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Get this free resource: The Front Door Report - an audit of 360+ ecommerce brands' welcome flows → https://www.joyjoya.com/frontdoor Someone at a pool party once asked me, dead serious, if people even look at email anymore. I get some version of this question a lot, so I wanted to actually answer it with real numbers instead of just my gut reaction. Turns out the assumption isn't even close to true. Somewhere around 93 to 99% of email users check their inbox every single day, there are more than 4.5 billion email users worldwide (more than any single social platform), and email marketing consistently returns somewhere between $36 and $42 for every dollar spent. For my own clients doing it well, email drives around 40% of their ecommerce revenue. I also dig into what I think is actually behind that pool party comment: the assumption that Gen Z has abandoned email for texting and social. The data doesn't back that up either - they're just doing it differently. And the part I think matters most: why email keeps winning even as everyone assumes it's dying. It comes down to two things - you own your email list outright, unlike a social following that can vanish with an algorithm change, and for the person receiving it, email is opt-in and still one of the few corners of the internet you actually control. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: The real numbers behind how often people check email, and how many people use it worldwide Why email marketing's ROI is hard to match with any other channel Whether Gen Z has actually abandoned email (spoiler: no) and how they use it differently The two real reasons email keeps outperforming assumptions - one about who owns the channel, one about the actual user experience Why an opt-in, algorithm-free inbox is genuinely rare online right now Get this free resource: The Front Door Report - an audit of 360+ ecommerce brands' welcome flows → https://www.joyjoya.com/frontdoor Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

Get the FREE "Front Door" Report: https://joyjoya.com/frontdoor Jodie Minto started her fashion brand at weekend market stalls with a glass fishbowl, handwritten slips of paper, and a monthly caftan giveaway. By the time she launched her website, she already had hundreds of email subscribers waiting. On day one, she made sales. She scaled that brand to $1 million a year in revenue over ten years, then sold it - and has spent the years since coaching hundreds of ecommerce founders across all different product categories. She's seen what works, what doesn't, and the nuances that make one tactic land brilliantly for one brand and completely miss for another. What I really wanted to dig into with her was the full picture: how lead gen actually works, how email and paid ads need to work together, what product pages are getting wrong, and something that genuinely surprised me - the cultural differences in how SMS and WhatsApp are used for marketing around the world. Her line that stuck with me most: the fortune is in the follow up. You can get someone to sign up, but if you never actually send them anything, none of the work getting them there mattered at all. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: How Jodie built her first email list with a fishbowl and handwritten slips - and why it worked The lead gen formats she tested over ten years: giveaways, spin the wheel, discount codes, and what actually converted best Why a travel voucher giveaway brought in all the wrong subscribers - and what that teaches you about list quality The most common email mistake she sees when auditing a new client's account How paid ads and email need to work together - and why relying on ads alone leaves money on the table The Klaviyo and Meta integration that lets you retarget your email subscribers with ads What product pages are almost always missing - and why it's quietly killing conversions The marketing mix she recommends for most ecommerce brands and why all three channels have to show up How SMS marketing is perceived very differently in Australia vs. the US - and what WhatsApp has to do with it The fortune is in the follow up. Getting someone to sign up is only half the job. Connect with Jodie: Website: https://jodieminto.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamjodieminto/ Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

Get the FREE "Front Door" Report: https://joyjoya.com/frontdoor I found a client's popup literally firing on top of another popup, one second apart, both on the screen at the same time. Nobody set it up that way intentionally. It's just what happens when you build one popup, then another, then another - and nobody ever goes back to check how they're all interacting. Exit intent is actually a genuinely useful tool when it's set up correctly. The idea is simple: instead of interrupting someone the moment they land on your site, you catch them at the very last moment - right before they leave without converting. A well-configured exit intent popup can recover somewhere between 10 and 20% of visitors who were about to leave anyway. But exit intent done wrong doesn't just fail to convert. It actively makes the experience worse. And the real danger isn't the exit intent popup itself - it's not knowing what you have running, when it fires, and how it's interacting with everything else on your site. In this episode I break down what exit intent actually is, what makes it work, and the popup stack problem that's more common than most brands realize. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: What exit intent is and how it works differently on desktop vs mobile Why exit intent popups actually tend to convert better on mobile than desktop The two ways to use exit intent - as your only popup or layered alongside your main one Why your exit intent offer needs to be different from your main popup offer What to ask for on an exit intent form - and what to save for later Why design, targeting, and copy all matter more than most brands think Which pages exit intent makes sense on - and where it's counterproductive The real danger of a popup stack nobody's audited in months How to properly inventory your popups and test the actual new user experience on your own site Exit intent is a good tool. But it's not a set-it-and-forget-it one - especially when you're layering it with other popups. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

