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The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore

Published by Shelley Moore

  • Education
  • Kids & family
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An update of The 5MM Podcast and expansion that includes Dr. Shelley Moore’s expanding Team. The Proud to Be an Outside Pin Podcast will highlight the voices of people on the edges and working to make classrooms, schools and communities more inclusive. What is an Outside Pin? In the game of bowling, the outside pins are the two pins in the outer corners of the formation. To us, being an outside pin means you bring a distinctive perspective and set of experiences that exist on the periphery of established norms. Your unconventional point of view can disrupt thinking in productive ways, inspiring folks to consider new possibilities. It’s about having the courage to stand out, while also maintaining a strong collaborative spirit

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  1. The Cost of Retrofitting: Building a foundation for accessibility from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Jun 4, 202546 min

    Inclusion for students with disabilities requires more than just presence in the classroom; it requires a thoughtful design of educational experiences that enhance learning outcomes for all students. This concept parallels the architectural process of constructing a building: both require intentional planning and design to ensure accessibility and functionality. In Dr. Shelley Moore’s Five Moore Minute video, “The Cost of Retrofitting” she highlights the difficulties of modifying existing systems to be inclusive. Retrofitting an educational environment is akin to adding elevators to a building after it has been built, often resulting in costly and insufficient solutions. Instead, we must design inclusivity into our educational frameworks from the outset. In this podcast episode, Shelley talks to Outside Pin, Emily Mostovoy-Luna, about using a building as a metaphor to think about the steps needed to construct inclusion, that is; community engagement, planning, design, materials, building and maintenance. To watch the video and access supplementary resources for this podcast episode, click here.

  2. Reassessing the Rubric: Shifting to strength based assessment practices from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Mar 24, 202557 min

    In the context of educational assessment, rubrics remain a prominent tool for measuring student performance and guiding instructional practices. In this month's Five Moore Minute video, Dr. Shelley Moore addresses issues with how rubrics are utilized, particularly after their evolution influenced by online resources, which have shifted their original intent. In this Podcast episode, Shelley talk to Outside Pin Laurie McIntosh, a Kindergarten teacher, who is using continuums to create accessibility and challenge for ALL her students. Show Notes for this episode To watch the 5MM episode and access supplemental resources connected to this episode including the episode script, supporting articles, and discussion questions, head to the Five Moore Minutes website : To access Dr. Shelley Moore's recommended resources bookshelf, check out her Five Moore Minutes affiliate store :

  3. Inclusion is Not Assimilation: Understanding the Importance of Identity in Educational Settings from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Feb 22, 202553 min

    The concept of inclusion has evolved significantly in education, moving beyond mere physical presence in classrooms to encompass a deeper understanding of belonging and recognition of identity. In this podcast episode, Dr. Shelley Moore talks with fellow Outside Pin Hina Mahmood about the recent Five Moore Minutes video where Shelley emphasizes that inclusion is not about forcing individuals to conform to a dominant group, but rather about fostering environments where diverse identities can coexist and thrive. This perspective aligns with research that underscores the importance of recognizing and valuing the multifaceted identities of students to promote their academic and social well-being (Civitillo et al., 2021; Preusche & Göbel, 2021; Verhoeven et al., 2018). To watch the 5MM episode and access supplemental resources connected to this episode including the episode script, supporting articles, and discussion questions, head to the Five Moore Minutes website: https://fivemooreminutes.com/inclusion-is-not-assimilation/?fbclid=IwY2xjawInLf5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHRlLEW8DMvUFgZL0JPdvLYZ4az0DkIpo_UV2PUQ_G6F9OULl_2VoysUrNA_aem_aMxAr_jsU0KK6eDBESLoVg To access Dr. Shelley Moore's recommended resources bookshelf, check out her Five Moore Minutes affiliate store: https://www.amazon.ca/shop/tweetsomemoore

  4. People are not Supports: Understanding the difference between people, supports, and strategies from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Jan 18, 202556 min

    What is Support? In many educational conversations, the term "support" has evolved into a multifaceted concept that is often misused and misunderstood. This is particularly evident in discussions surrounding the role of Educational Assistants (EAs) or paraprofessionals. While many educators, families, and students advocate for increased support through the hiring of EAs, it is essential to clarify that EAs themselves are not the support; rather, they can be supportive agents within the educational framework (Bennett et al., 2021; Gibson et al., 2015). This distinction is crucial for understanding how to effectively address the needs of students in inclusive education settings. To unpack this notion, January 2025's Five Moore Minutes episode targets four key terms: needs, supports, strategies, and resources. In this podcast episode, Shelley has a deeper conversation about the 5MM video with Dr. Leyton Schnellert, a member of her Outside Pin team. To watch the 5MM episode and access supplemental resources connected to this episode including the episode script, supporting articles and discussion questions, head to the Five Moore Minutes website: https://fivemooreminutes.com/people-are-not-supports/ To access Dr. Shelley Moore's recommended resources bookshelf, check out her Five Moore Minutes affiliate store: https://www.amazon.ca/shop/tweetsomemoore

