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If you're wondering whether things really do get better after divorce, this episode is proof that they can - one step at a time. Kate is joined by Michelle Lynne , a Canadian concert pianist and singer, who shares how she found her way back to herself after a painful divorce, and turned that journey into her debut album. In this episode, we cover: How Michelle found her way back to herself after divorce How a creative outlet can help you sit with grief instead of rushing past it Why it's ok to tell people what you actually need from them What it took to turn Michelle’s experience into her debut album, One Step at a Time This episode is for anyone who feels lost after a relationship ending and looking for a creative way to process a difficult season. Trigger warning: this episode touches on poor mental health, including thoughts of suicide, alongside grief and divorce-related trauma. If any of this feels close to home, please take care while listening - support is available from Mind , Samaritans , or your GP . Meet Michelle Lynne Canadian pianist, singer and speaker Michelle Lynne is known for her dynamic, communicative performances and her ability to forge warm, personal connections with audiences. Appearing frequently as a chamber musician, collaborative pianist, and educator, she is currently on tour in Europe and has performed for over 250,000 people, most recently in the Eiffel Tower. Her debut album One Step at a Time released Nov 2025, and was born out of her own journey through a painful divorce. You can find out more about Michelle on her website and make sure to follow her on Instagram and you can listen to her debut album One Step at a Time on Spotify . More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Want ongoing support as you rebuild after separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on healing after divorce and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on emotional readiness and timing, navigating separation with kindness and rebuilding your identity and moving forward with confidence. Find it on Amazon today. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #LifeAfter

If you're navigating work travel while co-parenting, this episode will help you plan around it without the guilt, or the arguments. In this episode, Kate Daly shares practical advice on how to plan childcare, communicate with your co-parent, and build a support network so work travel doesn't disrupt your co-parenting relationship or your children's routines. In this episode, we cover: Why work travel feels different once you're co-parenting How to agree a parenting plan for travel Why your co-parent isn't your default childcare, and what to do instead Keeping your co-parent in the loop and staying connected with your kids while you're away This episode is for co-parents whose work involves travel, or anyone working out childcare arrangements beyond the usual routine. More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Or explore our Separating with Children Service – a 90-minute joint session with a Co-parenting Specialist tailored to your family’s needs. Want ongoing support through separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on co-parenting and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on co-parenting, with practical guidance on supporting your children's wellbeing, talking to them in age-appropriate ways and building a cooperative co-parenting relationship that reduces conflict. Find it on Amazon today. Want to stay organised as co-parents? Download our free Parenting Plan template to help you and your co-parent agree on shared goals, routines and decision-making – with your children at the centre. Try the amicable co-parenting app free for 3 months to share calendars, track expenses and communicate clearly. Open this link on your phone, install the app, create your account, select 'I have a promo code', enter PODCAST and press ‘apply’. #Coparenting

What do you show your children when you decide your marriage has to end? Kate is joined by Buzzy Randall , a hospitality consultant, to talk about how she chose to model strength, honesty and self-worth for her daughters throughout her divorce. We talk about: Why being a role model to your children throughout your relationship and separation matters Showing up honestly for your kids, including the moments you don't have it all together The shame and stigma that can surround divorce, especially when infidelity's involved Why having someone else who's been through something similar can make all the difference Rebuilding your self-identity, confidence and ability to make decisions for yourself ⚠️ Trigger warning: this episode touches on infidelity and the emotional impact of divorce and separation. This episode is for anyone thinking about what their separation is teaching their children. You're not alone in this – if this episode resonated, share it with someone who might need it right now. Meet Buzzy Randall Buzzy is a hospitality consultant, entrepreneur, classically trained chef, and currently a Masters Psychology student at the University of Leicester. With more than twenty years' experience in hospitality, including senior creative and operational roles within luxury hotels and events, she has built a career around creating meaningful experiences and supporting people to thrive. Following her own experience of divorce after an eighteen-year marriage, Buzzy became passionate about conversations around separation, resilience, identity and rebuilding life after significant change. Through her writing, podcasting and studies in psychology and counselling, she explores how people navigate loss, rediscover themselves, and create fulfilling new chapters. To hear more from Buzzy follow her on Instagram and listen to her podcast The Big D . More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Or explore our Separating with Children Service – a 90-minute joint session with a Co-parenting Specialist tailored to your family’s needs. Want ongoing support as you rebuild after separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on co-parenting and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on co-parenting, with practical guidance on supporting your children's wellbeing, talking to them in age-appropriate ways and building a cooperative co-parenting relationship that reduces conflict. Find it on Amazon today. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at press@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #SeparationStories