Get the FREE "Front Door" Report: https://joyjoya.com/frontdoor Ever gotten a marketing text super early in the morning or way too late at night and thought - that's kind of rude? Turns out there are actually laws about that. And if you're texting your customers without knowing what quiet hours are, you could be violating regulations without realizing it. In the U.S., you're legally not allowed to send marketing texts before 8 a.m. or after 9 p.m. But it goes further than that. Some states are stricter - Florida cuts it off at 8 p.m. And if you text internationally, the rules get more complex. France blocks sending on Sundays and public holidays entirely, enforced at the carrier level, meaning the message just won't arrive. This isn't just about being a polite brand. Violations here aren't hypothetical. I've spoken to ecommerce founders - not my own clients, thankfully - who've received lawsuits over quiet hours violations. And in every single case, it wasn't intentional. It was a rogue automation, an edge case nobody caught, or a setting nobody thought to check. The good news is platforms like Klaviyo have built-in safeguards to help. The important thing is knowing what those safeguards actually do - and where they stop covering you. In this episode I walk through exactly what quiet hours are, which rules apply where, how Klaviyo handles this automatically, and why knowing your settings matters even when the platform is doing most of the work. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: What quiet hours actually are and why SMS is treated differently than email under the law The U.S. federal rule - and the states with stricter requirements you may not know about How international quiet hours work and why France is a particularly important example Why state-level frequency caps matter too - and which states limit you to three promotional texts per day How Klaviyo's built-in quiet hours settings work and why the defaults are more conservative than the law requires The new state-aware safeguards Klaviyo added and what they actually protect you from Why automatic safeguards aren't foolproof - and the scenarios where they can miss What SMS litigators are and why Klaviyo's setting to block them exists Why setting it and forgetting it is exactly how brands end up in trouble SMS can be one of the highest-performing channels you have. It just needs to be treated with the seriousness it deserves. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

Get the FREE "Front Door" Report: https://joyjoya.com/frontdoor Right now, roughly a third of your subscribers are opening your emails in dark mode. On some lists it's closer to 40%. And depending on how your emails were built, that could mean your logo is invisible, your text is unreadable, or your email just looks like something went terribly wrong. The worst part is you'd never know - because if you're testing in light mode on desktop, everything looks fine. It's only when you flip to dark mode that you see what a chunk of your audience is actually looking at every time you hit send. Dark mode isn't an edge case anymore. It was closer to a quarter of opens a year or two ago. Now it's a third and climbing. On Android, the vast majority of users have it turned on. And when someone opens a broken-looking email in dark mode, they're not going to sit there figuring out why it looks wrong - they're going to leave and delete. The good news is you can design around almost all of this. It just requires knowing what to look for, testing the right things, and making a few specific adjustments that make a real difference. In this episode I walk through exactly what dark mode does to your emails, which elements are most at risk, and how to test and fix the issues before they cost you opens and conversions. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: What dark mode actually is and why such a large portion of your subscribers are using it The three things an email client can do to your email in dark mode - and why you don't get to choose which one Why a logo on a transparent background can become completely invisible in dark mode How light gray text that looks subtle in your email builder can become totally unreadable on a dark background Which types of emails are most at risk - and why abandoned cart and dynamic content emails need special attention The design choices that hold up best across different email clients' dark mode logic Why Gmail has its own dark mode rules and needs to be tested separately every time What a proper dark mode testing process actually looks like - including transactional emails Why building a beautiful email that only works in light mode is designing for failure If you've never tested your emails in dark mode, there's a good chance you've been sending broken-looking emails to a huge chunk of your list - and just never knowing it. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