  5. The Infrastructure of Inclusion: Participation with Peers from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Sep 20, 20211 hr 23 min

    In this third P of "The Five 'P's' of Inclusion" Series, this podcast looks at the critical role of PEERS to our understanding of inclusion. Connected to the video "Cheers for Peers," https://youtu.be/0uZRZXTrAhA This podcast episode interviews teacher and admin leaders who are making efforts to shift their schools to more inclusive settings for all students. To see the first two videos in the "The Five 'P's' of Inclusion" Series, check out these links: Presuming Competence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mq8sQTEhG8&t=11s Place: https://youtu.be/VZeWXeadqmw You can also find more content related to the big ideas in this video by tuning into the Five Moore Minutes Podcast, available on iTunes and all major podcasting platforms!

  6. The Infrastructure of Inclusion: The Role of Place with Jo Chrona and Friends from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Mar 20, 20211 hr 45 min

    This podcast is the second in a five part series, in partnership with the Association of Washington School Principals (AWSP) and is looking at five guiding principles of inclusive education (the 5 P's). This month's focus is on place and I am talking to Jo Chrona, a passionate advocate for inclusion and strength-based education. Jo is Ganhada of Waap K'oom of the Kitsumkalum First Nation, a Tsm'syen Community in British Columbia. I also talk with two collaborative teams who are making efforts to change their own contexts to make inclusion stronger. Rebecca and Sarah join us from Whidbey Island, and Ted, Steph, Rachel and Kelsey from Shelton - two communities in Washington State. This episode is connected to the Five Moore Minutes Video: "The Role of Place," and can be found here: https://youtu.be/VZeWXeadqmw This 5MM Podcast is made with support from AWSP and a grant from OSPI, which provided the Inclusionary Grant, allowing us to bring continued inclusionary practices professional learning to all educators.

  7. The Infrastructure of Inclusion: Presuming Competence with Mabel & Joanne from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Feb 16, 20211 hr 20 min

    Welcome back friends! This podcast is the first in a five part series, in partnership with the Association of Washington School Principals (AWSP) and is looking at five guiding principles of inclusive education (the 5 P's). This month's focus is on presuming competence and I am talking to two incredible individuals. Mabel Thackeray is a Licensed Psychotherapist and a National Certified School Counsellor in Forks, Washington. Mabel is part of a leadership team making efforts in their district to shift to more inclusive practices. We talk to her about what presuming competence means to her from a leadership perspective and what her schools are already doing to address diversity in their students, staff and families. My second guest is Joanne Picard, a self advocate and second year political science student at the University of Alberta. Joanne talks to us about her lived experience of inclusion, and challenges notions of presuming competence to include an individual's potential. This episode is connected to the Five Moore Minutes Video: "Presuming Competence," and can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mq8sQTEhG8 This 5MM Podcast is made with support from AWSP and a grant from OSPI, which provided the Inclusionary Grant, allowing us to bring continued inclusionary practices professional learning to all educators.

  8. Spring is Here: Getting the Garden's Ready (at home) - Tamara Taggart from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Apr 13, 20201 hr 1 min

    Spring is here, but it is a weird one. Who would have thought that learning conditions this Spring would look so different that the last! In this episode, I talk to Tamara Taggart, an incredible mom and champion for individuals with disabilities. Tamara and I chat about being stuck in our houses, how school and learning is changing and how to support students with disabilities at home. A conversation with Tamara and quick hello from her son Beckett, is exactly what I needed this week and I am so excited to share our chat with you! This podcast episode is connected to the April, 2020 Five Moore Minutes Video which can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l47QjZz1TLI

  9. Stuck in Social Isolation: What has Cousin Paul learned about Inclusion? from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Mar 31, 20201 hr 2 min

    Well, we are all socially isolating and looking for quarentainment! We had to reach into the vault for this one because I cant go out and interview anyone right now, but a good one nonetheless! In this episode, I interview Cousin Paul again to talk about his educational experience and what he has learned through the process of being the editor and producer of Five Moore Minutes content.

  10. Just let them eat CAKE: Bringing support to the students - Sarah & Lisa from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Mar 19, 202057 min

    This month our theme is support and it connects to the Five Moore Minutes video that can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WuygB4j55U&t=20s In this episode I talk to Sarah and Lisa, two support teachers in a middle school who are working hard to make inclusion possible for all of their students by bringing support TO the students, the teachers and the classroom. Hope you like it!