If you've seen the headlines about 'divorce rings' and wondered whether they're a passing trend or something more meaningful, this episode is for you. In this in-brief episode, Kate unpacks what's really behind the rise of divorce rings – and why they're about a lot more than jewellery. In this episode, we cover: What a divorce ring actually is How reclaiming choice and identity plays into the trend The difference between behaving amicably and feeling amicable, and why that gap is completely normal Kate's own way of marking the end of her marriage This episode is for anyone going through separation or divorce who's looking for their own way to mark this chapter, and for anyone curious about why this trend is getting so much attention. More divorce resources Feeling ready to take practical steps forward? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Want ongoing support as you rebuild after separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on emotional wellbeing and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on emotional readiness and timing, navigating separation with kindness and rebuilding your identity and moving forward with confidence. Find it on Amazon today. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at press@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #LifeAfterDivorce

What happens when you finally stop ignoring your gut - and discover that everything you went through was leading you somewhere better? In this episode, I'm joined by multi-award-winning comedy impressionist J ess Robinson to hear her honest and uplifting story of separation, starting over and finding unexpected happiness as a stepmum. In this episode, Jess talks about: What the end of her marriage looked like, and how she processed it The shame she felt around her separation, and how she moved through it Dating again, and how she met her husband Building a blended family, and what the stepmum role really means to her Why going through hard times can lead you exactly where you're meant to be This episode is for anyone who's been through a separation and is wondering what comes next - especially if you're navigating new relationships or a blended family. ⚠️ This episode contains some adult themes - take care while listening If this episode resonated with you, follow The Divorce Podcast for honest, expert support whenever you need it. Meet Jess Robinson Jess Robinson is a multi-award-winning comedy impressionist and classically trained singer recognised as the UK's pre-eminent female impressionist. A household name in comedy and impressions since her viral Britain's Got Talent semi-final in 2017, she has since starred as lead voice artist on Spitting Image, appeared regularly on Channel 4's The Last Leg and BBC's Dead Ringers, and performed to sell-out crowds at iconic venues including the London Palladium and the Royal Albert Hall. She is also an experienced voice artist, lending her talents to Aardman, DreamWorks, Netflix and Disney, and hosted the British Podcast Award-winning show Stars In Your Ears. You can learn more about Jess on her website , and follow her on Instagram and Facebook to stay up to date. You can also catch her show, 'Elton Reimagined' , in Edinburgh this August - book your tickets today . More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Want ongoing support as you rebuild after separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on emotional wellbeing and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on emotional readiness and timing, navigating separation with kindness and rebuilding your identity and moving forward with confidence. Find it on Amazon today. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #SeparationStories

Cutting out the solicitor and letting AI draft your consent order sounds like a money-saver. But this is the legally binding document that settles your finances for good - and getting it wrong could cost you far more than you'd save. Kate is joined by two members of the amicable team - Divorce Specialist Lucy Huscroft and Head of Product Hugo Ostyn - to unpick where AI genuinely helps with a consent order, and where you need an expert’s help. We talk about: What a consent order is and why it matters for a clean break in divorce How AI can help with your consent order – and where it's best used Why a person still beats AI when it comes to consent orders – and main limitations to watch out for This episode is for anyone tempted to use AI to sort out their divorce finances, and who wants to understand where it helps and where it could go wrong. Mentioned in this episode R (Ayinde) v London Borough of Haringey [2025] EWHC 1383 (Admin) — a UK High Court case where AI-generated, fictitious case law was put before the court, leading to wasted costs orders Mata v Avianca, Inc. (2023) — the US case where lawyers submitted AI-hallucinated case citations Research by Fanous et al. (2025) finding that leading AI models changed their answers close to 60% of the time when challenged King's College London research on people turning to AI for help: around one in seven have used AI instead of seeing a GP, and one in five who use it for health advice say it discouraged them from seeking professional care About our guests Hugo is the Head of Product at amicable . With over 10 years of experience, he has helped both startups and established companies build and launch new products. He brings a user-first mindset and a data-driven approach to help make divorce kinder and more transparent. Lucy qualified as a Chartered Legal Executive specialising in family law and practiced in law for several years before joining amicable . Lucy uses this experience to ensure customers get the best possible result for their own unique circumstances and that of their families. Lucy's experience in family as well as conveyancing means she is super practical in helping people consider the implementation of their agreements. More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Want ongoing support through separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on the legal side of divorce and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes a dedicated chapter on demystifying the legal process – from no-fault divorce to consent orders, translated into plain English so you can make informed decisions with confidence. Find it on Amazon today. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #Legal