Cody Cessna almost didn't do email marketing at all. He told me straight up he didn't want to be the brand that annoys people and gets unsubscribed. And honestly, that instinct made our job harder - because we had to build in more restraint and intention than we might have with another brand. But he came around, and it's actually paying off. Cody is the founder of COE, a brand built for the active and working man who needs eyewear that can handle the job site without looking terrible doing it. He spent years as a lineman touching 16,000 volts every day, wearing safety glasses that were ugly and sunglasses that weren't actually rated for protection. So he built what didn't exist. No design background, no marketing background - he learned Shopify from YouTube videos. What I really wanted to dig into with him was the marketing side: how a founder-first approach to ads, real world lifestyle photography, and a very intentional email strategy have all worked together to build a brand that customers come back to - fast. COE's average repurchase timeline is around 55 days, which is well ahead of the ecommerce average. This one is worth listening to whether you're skeptical about email like Cody was, or just want to hear how a working-class founder with no marketing background figured it out. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: How Cody built COE from a real problem he lived every day on the job - and why that credibility still gives him an edge over bigger competitors Why he almost didn't do email marketing - and what changed his mind How he uses real world, on-the-job photography instead of polished studio shoots - and why it converts better The fake podcast ad strategy that's been one of their best performing formats Why founder storytelling has been COE's most consistent marketing asset from day one How a 55-day repurchase cycle shapes their entire email flow strategy The cross-sell and win back approach that keeps customers coming back for backup pairs, new colorways, and replacement lenses What seven years of building an ecommerce brand actually taught him that he wishes he'd known sooner When you love what you do, work doesn't feel like work. That's the energy of this whole conversation. Connect with COE: Website: https://coewear.com Instagram: @coeyewear Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

📥 Download the FREE Front Door Study: https://joyjoya.com/frontdoor I subscribed to 362 real ecommerce brands - jewelry, fashion, beauty, home, wellness, accessories - using fresh email addresses and phone numbers I'd never used before. I just wanted to know what actually happens after you hand over your contact information. Not what a Klaviyo dashboard says is happening. What actually shows up in the inbox. Nearly half of them never sent a welcome email at all. That means 158 brands took someone's email address, made them a promise - usually a discount or incentive - and then went completely silent. And SMS had the same problem, maybe worse. 53 brands never sent the text they promised either, and giving up a phone number is a bigger ask than an email. Going silent after that isn't just a missed conversion. It's probably the last time that person bothers engaging with you. The part that got me wasn't the deliverability issues or the mismatched offers or the spam folder problems - though all of those showed up too. It was that nobody in this study is losing because they lack a sophisticated segmentation strategy. They're losing because the very first message, the most important one they'll ever send, just isn't sending. Or isn't landing. Or isn't matching what they promised. And that's actually good news. Because this isn't complicated or expensive to fix. In this episode I walk through what I found across all 362 brands, why the welcome window is the most critical moment in your entire email program, and the one thing you can do today to find out exactly where you stand. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: Why nearly half of the 362 brands I subscribed to never sent a welcome email - and what that's actually costing them Why SMS silence after a signup is an even bigger offense than email silence The brands that didn't even have a real way to sign up - and what that signals to potential customers What happens when your welcome offer doesn't match what you promised on the popup Why deliverability problems are likely worse than most brands realize - and what I could see just from the consumer side Why the basics, not advanced strategy, are what's actually breaking most email programs The one simple thing you can do right now to find out exactly what your new subscribers are experiencing You genuinely can't fix this until you've experienced it as your own customer. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

