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Real Trail Talk

Published by Donovan de Souza & Mark Pybus

  • Places & travel
  • Society & culture
  • Sports
  • Wilderness

Western Australian Hiking Podcast hosted by Donovan from The Long Way’s Better and Mark from The Life of Py.

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  1. Number 61WildernessAustralia

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  1. Episode 104 - The Hexatrek with Tilly Hikes from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    May 14, 20261 hr 15 min

    We are joined by WA local Tilly Johnson (aka @tillyhikes) to talk about her 3000-kilometre hike across France on the Hexatrek. Chatting about everything from logistics, to food, to the people, it was great to sit down and hear all about Tilly's adventures.

  2. Episode 103 - 2025 Year in Review from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Apr 30, 20261 hr 56 min

    Donovan and Mark discuss their 2025 adventures, highlights, lowlights, answer your questions, and run through the yearly topics.

  3. Episode 102 - Hiking with Kids from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Feb 26, 20261 hr 0 min

    We are joined by Expedition Leader, Ecologist, Hiker, and Mum, Dr Kate Grarock to discuss everything to do with hiking with kids. With Donovan and Kate both becoming parents in the last few years, we talk about the joys, challenges, funny moments, and all the considerations that go into hiking with small children.

  4. Episode 101 - Native Gardens from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Oct 2, 20251 hr 58 min

    Joining us in the studio to discuss all things native gardens are big time gardening enthusiasts, Angela from Studio Nikulinsky, and Christine from the ABC. In this episode we nerd out on what we enjoy about our own native gardens, what got us into native gardening, our favourite plants, challenges, heartbreak, and everything in-between. We hope you enjoy this tangential discussion, and get inspired to plant your own native garden.

  5. Episode 100 - A Look Back + Q&A from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    May 19, 20251 hr 15 min

    We made it to 100 episodes, and to celebrate we take a look back at the past eight years of the podcast, talk about the journey, our favourite moments, and then answer your questions. Thank you to everyone that has listened to us ramble on about trails and hiking over the years, it really is appreciated when you reach out with questions, feedback or general comments.

  6. Episode 99 - 2024 Year in Review from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Mar 28, 20251 hr 28 min

    It's that time again, where Donovan and Mark sit down and discuss their 2024 adventures, where they visited, what they did, and how they felt about the year. Visit The Long Ways Better here Visit The Life of Py here

  7. Episode 98 - Kiandra to Kosciuszko from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Jan 1, 20251 hr 1 min

    Donovan hiked a six day stretch of the Australian Alps Walking Track (AAWT) in 2024 between Kiandra and Kosciuszko, and we sit down to have a chat about the experience. From historic huts to stunning alpine terrain, there is plenty to enjoy along this hike, although Donovan did encounter some challenges that we discuss during the episode.

  8. Episode 97 - The Australian Triple Crown from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Oct 26, 20241 hr 31 min

    Donovan chats to Kevin Moss aka Goin Feral about the Australian Triple Crown, the Australian Alps Walking Trail (AAWT), Heysen Trail and Bibbulmun Track. Kevin completed all three trails in 2024, and discusses what makes them different, his experiences on all three, and how they compare.

  9. Episode 96 - Mark Wrote a Second Book from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Oct 3, 202424 min

    After releasing his first book in 2023, Best Walks of South West WA, Mark has a follow-up book titled Best Walks of South Coast WA. Covering the stunning walks between Walpole and Cape Arid, and everything in-between, there are 42 trails ranging from coastal hikes to mountain climbs. Get your copy today by visiting Mark's Online Store , using the code RTT10 to get a further 10% off the new book.

  10. Episode 95 - Day Hikes of the Northern Territory from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Jul 30, 202442 min

    With a plethora of national parks and stunning scenery in the Northern Territory, we sit down and discuss the hiking options going from the north to the south.

  11. Episode 94 - What Makes a Good Trail from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    May 9, 20241 hr 6 min

    In this episode we discuss what makes a good trail, ranging design, experience, scenery, facilities and everything in-between. On top of that we talk about why we like trails so much, and what goes into a great trail experience in our opinion.

  12. Episode 93 - 2023 Year in Review from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Feb 7, 20241 hr 53 min

    One of our favourite episodes of the year, we discuss our 2023 Adventures by going through what we enjoyed, what we didn't, and then some answer some listener questions. Thank you everyone who has tuned in during 2023, we really appreciate it.

  13. Episode 92 - Bibbulmun Track 25th Anniversary from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Nov 30, 20231 hr 9 min

    We are joined by Steve Sertis from the Bibbulmun Track Foundation to discuss the journey of what went into the 25th Anniversary End to End Walk. Steve shares some great stories, explains the challenges of organising the event, and reflects on the Bibbulmun and the wonderful community that supports it.

  14. Episode 91 - Mark Wrote a Book from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Jul 20, 202328 min

    Best Walks of South West WA is a new guidebook written by Mark, showcasing 40 great walks from the South West and exploring the beautiful forests, coastline and rivers of this unique region. In this episode we have a bit of a chat about the process of writing the guidebook, what you can expect and what's coming in the future. Order your copy using the link below and use the code RTT10 to get a further 10% off the already great price on The Life of Py. https://www.thelifeofpy.com/product-page/best-walks-of-south-west-wa Note - The episode was recorded before the book was launched and there is now a flat $5 shipping fee on every order but the free gift with purchase remains.

  15. Episode 90 - South Coast Track - Part Two from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Jun 19, 202349 min

    Continuing on with our discussion about the South Coast Track , this episode sees Bronwyn return as we chat about the final three days on this stunning week long hike in the Tasmanian Wilderness.

  16. Episode 89 - South Coast Track - Part One from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    May 9, 20231 hr 1 min

    In January 2023, Donovan, Mark and Bonny completed the South Coast Track in Tasmania and we sit down to discuss the first four days on this rugged adventure in the remote wilderness of Southwest National Park.

  17. Episode 88 - 2022 Year In Review from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Mar 21, 20231 hr 25 min

    We are back!!! While we have taken a break from podcasting for the latter half of 2022, we were still out exploring. As we discuss, there have been some big changes to our lives in 2022 (Donovan especially) and so we've sat down to have a chat about everything that happened.

  18. Episode 87 - Munda Biddi - Denmark to Albany + Aron from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    May 6, 20221 hr 11 min

    We are joined by Aron aka 1A1R to discuss the final section of the Munda Biddi Trail between Denmark and Albany before chatting about Mark and Aron's E2E back in September 2021.

  19. Episode 86 - Munda Biddi - Walpole to Denmark from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Feb 25, 20221 hr 25 min

    The penultimate section of the 1065km Munda Biddi Trail, this is the last of the wilderness as you head into the Tingle Forest leaving Walpole and then explore the national parks to the north of the coastline. We had wildly different opinions about this section from our different experiences of riding the trail. There are also a couple of announcements regarding the future of the podcast so if you're a long time listener then stay until the end.

  20. Episode 85 - 2021 Year in Review from Real Trail Talk, opens in a new tab

    Jan 14, 20221 hr 43 min

    It's been a weird and disrupted year so we sit down to discuss the past 12 months, our adventures, our thoughts and then answer your questions.

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