This week, we want to revisit a particularly helpful episode with Jo Thurston from Parent Talk to discuss why summer holidays can be so tricky for single parents and share some simple tips for making them more manageable and fun. Without the school routine and longer days in the sun, it’s an important time to create new memories and enjoy new activities with your children. However, summer as a single parent can be challenging when you’re doing all of this solo. It might involve more schedules, additional childcare and juggling high expectations. Kate and Jo start by explaining why summer holidays can be challenging for single parents, and when’s a good time to start planning them. There are also some tips on how not to over-plan! Here are some of the points they cover in this episode to help single parents this summer: How to navigate holiday costs Where you can look for affordable activities to fit your budget and available time Communication tips with your co-parent Staying flexible and willing to adjust your schedule Why involving your children in holiday planning could be a good idea Meet Jo Thurston Jo is a co-ordinator at Action for Children’s Parent Talk service , which offers free online advice for parents and carers of children aged 0-19, or up to 25 where a young person has special educational needs. Its confidential 1:1 live chat service connects parents and carers directly to an experienced parenting coach for judgement-free practical advice and emotional support, while its online articles answer some of the most common parenting questions. Jo first joined Action for Children in 2018 as a Family Support worker in a Children’s Centre. She has a background working in schools and pastoral care and has a particular interest in supporting families impacted by SEND. More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Or explore our Separating with Children Service – a 90-minute joint session with a Co-parenting Specialist tailored to your family’s needs. Want ongoing support through separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on co-parenting and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on co-parenting, with practical guidance on supporting your children's wellbeing, talking to them in age-appropriate ways and building a cooperative co-parenting relationship that reduces conflict. Find it on Amazon today. Want to stay organised as co-parents? Download our free Parenting Plan template to help you and your co-parent agree on shared goals, routines and decision-making – with your children at the centre. Try the amicable co-parenting app free for 3 months to share calendars, track expenses and communicate clearly. Open this link on your phone, install the app, create your account, select 'I have a promo code', enter PODCAST and press ‘apply’. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #Coparenting

Children were once seen as their father's property. So how did we get from there to a family court system that tries – however imperfectly – to put their welfare first? Kate is joined by Lara Feigel , author and professor at King's College London, to draw a comprehensive timeline of the family courts, from a time when children were seen as their father's property right through to today. We talk about: How the family court developed in England and Wales over the centuries – from a system that treated children as property to one that tries to hear their voice How that compares internationally – and why we so often followed rather than led When the voice of the child started to matter, and how it's heard today Why the family court should be the last reort for separating couples This episode is for anyone curious about how the family courts came to be, and why – where it's safe to – staying out of court is so often the kinder, calmer path. A note before you listen: this episode touches on the death of a child and domestic abuse. Please take care while listening. If you need support, these organisations can help: Women's Aid – womensaid.org.uk Refuge – refuge.org.uk ManKind Initiative – mankind.org.uk Men's Advice Line – mensadviceline.org.uk Mind – mind.org.uk Samaritans – dial 116 123 or text SHOUT to 85258 If your life is in danger, dial 999 A note on the word 'custody' You'll hear the word 'custody' used throughout this episode – both in the historical context Lara explores and in the title of her book. It's also a term many people still use in everyday conversation when talking about their children after separation. But in England and Wales today, 'custody' isn't actually a legal term. It was replaced under the Children Act 1989, which shifted the focus away from one parent 'winning' and the other 'losing', and towards something more constructive: child arrangements. The language courts use now is 'lives with' and 'spends time with' – because the goal is for children to have meaningful, loving relationships with both parents wherever it's safe to do so. At amicable, we use 'child arrangements' rather than 'custody' for exactly this reason. The words we use shape how we think – and 'arrangements' puts children's needs at the centre, rather than parents' rights. About Lara Feigel Lara Feigel is the author of Custody: The Secret History of Mothers – one of the Economist’s best books of 2026. This is a history of child arrangements from 1800 told through the stories of several families. She is a professor at King’s College London and the author of five other books on cultural history and a novel. You can find Lara’s book Custody: The Secret History of Mothers on Amazon and you can read more of her writing on the Right to Equality website . More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Or explore our Separating with Children Service – a 90-minute joint session with a Co-parenting Specialist tailored to your family’s needs. Want ongoing support through separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on co-parenting and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on co-parenting, with practical guidance on supporting your children's wellbeing, talking to them in age-appropriate ways and building a cooperative co-parenting relationship that reduces conflict. Find it on Amazon today. Want to stay organised as co-parents? Download our free Parenting Plan template to help you and your co-parent agree on shared goals, routines and decision-making – with your children at the centre. Try the amicable co-parenting app free for 3 months to share calendars, track expenses and communicate clearly. Open this link on your phone, install the app, create your account, select 'I have a promo code', enter PODCAST and press ‘apply’. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #Legal