Every SMS marketing platform is pushing something called RCS right now, telling you it's the future of texting your customers. And the upgrade is real - but the pitch is leaving out a few things worth knowing before you make any decisions. RCS, which stands for Rich Communication Services, isn't actually new technology. It was standardized back in 2007. The reason everyone is suddenly talking about it in 2026 is that Apple only added support for it in iOS 18, which came out in fall 2024. Once iPhone users were covered, rich messaging across both major platforms became possible for the first time - and that's what's driving all the noise. The difference between SMS and RCS is genuinely significant. Instead of a plain text from a string of random numbers, your customers see your actual brand name, logo, and a verified badge. Instead of compressed, blurry product images, they see high-res photos. Instead of a link, they get tappable buttons - Shop Now, Track Your Order - right inside the message thread. It's a real upgrade in how branded and trustworthy your texts look and feel. But there's an approval process, a waitlist with no guaranteed timeline, a country availability limitation, and a few things about how to measure performance that most platforms aren't mentioning. And none of it matters if your SMS foundation isn't solid first. In this episode I break down what RCS actually is, what it takes to get set up, what it genuinely does better than SMS, and my honest take on whether it's worth pursuing right now. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: Why RCS isn't new - and what actually changed to make everyone talk about it now What the difference between an SMS and an RCS message actually looks and feels like as a consumer What the approval process involves and why the timeline is unpredictable Why RCS has an automatic SMS fallback - and why that matters for your reach Which 10 countries RCS is currently available in Why RCS delivery reporting is actually more reliable than SMS - and what that means for your data The trust and anti-phishing benefits that come with being a verified RCS sender Why click rate isn't the right metric to compare RCS and SMS performance How to think about RCS as a layer on top of SMS - not a replacement for it This isn't hype you should ignore. But it's not an emergency switch either. Get your fundamentals right first - and then RCS can be a genuinely good next layer. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

390Julie Cole said something in our conversation that I haven't stopped thinking about. Social media, content, followers - all of it can disappear tomorrow. The only thing she actually owns is her email list. Julie is the co-founder of Mabel's Labels, the brand behind those indestructible labels you've seen on kids' water bottles and lunchboxes - the ones that survive the dishwasher, the microwave, and everything in between. She started the company 23 years ago in her sister's basement with three co-founders, none of them technical, trading a foosball table for their first website. It's since grown into a multi-million dollar brand selling worldwide. What I really wanted to dig into with her was how she thinks about email after two decades of building it. She segments by life stage - kids growing into teenagers, and now labels for aging parents. She guards her list fiercely, turning down requests to use it even when it costs her a speaking opportunity. And she treats it like the most valuable asset the company owns, because it is. This conversation is full of the kind of perspective you only get from someone who's actually been doing this for 23 years. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: How Mabel's Labels got its first big marketing break before social media even existed - and what it taught them about the power of the inbox Why Julie guards her email list so carefully she'll turn down opportunities to protect it How segmenting by life stage has kept customers coming back for over two decades The repeat customer flywheel that turns back-to-school buyers into lifelong label customers - and now, senior label customers too How Julie thinks about the relationship between social media and email - and why one will always take priority Why UGC and founder visibility have become core to how Mabel's Labels builds trust in an era where everyone's questioning what's real The culture of innovation Julie has built internally - and why giving teams room to experiment is good for the bottom line What 23 years in ecommerce actually teaches you about staying relevant when everything keeps changing The only thing you really own is your email list. Everything else can disappear tomorrow. Connect with Julie: Mabel's Labels: https://mabelslabels.com More on Julie: https://mabelslabels.com/juliecole Instagram: @juliecoleinc Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

Klaviyo has been rolling out something called Composer in beta - an AI agent that promises to build entire marketing campaigns from a single prompt. Audience, copy, design, segmentation, all of it. The promise is impressive. So I got access on a real client account and tested it myself. And my honest take is more nuanced than the hype - and more useful than the skeptics would have you believe. The short version: Composer is less an autonomous agent and more a really well-informed assistant. It knows your account data better than any outside AI tool could. It just still needs you. Where it genuinely surprised me was the data side - send time recommendations backed by actual account history, revenue per recipient, open rates by date, flagging which sends had enough volume to be statistically meaningful. That's marketing expert level analysis, and it's specific to your account in a way that ChatGPT or Claude simply can't replicate without a direct integration. Where it fell short was the creative side. The copy was functional but generic. The design pulled image slices from across the account that didn't really hang together. Getting it to feel on brand would have taken enough back and forth that I may as well have just written and designed it myself. In this episode I walk through exactly what happened when I tested it, what genuinely impressed me, where it still needs a human, and how to think about using it if you get access. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: What Klaviyo Composer actually is and what it promises to do What happened when I tested it on a real client account with a real campaign prompt Why the creative output is a starting point, not a finished product The limitation that affects accounts where most emails are designed in Figma or Canva The one thing Composer did that genuinely surprised me - and why it matters Why the send time analysis is where this tool actually earns its place What to watch out for with the auto-populated segmentation suggestions How to think about the human vs. AI division of labor in your email program right now Let it handle the data. You handle the creative direction and strategy. That framing is really useful for anyone thinking about where AI fits into their email marketing going forward. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

