilots’ Blue Skies honeymoon is cut short with the introduction of a two-tiered wage scale.

  15. Episode 30 - Blue Skies and MEC Wars—The Origins of the United Strike of 1985, Part 2 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Dec 19, 202314 min

    A Ferg-Ferris alliance and the contentious “Blue Skies” agreement lead to concerns about the United pilots’ possible secession from ALPA.

  16. Episode 29 - Blue Skies and MEC Wars—The Origins of the United Strike of 1985, Part 1 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Dec 6, 202317 min

    An unlikely connection between United’s CEO and the pilots’ MEC chair leads to a controversial contract proposal.

  17. Episode 28 - The Continental Strike—ALPA’s Dark Night of the Soul, Part 3 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Nov 22, 202316 min

    ALPA raises safety concerns as Continental continues to fly during its protracted strike.

  18. Episode 27 - The Continental Strike—ALPA’s Dark Night of the Soul, Part 2 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Nov 10, 202319 min

    The Bildisco decision, although temporary in its precedence, seals the Continental pilots’ fate.

  19. Episode 26 - The Continental Strike—ALPA’s Dark Night of the Soul, Part 1 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Oct 25, 202316 min

    Continental’s striking pilots fight back as Frank Lorenzo looks for ways to keep his airline flying.

  20. Episode 25 - The Origins of the Continental Strike—Lorenzo Prepares His Blitzkrieg, Part 2 from Flying the Line, opens in a new tab

    Oct 11, 202317 min

    Frank Lorenzo uses the leverage of Chapter 11 to compel Continental pilots to make even more concessions.

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