What happens when you find love again after losing your partner - and that second love story ends too? Bereavement and divorce are widely cited as the two most stressful life events a person can go through – and Rosie Moss has lived both. Widowed suddenly in her thirties with three young children, Rosie found love again – and then walked through the breakdown of that second marriage. She joins Kate not to talk about how hard it's been, but about what's grown out of it. Rosie is host of the award-winning podcast Widowed AF and author of the bestselling book Widowed As F**k . Together, Kate and Rosie explore love, loss, dating again and learning to like yourself through it all. We talk about: Meeting someone through shared grief - and what happens when a relationship is fast-tracked by loss Helping children make sense of a step-parent leaving their lives Dating again as both a widow and a divorcee Protecting your peace and discovering the strength you didn't know you had This episode is for anyone navigating loss and separation, dating again after divorce or bereavement, or simply trying to make sense of what comes next when life takes a turn you didn't plan for. Trigger warning: This episode discusses bereavement, mental health and alcohol use. If you're affected by anything discussed, you can call Samaritans free on 116 123, or text SHOUT to 85258. Meet Rosie Moss Rosie Moss is the host of the award-winning podcast Widowed AF and author of the bestselling book Widowed As F**k . Widowed suddenly in her thirties with three young children, she found love again - and now speaks openly about what happens when that second relationship doesn't work out, and how hard it is to protect children while everything is shifting around them. Her work focuses on the overlap between grief, separation and long-term stress, and how these experiences shape decision-making, resilience and recovery - particularly for women balancing it all. Through her podcast and writing, Rosie has built a global community by challenging the clichés around grief and divorce, and focusing on what life actually looks like when you're in the middle of it. Follow Rosie on Instagram to learn more about her journey. More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Want ongoing support through separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on co-parenting and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on emotional readiness and timing, navigating separation with kindness and rebuilding your identity and moving forward with confidence. Find it on Amazon today. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #SeparationStory

Family court is the part of divorce most people hope to avoid – and for good reason. But if it becomes part of your journey, knowing what to expect can change everything. Kate is joined by Beth Kirkland from AdviceNow to talk about what happens when court becomes unavoidable, what it actually feels like to walk into one and how to give yourself the best chance if you're representing yourself. We talk about: How AdviceNow can help if you're going through a divorce or separation The reasons couples end up in family court – and why it should be a last resort What court actually feels like and what the common myths and misconceptions are Beth's practical advice to anyone facing court without legal representation This episode is for anyone navigating divorce or separation in England and Wales who wants to understand the family court process – whether court feels close, or you simply want to know your options before things escalate. A note before you listen: this episode includes references to domestic abuse and coercive control. If you're affected by anything we discuss, you'll find support organisations listed at the bottom of this description. Support organisations: Women's Aid – womensaid.org.uk Refuge – refuge.org.uk ManKind Initiative – mankind.org.uk Men's Advice Line – mensadviceline.org.uk Mind – mind.org.uk Samaritans – dial 116 123 or text SHOUT to 85258 If your life is in danger, dial 999 The statistic Beth references comes from the Everyday Business report, published by the Domestic Abuse Commissioner in October 2025, which found evidence of domestic abuse in 73% of observed family court cases and 87% of case files involving children. Read the full report here . About AdviceNow AdviceNow is a UK-based not-for-profit organisation and charity that increases access to justice by helping people to deal with life's legal problems. They provide legal support, including information, legal self-help tools, and training to help people use the law. You can access free resources for divorce and separation that Beth mentions in the episode on AdviceNow website , and you can watch a video about the experience of family court with some helpful tips here . More divorce resources Ready to understand your options? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Want ongoing support through separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on the legal side of divorce and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes a clear breakdown of the different ways to separate, from solicitor-led routes to mediation to cooperative services like amicable, so you can choose what fits your situation. Find it on Amazon today. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #Legal