$6,000 in Klaviyo. $600 in Google Analytics. Same campaign. Same week. Real numbers from a real account my team took over. If you've ever stared at two reports that should say the same thing and thought - is someone lying to me? - this episode is for you. Nobody is lying. But what's actually happening is something every ecommerce brand sending marketing emails needs to understand. Those two tools aren't giving you different answers because one of them is wrong. They're giving you different answers because they're asking completely different questions. Klaviyo is asking how much did the people who engaged with this email go on to buy. Google Analytics is asking how much was purchased in the single visit that started from clicking the email. Same campaign, different questions, different numbers. Once you understand that, the gap stops being scary - and starts being expected. But there's more to it than just the attribution philosophy. There are specific settings inside Klaviyo that most brands have never looked at, and those settings have a massive impact on the revenue numbers you're seeing every month. If you've never checked your attribution window or thought about whether open-based attribution makes sense for your account, this episode is going to be eye-opening. In this episode, I walk through exactly why these numbers differ, what to check first when you see a shocking gap, and how to actually reconcile your data so you can make real decisions instead of nervous ones. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: Why Klaviyo and Google Analytics report completely different revenue for the same campaign - and why neither one is lying The first thing to check when you see a big discrepancy (it tells you immediately whether something is broken or not) How Google Analytics decides which channel gets credit for a sale - and why it's the most conservative number you'll see What Klaviyo's open-based attribution actually means and why it inflates revenue compared to other tools Why Apple Mail Privacy Protection may be affecting your open counts - and what to do about it The pros and cons of switching to click-only attribution in Klaviyo Why your Shopify store is the only real source of truth - and how to think about every other tool's numbers Why understanding this protects you in conversations with agencies, employees, and anyone else reporting on email performance When you can explain the gap, it stops being something that makes you feel like someone's pulling one over on you — and starts being something you can actually use. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

The moment someone signs up for your emails is the highest attention moment you will ever have with that subscriber. They just said yes. They're interested. They're engaged. And most brands are using that window to send two, maybe three emails - and then calling it done. That's a problem. Because the subscribers who buy from email one were already close to purchasing anyway. The discount and the timing just pushed them over the edge. The rest of your welcome series exists for everyone who wasn't ready yet - the people who need more trust, more context, more touchpoints - and that group is typically the majority. But length is just one piece of it. The deeper issue is what's actually inside those emails. A welcome flow that feels like it could have come from any brand in any industry isn't going to convert. Static product blocks that haven't been updated since the flow was built aren't giving new subscribers an accurate picture of who you are. And treating someone who already purchased the exact same way as someone who's never bought a thing is leaving revenue on the table every single day. You already paid to get these subscribers - through paid ads, organic content, collaborations, or years of showing up. The welcome flow is where that investment either pays off or gets wasted. In this episode, I walk through the specific places welcome flows leak revenue, what to do about each one, and why getting this right isn't starting from scratch - it's making sure the work you've already done actually converts. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: Why the welcome window is your highest attention moment - and how most brands squander it Why 4 emails is the minimum for a welcome flow and 5-7 is optimal What every email in the sequence needs to do - and why more discount reminders isn't the answer The most common welcome flow problem: emails that feel like they could come from any brand How personalization from your pop-up can meaningfully change how the welcome series performs Why dynamic content is one of the easiest wins in any welcome flow - and why most brands overlook it What happens when a welcome flow hasn't been touched since it was built and the brand has completely evolved The revenue leak that comes from treating first-time purchasers and non-purchasers exactly the same How to think about whether buyers should exit the flow or stay in with adjusted content The welcome flow is where your subscriber acquisition investment either pays off or gets wasted. Getting it right is worth the effort. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