  11. All for One - A conversation with Cousin Paul about Shelley's upcoming book from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Mar 10, 20201 hr 2 min

    In this kick off 2020 episode, Shelley and Cousin Paul sit down to talk about Shelley's upcoming book One for All: Inclusive and Strength Based IEPs. To preorder Shelley's book in Canada, click here: https://amzn.to/2Q1MtJj To preorder Shelley's book in the US, click here: https://amzn.to/38BGXmU

  12. What are you a Genius at? Danielle & Conor from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Nov 22, 201959 min

    In this episode we are talking to Danielle and her son Conor about strengths and how importance they are! Building on the Five Moore Minutes Episode: What's your genius?! released earlier this month! We talk about parenting and pizza and support and Down Syndrome and life and everything! Have a listen and get to know two incredible people who have taught me a lot and make a difference in this world. To watch this month's Five Moore Minutes video, click the link below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnWCfapCcVI&t=2s For more information about Five Moore Minutes head over to the website: www.fivemooreminutes.com

  13. Dr. Baked Potato - Sarah from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Oct 31, 201956 min

    Here is our second episode for this month about the Planning Pyramid (A.K.A The Baked Potato Planning Strategy). In this episode I am talking to Sarah, a classroom teacher and district helping teacher who uses the strategy everyday in her classroom! Sarah walks us through some examples of how she uses the strategy for her lesson design and refers to some visuals. It may be helpful to see these before, during or after you listen. You can find these visuals on Instagram (@Five Moore Minutes). We will also be zooming in on this strategy for a live webinar on Sunday November 3, 2019, which will be recorded and avaliable on the Five Moore Minutes You Tube Channel! This Podcast Episode is connected to the Five Moore Minutes YouTube video: Dr. Baked Potato: How can we scaffold complexity? Which can be found at the link below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j0oL1CNXAs&t=29s For more resources make sure to also check out www.fivemooreminutes.com to find more videos, interviews and strategies to support inclusion!

  14. Dr. Baked Potato - Ed Pimley from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Oct 14, 201943 min

    In this episode we talk about the baked potato metaphor's connection to physical activity and how the planning pyramid is necessary is many areas of our life! Join my personal trainer, Ed, and me banter to solve the worlds problems including tattoos, grommets and the BC Lions. This Podcast Episode is connected to the Five Moore Minutes YouTube video: Dr. Baked Potato: How can we scaffold complexity? Which can be found at the link below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j0oL1CNXAs&t=29s For more resources make sure to also check out www.fivemooreminutes.com to find more videos, interviews and strategies to support inclusion!

  15. Welcome to Season 2 of The Five Moore Minutes Podcast! from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Sep 3, 201927 min

    Happy September friends! In this episode I sit down with Paul Madsen, the producer of all the Five Moore Minutes videos and podcasts AND my cousin! Learn a little more about Paul and hear what is coming this season!

  16. Inclusion as United - Megan from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Jun 20, 201929 min

    So excited for you to hear and get to know more about Megan! Megan is the incredible 12 year old who was the inspiration behind the last Five Moore Minutes Video: Inclusion as United!Megan give us some great advice and insight into what inclusion means to her and her community. This episode connects to the Five Moore Minutes Video, "Inclusion as United" which you can find on the Five Moore Minutes YouTube channel at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jSi8m540wU

  17. The Infrastructure of Inclusion - Suzanne, Janice & Judith from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    May 27, 201943 min

    We are back!! This episode continues are conversation around the infrastructure of inclusion! We asked the question, What do you need to make inclusion happen? We talked to Suzanne, a parent of a 6 year old named Sebastian with complex needs. Janice a middle school and district support teacher and Judith King, a veteran inclusionista from the same district! The three of them together paint a lovely picture of the supports that are needed for kids, families, teachers and the community. This episode connects to the Five Moore Minutes Video, "Compost Kate Saves the Earth!" which you can find on the Five Moore Minutes YouTube channel at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8iAQTneyXI

  18. The End of Average - Todd Rose from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Mar 1, 201940 min

    In this Five Moore Minutes Podcast episode, we are talking to the one and only Todd Rose, author of "The End of Average" and "Dark Horse. In this episode, Todd shares his story and gives us some tips about how to find the abilities and passions in kids, so that everyone can find success!

  19. The Infrastructure of Inclusion: Kate Campbell (Compost Kate) from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Feb 12, 201948 min

    In this Five Moore Minutes Podcast episode, we are talking to Kate Campbell, otherwise known as THE Compost Kate!!! The theme this month is infrastructure, and Kate will share with us her experience of the structures needed to support the students who are often the most excluded, not just from classrooms, but from schools. Kate works with students who have the most complex needs, and facilitates inclusion over time by working with schools, teachers and support staff to welcome these kids into their communities. This episode is connected to the video "Compost Kate saves the Earth: The infrastructure of inclusion" on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8iAQTneyXI

  20. Inclusion 2.0: Alexander Magnussen from The Five Moore Minutes Podcast with Dr. Shelley Moore, opens in a new tab

    Jan 28, 201954 min

    In this Five Moore Minutes Podcast episode, we are talking to Alexander Magnussen, an incredible self advocate and speaker living with Autism, and sharing his stories around the country. Alexander has a gift of storytelling and encourages everyone to embrace their inner weird and strange self! This episode is connected to the video Inclusion 2.0 and connected content including the podcast episode: Conversation with Faye Brownlie, and the YouTube video strategy, The Class Profile.

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