Supporting your children through separation goes so much further than one difficult conversation - but knowing how to keep showing up for them is something many parents struggle with. Kate is joined by Hannah Strong , therapist, separated mum and founder of My Thriving Child, to explore what children really need from their parents during and after a separation. Drawing on science, psychology and her own lived experience, Hannah shares her framework for helping children not just cope - but thrive. We talk about: Why it's not about getting it perfect – and the reassuring research behind that What's really going on in your child's brain when family life changes How to spot the signs your child might be struggling, even when they seem fine Why the first conversation about your separation is just the beginning The small everyday actions that help your children build security and thrive This episode is for any parent going through separation who wants to do right by their children - whether they're at the very start of the process or years down the line. Meet Hannah Strong Hannah Strong is a therapist, coach and separated mum who specialises in helping parents to support their children in the best way possible through divorce - so their children do not just survive, but genuinely thrive. You can learn more about how Hannah can help your family on the My Thriving Child website and you can follow her on Instagram for more helpful tips. More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Or explore our Separating with Children Service – a 90-minute joint session with a Co-parenting Specialist tailored to your family’s needs. Want ongoing support through separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on co-parenting and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on co-parenting, with practical guidance on supporting your children's wellbeing, talking to them in age-appropriate ways and building a cooperative co-parenting relationship that reduces conflict. Find it on Amazon today. Want to stay organised as co-parents? Download our free Parenting Plan template to help you and your co-parent agree on shared goals, routines and decision-making – with your children at the centre. Try the amicable co-parenting app free for 3 months to share calendars, track expenses and communicate clearly. Open this link on your phone, install the app, create your account, select 'I have a promo code', enter PODCAST and press ‘apply’. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . Sources referenced in this episode Tronick, E. Z., & Gianino, A. F. (1986). The Transmission of Maternal Disturbance to the Infant. In E. Z. Tronick & T. Field (Eds.), Maternal Depression and Infant Disturbance (New Directions for Child Development, No. 34, pp. 5-11). Jossey-Bass. Amato, P. R., Loomis, L. S., & Booth, A. (1995). Parental Divorce, Marital Conflict, and Offspring Well-Being During Early Adulthood. Social Forces, 73(3), 895-915. Kelly, J. B., & Emery, R. E. (2003). Children's Adjustment Following Divorce: Risk and Resilience Perspectives. Family Relations, 52(4), 352-362. Masten, A. S. (2001). Ordinary Magic: Resilience Processes in Development. American Psychologist, 56(3), 227–238. Luthar, S. S., Cicchetti, D., & Becker, B. (2000). The Construct of Resilience: A Critical Evaluation and Guidelines for Future Work. Child Development, 71(3), 543–562. Rutter, M. (2012). Resilience as a Dynamic Concept. Development and Psychopathology, 24(2), 335–344. Masten, A. S., & Reed, M.-G. J. (2002). Resilience in Development. In C. R. Snyder & S. J. Lopez (Eds.), Handbook of Positive Psychology (pp. 74–88). Oxford University Press. Werner, E. E., & Smith, R. S. (1992). Overcoming the Odds: High Risk Children from Birth to Adulthood. Cornell University Press. Bowlby, J. (1969/1982). Attachment and Loss. Vol. 1: Attachment. Ainsworth, M. D. S., Blehar, M. C., Waters, E., & Wall, S. (1978). Patterns of Attachment. Sroufe, L. A., Egeland, B., Carlson, E., & Collins, W. A. (2005). The Development of the Person: The Minnesota Study of Risk and Adaptation from Birth to Adulthood. van IJzendoorn, M. H., & Sagi-Schwartz, A. (2008). Cross-Cultural Patterns of Attachment: Universal and Contextual Dimensions. In Handbook of Attachment (2nd ed.). #Coparenting

200 episodes of honest, hopeful conversations about divorce – here are the moments that stayed with us. To mark our 200th episode, we're looking back at some of the conversations that have meant the most – to us and to you. From day one, The Divorce Podcast has been part of amicable's mission to change the way people separate, making divorce kinder, fairer and a little less lonely. This special episode brings together the honest, funny and moving moments that capture exactly why we do it. In this episode, you'll hear from: Ella Kenion – on co-parenting, and why the thought of an ex meeting someone new can still sting Emma Campbell – on the emotional weight of single parenting Emma Reed Turrell – on the difference between kindness and people pleasing Hal Cruttenden – on how hard many men find it to open up Jonathan Fitter-Harding – on the day-to-day reality of 'nesting' and co-parenting with kindness Ebele Okobi – on grief, growth and an unexpected reconciliation This episode is for anyone navigating separation who could use a reminder that they're not alone – and a lovely place to start if you're new to the podcast. So many of you have told us how much the podcast has helped over the years, and that means everything. If someone you know might need it too, please share this episode with them. Trigger warning: This episode touches on themes that some people might find distressing, including serious illness, bereavement and times of low mood. If you're affected by anything discussed, you can call Samaritans free on 116 123, or text SHOUT to 85258. Meet our guests Ella Kenion is an actress with a long and varied career across stage and screen, with highlights including 'The Outlaws', 'The Detectorists' and 'Midsomer Murders'. Emma Campbell is an author, speaker and podcast host, known to her Instagram followers as Limitless Em . Emma Reed Turrell is a psychotherapist, clinical supervisor, podcaster and author of Please Yourself: How to Stop People-Pleasing and Transform the Way You Live and What Am I Missing? Discover the Four Blind Spots That are Holding You Back and How to Overcome Them . Hal Cruttenden is a stand-up comedian, actor and podcaster. In his latest show, Hal Cruttenden: Can Dish It Out But Can't Take It , he discussed the devastation of his divorce - after 20 years of marriage his wife left him. Jonathan Fitter-Harding is a proud dad of two, a creative entrepreneur and one of the key people behind Pride Canterbury - the main LGBTQ+ event in the South East. Ebele Okobi is the principal of Revolutionary Projects, an advisor, board member and maker of good trouble with 25 years of experience leading global teams across tech, consumer brands and arts institutions. More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Want ongoing support as you rebuild after separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on emotional wellbeing and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . We're giving away a copy of Kate’s book amicable divorce . To enter, just email us at hello@amicable.co.uk with the subject 'The Divorce Podcast' by the 30th of June, and we'll pick a winner at random. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #SeparationStories