Segmentation sounds like the answer to everything. The right message to the right person at the right time - that's the dream. And to be clear, I'm a segment stan. Smart segmentation is one of the most powerful things you can do for your email program. But the conversation around it is almost always one-directional: more segments, more targeting, more personalization. And at a certain point, that stops being true. I see brands build 12, 20, who even knows how many segments - and end up spending more time managing those segments than actually sending good campaigns. The result is a sophisticated-looking account generating less revenue than a simpler setup would. More segments doesn't automatically mean more revenue. Often it just means more complexity for the sake of complexity. There's also a math problem most brands don't see coming. When you fracture your engaged list into smaller segments, you're sending to fewer people - and the lift in open rates doesn't always make up for the drop in volume. Worse, when you send one campaign to five "different" segments, there's almost always massive overlap. You're not reaching new people. You're just hitting your most engaged subscribers more often. In this episode, I break down when segmentation starts working against you, the simple test for deciding which segments are actually worth keeping, and what a leaner, more sustainable segmentation strategy actually looks like. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: Why more segments doesn't automatically mean more revenue - and can actually mean less The real workload cost of maintaining too many segments The math problem most brands don't realize they have when they over-segment Why sending one campaign to five "different" segments often just means hitting the same people more often Why using a completely different segment for every send leaves you with no baseline to learn from The simple test for deciding whether a segment is actually worth keeping Why segments with only 10-20 people are usually adding noise, not value What a leaner segmentation strategy looks like: one engaged foundation plus a small number of intentional layers A leaner set of segments you actually use is worth far more than an elaborate setup that mostly just looks impressive. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

The call to action is the last thing someone reads before they click - or don't. And for something that important, it gets surprisingly little strategic thought in most email programs. What I see instead is one of two extremes. Either the CTA is completely ignored - "Shop Now" slapped on every button, same wording across every email, no thought given to whether it's actually doing its job. Or it's wildly overthought - someone spent 20 minutes trying to make the button sound clever and ended up with copy that nobody instantly understands. Both are a problem. And the fix is simpler than most brands expect, because simple almost always wins with CTAs. The brands that obsess over making their buttons sound unique are often the ones leaving clicks on the table every single day. The other thing worth talking about is structure - because a CTA doesn't live in isolation. It lives inside an email, often alongside other buttons and links, and how those compete or support each other changes everything about whether anyone clicks at all. In this episode, I walk through what actually makes a CTA work, the formula that produces clear and compelling button text almost every time, and how to think about CTA hierarchy so your emails stop pulling people in five directions at once. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: Why the CTA is the most overthought and under-strategized part of most email programs The simple verb + noun formula that produces strong CTAs almost every time Why "Shop Now" has survived decades of email marketing - and what that tells you about clarity The most common CTA mistake brands make and how it kills clicks before anyone even reads the button What happens when an email has five different CTAs - and why nobody clicks any of them Why every email needs one primary goal, and how to structure everything else around it How to repeat a CTA throughout an email without it feeling repetitive or overwhelming First person vs. second person CTAs - when it works and when it just feels like a conversion tactic Why a CTA that's hard to write is almost always a sign that the email itself needs more work first If your button text feels hard to write, stop trying to fix the button. Go back and clarify the email - and the CTA will almost write itself. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

Popups have a reputation. We've all landed on a site, barely had a second to look around, and been hit with a full-screen form asking for an email address before we even know what the brand sells. That's not a popup problem - that's a strategy problem. A well-timed, well-designed popup is one of the most effective list growth tools an ecommerce brand has. Avoiding them because you don't want to seem pushy doesn't make your site feel more premium - it just means fewer people are entering your email ecosystem every single day. But here's the question I want to ask if you already have one: when did you last actually look at it? Not glance at it - actually open it, put your email in, read through every step, and ask whether it's doing what you'd want it to do for a first-time visitor? For most brands, the honest answer is whenever I first set it up - which might have been a year ago, two years ago, or longer. The details in a popup matter a lot more than most brands realize. And there's one part of it that almost everyone overlooks entirely. In this episode, I walk through the three parts of a popup worth auditing: the trigger, the suppression settings, and the success step - including one counterintuitive recommendation about your discount code that might genuinely surprise you. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: Why popups get a bad reputation - and why avoiding them is costing you subscribers The difference between a time delay and scroll trigger, and how to decide which makes sense for your site The 80% rule for setting popup timing based on your actual session data Why where your traffic is coming from should influence when your popup fires Two suppression settings worth checking right now - and why showing a popup to existing subscribers is a bad look What the success step is and why it's the most underlooked part of any popup setup Why putting your discount code on the success step is actually working against you What that first open and first click really means for your deliverability - and how your popup can set that up right A popup that's been running untouched for two years isn't a set-it-and-forget-it win. It's just a decision nobody's revisited. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

Most brands have heard of domain warmup. When you're setting up a new Klaviyo account, you don't just blast your entire list on day one - you start small, build gradually, and let inbox providers get to know you as a sender. That part tends to make sense to people. What doesn't get talked about nearly enough is what comes after that. Warmup isn't a one-time thing you do at the beginning and then forget about. It's a tool you can come back to - and for a lot of brands, it's something their account needs right now and they don't even know it. If your open rates have been sliding for months, if your deliverability feels off, or if you've just done a major list clean, a proper warmup might be exactly how you course correct. Because the conditions in your account today are not the same as when you first set it up - and acting like nothing has changed is how deliverability problems get worse without anyone noticing. This episode is also the natural follow-up to last week's conversation about list health. Cleaning your list resets your audience. A warmup is how you rebuild your sender reputation on top of that cleaner foundation. One without the other is only half the fix. In this episode, I walk through how to know if your account needs a warmup, what the process actually looks like in practice, and the biggest mistake brands make when they try to do it themselves. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: Why domain warmup isn't just for new accounts - and when to come back to it The open rate number that signals something is genuinely wrong with your deliverability Why you should always check your authentication settings before starting a warmup What DKIM, SPF, and DMARC records are and why they matter for your sender reputation What a phased warmup actually looks like inside Klaviyo, step by step What to watch between each send and when to pause before moving forward The biggest mistake brands make when running a warmup (and why patience is the whole point) Why list health and domain warmup go hand in hand - and why doing one without the other isn't enough Warmup isn't a one-time credential you earn and keep forever. It's more like ongoing maintenance - and it's a lot easier to be proactive about than reactive about. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

A big email list feels like proof of something. Momentum. Years of work finally paying off. And that number sitting at the top of your Klaviyo dashboard can feel like a badge of honor - especially when you remember all the pop-up forms, giveaways, collaborations, and events that built it. But what if that number is giving you a completely false picture of how many people actually want to hear from you? I recently started working with a skincare brand that had built their list to 45,000 subscribers. On paper, that's genuinely impressive. When we got into the account, the real engaged audience was closer to 9,000. The rest was a combination of bots, role accounts, giveaway signups who never had any interest in buying skincare, and contacts that hadn't engaged in years - all sitting there, counted in that number, and costing the brand real money every single month. This isn't a rare situation. I see versions of it constantly across skincare brands, jewelry brands, apparel brands - really any brand that's been building a list for more than a couple of years without a regular maintenance practice. The number in the dashboard almost never matches the real audience. And the gap between those two things is usually a lot bigger and a lot more expensive than anyone realizes. In this episode, I break down what actually ends up polluting an email list over time, what it costs you in deliverability and Klaviyo pricing, and how to start thinking about whether your list needs a serious cleanup. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: Why a big email list can actually work against you - and what the number in your dashboard isn't telling you The types of contacts that silently pollute most lists over time (including some that aren't obvious) Why giveaway and collaboration traffic is so often the source of list bloat How a dirty list affects your sender reputation and hurts deliverability for everyone - including your best subscribers The real cost of a bloated list inside Klaviyo's pricing model (and how much brands are overpaying) Why this client went from 45,000 to 9,000 subscribers - and why their performance actually got better How to let go of the ego piece and reframe what a smaller, cleaner list actually means Three things to look at right now to figure out if this problem applies to you A smaller number you can actually market to is worth infinitely more than a big number that's costing you money and working against you. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