Divorce can hit men hard – and many dads withdraw just when they need people most. For divorcing dads, that isolation isn't only painful – it can be dangerous. Kate is joined by psychologist Dr Eran Magen, founder of Divorcing Dads , to explore why men are so much more at risk during separation – and the simple things that help them through it. We talk about: Why divorced dads face a much higher suicide risk The particular challenges separated dads face, and the part society still plays in making them harder How a strong support network protects men's mental health A simple way to tell friends and family what's going on - and ask for what you need This episode is for any dad going through separation – and for anyone who wants to better support the men they care about. Trigger warning: this episode talks about poor mental health and suicide. If you're affected by anything discussed, you can call Samaritans free on 116 123 , or text SHOUT to 85258 . Meet Eran Magen Dr. Eran Magen earned his M.A. in education and Ph.D. in psychology from Stanford University and completed post-doctoral training in child psychology and population health. He is currently an assistant clinical professor at the Yale School of Medicine Department of Psychiatry. Eran is the founder of Divorcing Dads and Parenting For Humans , both of which support parents in building strong, collaborative and joyful relationships with their children. He is also the founder of EarlyAlert , which provides early suicide prevention support for students and veterans. You can listen to Eran on the Divorcing Dads podcast and get in touch with him on LinkedIn. More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Want ongoing support as you rebuild after separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on emotional wellbeing and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on navigating separation with kindness and rebuilding your identity and moving forward with confidence. Find it on Amazon today. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #EmotionalJourney

Think of every picture book your child has ever loved. How many show a family going through separation? Almost none - so what does that silence tell a child whose reality looks very different? Kate is joined by Elizabeth Rudnick , whose picture book First Night at Dad's was born from her own experience of separation. Together they explore the gap in children's literature around divorce, why the right story can make a real difference - and how to start the conversations that matter most. We talk about: Elizabeth's personal story of separation and what it taught her about how children process change Why so few children's books reflect the reality of separated families The milestones we forget to mark - why a child's first night at dad's deserves the same acknowledgement as their first steps Why the right book helps both child and parent through a tricky moment together Practical tips for talking to your children about separation in an age-appropriate way This episode is for any parent who wants to support their child through separation but isn't sure where to start - and for anyone who works with or cares for children going through family change. Meet Elizabeth Rudnick Elizabeth Rudnick has worked in publishing for over two decades as a writer, editor, and agent. She has written more than thirty books including the Young Adult novel Tweet Heart, as well as numerous bestselling Disney novelisations such as Cinderella, Frozen, Moana, and Beauty and the Beast . First Night at Dad's is her first original picture-book. Elizabeth lives in North Carolina, with her son and their dog. You can find First Night at Dad's on Amazon , and you can get in touch with Elizabeth on her website or on Instagram . More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Or explore our Separating with Children Service - a 90-minute joint session with a Co-parenting Specialist tailored to your family’s needs. Want ongoing support through separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on co-parenting and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on co-parenting, with practical guidance on supporting your children's wellbeing, talking to them in age-appropriate ways and building a cooperative co-parenting relationship that reduces conflict. Find it on Amazon today. Want to stay organised as co-parents? Download our free Parenting Plan template to help you and your co-parent agree on shared goals, routines and decision-making – with your children at the centre. Try the amicable co-parenting app free for 3 months to share calendars, track expenses and communicate clearly. Open this link on your phone, install the app, create your account, select 'I have a promo code', enter PODCAST and press ‘apply’. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #Coparenting