Klaviyo makes it easy to set up a win back flow. There's a default template ready to go, so most brands turn it on, move on, and assume it's working. And technically it is - it's running. But running and working are two very different things. When I go into a new client's account and look at their win back flow, what I almost always find is something that was set up once, never really thought through, and is running on default settings that nobody ever questioned. The timing is off. The re-entry settings are wrong. The emails are leading with a discount when they should be leading with something worth coming back for. A lot of that comes down to a fundamental confusion about what a win back flow is even supposed to do - and how it's different from a sunset flow. Because they're not the same thing, and if you're treating them like they are, you're bringing the wrong energy to the wrong audience. A win back flow isn't about rescuing the unrescuable. It's about reopening a conversation with someone who already knows you and just needs a reason to come back. That's a completely different job - and it requires a completely different approach. In this episode, I walk through the four things I look at when auditing a win back flow, the real brand examples that show what getting it right actually looks like, and a framework for making sure yours is doing the work it's supposed to do. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: The difference between a win back flow and a sunset flow - and why mixing them up costs you Why the first question to ask isn't about the emails at all - it's about who's entering the flow How to use your actual repurchase data to set win back timing (instead of guessing) Why firing your win back too late means you're showing up to a conversation that already ended The re-entry setting most brands never check - and why it matters more than you think Why leading with a discount is often the laziest and least effective way to bring someone back Real brand examples of win back flows that lead with relevance, voice, and something actually worth coming back for A five-part audit framework to run on your own win back flow The best win back flows don't feel like a win back flow. They feel like a well-timed, thoughtful message from a brand that noticed you'd been away - and actually has something worth showing you. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

This month marks 10 years since I officially started Joy Joya. And I've been sitting with that for a while, trying to figure out what I actually want to say about it. There's a version of this episode that writes itself - the highlight reel, the wins, the listicle wrapped up in a bow. I didn't want to do that. What I wanted to do was be honest, because that's more useful. So that's what this episode is. It's the real version - the messy pivot, the gradual realization, the external pressures that made staying put feel untenable, and the thing I kept coming back to through all of it: email. Not because email is glamorous - I'll be the first to admit it's not. But because it's built on something that doesn't go away. A direct relationship between a brand and a person who asked to hear from them. And after 15 years in marketing watching channels rise and fade, that staying power means everything. In this episode, I share what actually happened over the last 10 years, why I niched into email later than I should have, what made me finally go all in, and what I still believe about where email is headed. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: How Joy Joya started - and why it looked nothing like what it is today The client moment that changed how I saw email marketing entirely Why full-service marketing was frustrating in a way I couldn't ignore What email does that almost no other marketing channel can: show you exactly what you did and what it produced Why I went narrower in what we offer and broader in who we serve at the exact same time What 15 years in marketing taught me about which channels actually last Why email compounds in a way that's genuinely rare - and why that matters more the longer you're in business What I'm watching, what I'm curious about, and where I think email goes from here Here's to 10 years - and to whatever comes next. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com

Almost every brand sends last chance emails. End of a sale, final hours of a promotion, last day before something's gone. They're a completely normal part of any email calendar. And yet - we've all been on the receiving end of one that felt off. A little frantic. A little hollow. Like the brand was more stressed about hitting a number than genuinely trying to help you not miss something. The difference between a last chance email that works and one that doesn't usually isn't the format. It's not the countdown timer or the headline size. It goes deeper than that - into the credibility you've built before that email ever lands, the tone you write from, and whether your subscriber actually has enough time to do something about it. Because by the time someone opens your last chance email, they've already made a judgment call about whether they believe you. And that judgment was formed long before they read a single word. In this episode, I break down the four things that actually determine whether a last chance email earns its place in the inbox - and a gut check you can run before you send your next one. ✨ In this episode, you'll learn: Why last chance emails fail before they're even opened - and what builds believability over time How a promotional calendar that never really ends trains your subscribers not to respond The difference between urgency that feels confident and urgency that reads as panic Why writing from brand anxiety almost always shows up in the copy - and how to write from confidence instead The timing mistake that turns real urgency into a missed opportunity for most subscribers Why "ends tonight" is vague in a way that costs you - and what specificity actually does for trust How to shift from writing about what the brand needs to what the subscriber stands to miss A four-part gut check to run before you send any last chance email The best last chance emails don't feel like a brand sprinting to the finish line. They feel like a clear, confident reminder from someone who genuinely thinks you'd want to know. Work with Joy Joya: https://joyjoya.com