Becoming a step-mum comes with almost none of the roadmaps, support or community that biological mums get. If you're finding it harder than you expected, this episode will help you understand why - and what you can actually do about it. Kate is joined by Katie South , transformational coach and founder of Stepmum Space , to explore why stepfamilies struggle - and what it really takes to make them stronger. We talk about: Why advice like ‘love them as your own’ sets step-mums up to fail Why step-parents often feel powerless - and what to do about it' How to have the important conversations early, before you're already deep in it The practical building blocks for creating stability and emotional safety at home This episode is for anyone who is repartnering or has repartnered after separation, especially those navigating life as a step-parent or supporting a partner through it. Meet Katie South Katie South is a UK-based transformational coach specialising in stepfamily dynamics and the relationship challenges that come after divorce. She is the founder of Stepmum Space, where she works with stepmums, divorced dads and step-couples navigating co-parenting conflict, boundary breakdown and emotional overload. Through her coaching and podcast, Stepmum Space , she helps couples move from blame and battle toward long-term stability. You can get in touch with Katie on her website . More divorce resources Ready to take a practical next step? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Or explore our Separating with Children Service – a 90-minute joint session with a Co-parenting Specialist tailored to your family’s needs. Want ongoing support through separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on emotional wellbeing and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate's book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on co-parenting, with practical guidance on supporting your children's wellbeing. Find it on Amazon today. Want to stay organised as co-parents? Download our free Parenting Plan template to help you and your co-parent agree on shared goals, routines and decision-making – with your children at the centre. Try the amicable co-parenting app free for 3 months to share calendars, track expenses and communicate clearly. Open this link on your phone, install the app, create your account, select 'I have a promo code', enter PODCAST and press ‘apply’. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #Coparenting

Your values shape every relationship you have - so what happens to them during a separation? Kate is joined by Katie Lancaster , an executive and leadership coach, to explore why holding onto your values during divorce can change everything about how you come out the other side. If you're trying to get through a divorce or separation in a kinder, calmer way, this conversation is full of practical tips to help you stay grounded. We talk about: How to stay true to yourself in tough divorce negotiations - even when emotions are running high The ABC technique (awareness, breathe, choose) for moving from reaction to response Why self-compassion is a non-negotiable, not a nice-to-have Why your divorce might not feel over even when the paperwork says it is This episode is for anyone going through separation or divorce who wants to come through it feeling stronger, kinder and more like themselves. Meet Katie Lancaster Katie Lancaster is an ICF and CTI certified executive and leadership coach who helps senior leaders and teams perform better and find more meaning in their work. After starting her career at Boston Consulting Group in Munich and completing an MBA at IESE Barcelona, she held board-level roles at global communications agencies in London. She has also built her own consultancy, advises start-ups and is a member of the Harvard Business Review Advisory Council. You can learn more about Katie on her website and you can get in touch with her on LinkedIn . More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Want ongoing support through separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on emotional wellbeing and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate's book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on emotional readiness and timing, navigating separation with kindness, rebuilding your identity and moving forward with confidence. Find it on Amazon today. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #EmotionalJourney

Mental health at work is hard to talk about - and for men, it can feel even harder, especially when divorce or separation is part of the picture. In this episode, Kate is joined by Mel Sterling, Senior People Leader at Halfords , to talk about men's mental health at work - what to look for, what to say and why divorce is the missing piece in most workplace wellbeing strategies. We talk about: How men's mental health often shows up differently at work - and what to look out for Why divorce and separation are still missing from most workplace wellbeing strategies The simple ‘ask twice’ technique that can change a conversation Who to talk to at work when you're going through separation - and what to ask for How employers can build a culture where people feel safe to speak up This episode is for anyone navigating divorce or separation alongside work - and for the employers, HR teams and colleagues who want to better support the men around them. Research referenced in this episode is from Priory Group's research on men and mental health. Meet Mel Sterling Mel Sterling is a Senior People Leader at Halfords , with a career spent shaping how some of the UK's biggest organisations look after their people. Across roles at Halfords, Holland & Barrett and Sainsbury's, she's led work on colleague wellbeing, inclusion and culture - partnering with executive teams to build environments where people feel supported, represented and able to bring their whole selves to work. She has a track record of making wellbeing and inclusion genuinely work in practice - not just on paper. You can get in touch with Mel and read more about her work on LinkedIn . More divorce resources Ready to take a practical next step? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Want ongoing support through separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on emotional wellbeing and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate's book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on emotional readiness and timing, navigating separation with kindness, rebuilding your identity and moving forward with confidence. Find it on Amazon today. Are you an employer looking to better support employees through relationship change? To find out how amicable partners with organisations to provide expert support, book a discovery call . Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #EmotionalJourney

Single parenting after separation is a lot – and so much of it goes unspoken. Kate is joined by Orla Donoghue , coach and single mum, for an honest conversation about the realities of single parenting after divorce and things that help make it simpler. We talk about: How to get through the first year of being a single parent How to communicate with your co-parent and set boundaries Why asking for help as a single parent is a sign of strength Small, affordable ways to carve out time for yourself – without guilt This episode is for anyone navigating single parenting after divorce or separation – especially those who feel like they're carrying it all on their own. Meet Orla Donoghue Orla Donoghue is a speaker, writer and coach, specialising in the realities of modern parenthood and life transitions. Drawing on her own lived experience as a single parent, she combines personal insight with practical strategies to help people navigate the emotional, social and logistical challenges of parenting alone. Orla’s work focuses on creating honest conversations, building support systems, and developing practical approaches that make both work and home life feel more sustainable. You can get in touch with Orla through Solas Coaching website and you can listen to her podcast Single Parent Reset for more helpful advice More divorce resources Ready to talk through your co-parenting approach? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Or explore our Separating with Children Service – a 90-minute joint session with a Co-parenting Specialist tailored to your family’s needs. Looking for guidance on managing child-related costs? Kate's book amicable divorce includes a dedicated chapter on managing the day-to-day costs of raising children across two homes, from child maintenance to school trips, with frameworks for reaching fair agreements that prevent ongoing conflict. Find it on Amazon today. Want to stay organised as co-parents? Download our free Parenting Plan template to help you and your co-parent agree on shared goals, routines and decision-making – with your children at the centre. Try the amicable co-parenting app free for 3 months to share calendars, track expenses and communicate clearly. Open this link on your phone, install the app, create your account, select 'I have a promo code', enter PODCAST and press ‘apply’. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #Coparenting

Separation and a complete career change at the same time – sound overwhelming? For Libby Brodie, it was the start of something unexpected. Kate is joined by Libby Brodie , celebrated columnist and founder of Bacchus and Brodie wine consultancy, to hear her story of navigating a marriage breakdown during lockdown – while simultaneously rebuilding her career from the ground up. We talk about: How Libby navigated separation and job loss at the same time The stories we tell ourselves – and why letting go of them can help you grow How two happy homes can be the best thing for your children Libby's tips for the trickiest parts of divorce - finances, co-parenting and communication This episode is for anyone going through a difficult chapter who needs a reminder that it's possible to come out the other side – not just okay, but genuinely thriving. Meet Libby Brodie Libby Brodie is an industry-renowned wine expert, celebrated columnist and founder of Bacchus & Brodie wine consultancy. As City AM's dedicated wine columnist, she's built a reputation as one of the UK's brightest female wine talents – contributing to Condé Nast Traveller, The Independent, Cosmopolitan and more. Before wine, Libby was an award-winning theatre and film producer. When the pandemic closed every show overnight, she pivoted into the wine world – passing her Wine and Spirits Education Trust qualification with Distinction in just six months. You can get in touch with Libby on Instagram and you can learn more about her work on Bacchus & Brodie website. You can also hear Libby talk about all things wine and wellbeing on her podcast ‘The Inner Table; The Art of Living Well’ . More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Want ongoing support through separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on emotional wellbeing and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on navigating separation with kindness, rebuilding your identity and moving forward with confidence. Find it on Amazon today. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #SeparationStory

In this episode, Kate is joined by Ebele Okobi , who has held senior roles at OpenAI, Meta and Nike. But in this conversation, it's her separation story that takes centre stage. And this one is different – you'll want to stay right till the end to find out why. We talk about: The circumstances that led Ebele to the decision to separate How society can make it harder to do things kindly – both in divorce and co-parenting How Ebele’s children and friends responded to the news Why communication matters so much through separation How certain revelations can completely change the way you see your life and your relationship There's a big reveal at the end – and it's worth the wait. This episode is for anyone navigating separation and looking for a story of hope – and a reminder that there's not a single right way to do this. Trigger warning: This episode touches on content some listeners may find distressing, including violence, murder, police brutality, racial discrimination and genocide. Please take care of yourself while listening. Meet Ebele Okobi Ebele Okobi is the principal of Revolutionary Projects, an advisor, board member and maker of good trouble with 25 years of experience leading global teams across tech, consumer brands and arts institutions. With a background spanning corporate law, policy and the C-suite – including roles at OpenAI, Facebook/Meta, Nike and Dr. Martens – she now focuses her energy on organisations that push towards joy, justice and better worlds. More divorce resources Need expert help right now? Book a free 15-minute consultation with an amicable expert for guidance on the legal, financial, emotional or co-parenting aspects of separation. Want ongoing support as you rebuild after separation? Join amicable space for bonus podcast episodes, exclusive webinars and articles on emotional wellbeing and an interactive community where you can share questions and get expert advice from amicable specialists. Start your free trial here . Kate’s book amicable divorce includes dedicated chapters on navigating separation with kindness, rebuilding your identity and moving forward with confidence. Find it on Amazon today. Got a question for a future episode? Share your thoughts at hello@amicable.co.uk or through direct messages on Instagram . #SeparationStory