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Political Thinking with Nick Robinson

Published by BBC Radio 4

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Nick Robinson talks to people who shape our political thinking about what shaped theirs. Each episode of Political Thinking features an in-depth conversation with someone who is shaping our politics. The people who run our country (and those who want to), campaigners, business and union leaders, and people who run other countries. All of them join Nick in the studio, not for a news-y interrogation, but for an extended and relaxed conversation, delving into their past and how it shaped their worldview. New episodes drop on Fridays on BBC Sounds. You can also watch them on BBC Two at 12:15 pm on Fridays or on BBC iPlayer. And you can listen on BBC Radio 4 on Saturdays at 17:30.

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  1. Number 135PoliticsAustralia
  2. Number 23PoliticsUnited Kingdom
  3. Number 48NewsUnited Kingdom
  4. Number 168PoliticsNorway

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Recent episodes

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  1. Angela Rayner on her return to the top table: 'It’s good to give people a second chance'

    Sep 11, 202645 min

    The Housing Secretary joins Nick for the first episode of a new series of Political Thinking. Angela Rayner talks about the change of character, personality and politics in Downing Street under new leadership. She opens up about how it felt to "lose the confidence of the people" after being accused of not paying the tax she owed. And she defends her decision to halt a huge local government reorganisation that had been started by her predecessor. -------- Send us your thoughts, reactions, questions and suggestions to politicalthinking@bbc.co.uk Senior Producer: Daniel Kraemer Producer: Flora Murray Sound: Ged Sudlow and Andrew Mills Editor: Giles Edwards

  2. "It's not a purge!" Kemi Badenoch on forging a future for her party

    Jul 23, 202635 min

    As the Burnham era dawns, the Leader of the Opposition on why it's time to transform her party, what would get her round the table with the new Prime Minister - and the people who believed in her when no one else did. Producer: Hannah Wilkinson

  3. 'Our donors are brave people': Reform's Robert Jenrick on wealth, power, and the establishment

    Jul 17, 202639 min

    As the country reels from the death of Reform's Ann Widdecombe, the party's Treasury Spokesman discusses the threat to politicians, debates whether calling politicians racists and traitors is dangerous, and explains why the ‘cosy club’ of politics is in for a shock. Producer: Hannah Wilkinson

  4. We've got a plan: Louise Haigh on her journey back to power

    Jul 9, 202642 min

    The former Transport Secretary, sidelined by Keir Starmer, reveals she's been working with Burnham on a plan for government for at least a year, and has already seen the prospective Prime Minister make tough decisions. Also - bringing hope back to politics, navigating an exotic bird auction, and playing football in the House of Commons chamber. Recorded in front of a live audience at the Crossed Wires Festival in her home town of Sheffield. Producer: Hannah Wilkinson

  5. The Treasury was in denial: John Healey on why he resigned as defence secretary

    Jul 6, 202628 min

    In his first interview since resigning from Keir Starmer's government, the former Defence Secretary John Healey talks about the threats we face, his hopes for a Burnham government, and why he thinks the Treasury is in denial. Producer: Hannah Wilkinson

  6. What went wrong for Starmer: Morgan McSweeney gives his side of the story

    Jul 2, 20261 hr 5 min

    In his first ever interview, the Prime Minister's former Chief of Staff Morgan McSweeney lifts the lid on winning power, dealing with Trump, and how project Starmer fell apart. Producer: Hannah Wilkinson.

  7. 'A bad start even before he starts' - Welsh First Minister on why trouble's brewing with Burnham

    Jun 26, 202634 min

    The new First Minister of Wales Rhun ap Iorwerth on what Wales really wants, why Reform surged in the Senedd election, and how working as a nightclub bouncer will help him deal with Andy Burnham.

  8. From Downing Street... to California Governor? Former Tory adviser Steve Hilton on making the Golden State great again

    Jun 19, 202632 min

    Former Tory adviser and candidate for California Governor Steve Hilton on the frustrations that drove his political journey and why he believes the Golden State can turn red.

  9. 'We need some daydreaming': lawyer Theodor Meron on surviving the Holocaust, and issuing Netanyahu’s arrest warrant

    Jun 12, 202631 min

    International lawyer and judge Theodor Meron on issuing Netanyahu’s arrest warrant, and how daydreaming helped him to survive the Holocaust. This episode has been subject to a Corrections and Clarifications note: https://www.bbc.co.uk/helpandfeedback/corrections_clarifications

  10. Why Starmer will survive: The Attorney General on human rights, small boats, and his ‘dogged’ friend the Prime Minister

    Jun 5, 202635 min

    The Attorney General Richard Hermer speaks to Nick about small boats, his most controversial cases, and why his old friend Keir Starmer can survive a leadership challenge.

  11. “Inequalities don’t happen by accident” Dr Mary-Ann Stephenson on trans rights, Islamophobia, and why equality still matters

    May 29, 202636 min

    Chair of the equalities watchdog, Dr Mary-Ann Stephenson, on sex and gender, the right to protest, and doing one of the hardest jobs in Britain.

  12. 'What the hell are we doing?' Wes Streeting on his promise to young people, resigning from government, and wanting to be PM

    May 21, 202652 min

    Labour leadership contender and former health secretary Wes Streeting on what prompted his resignation, the challenges of being a working class politician, and his wealth tax plan.

  13. Why the PM has to go: Miatta Fahnbulleh on being the first minister to break with Starmer

    May 15, 202649 min

    The former Communities Minister Miatta Fahnbulleh, who was the first Minister to resign from Keir Starmer's government after the elections, discusses reaching breaking point, who should lead Labour now, and why she's terrified of where politics is going. She also talks about her experience as a civil servant working with Conservative Ministers, and why her children are her toughest critics. Senior Producer: Hannah Wilkinson Producer: Flora Murray Sound: Jack Wilfan Editor: Giles Edwards

  14. 'It's been a whirlwind': Zack Polanski on storytelling, Zionism and Zackonomics

    Mar 20, 202654 min

    Few people have done more to shape politics in recent months than the Green Party Leader in England and Wales, Zack Polanski. In his Political Thinking debut, he tells Nick Robinson about his 'whirlwind' journey since becoming leader, saying that becoming PM is now 'in his mind' . He talks about his upbringing and Jewish identity and why he has now become a prominent critic of Israel. He explains his strong opposition to the war in Iran. He describes his plans to transform the capitalist model with a revolution based on 'Zackonomics'. And, asked about his earlier career as a hypnotherapist, he admits to 'cringing' when reminded that he once participated in a trial to help a woman increase her breast size. Producers: Leela Padmanabhan and Flora Murray Editor: GIles Edwards

  15. From Sky boss to Number 10: Shadow Business Secretary Andrew Griffith

    Mar 13, 202639 min

    Andrew Griffith on why government sometimes has to say 'no' and why Rupert Murdoch was the "best boss". The Shadow Business Secretary was once the youngest Chief Financial Officer of any major British company, when he worked at Sky, before becoming an MP an joining Boris Johnson's team in Downing Street. Senior Producer: Daniel Kraemer Producer: Flora Murray Editor: Giles Edwards

  16. 'We cannot have chaos': Emily Thornberry on the law of war and Labour's struggles

    Mar 6, 202641 min

    The Foreign Affairs Committee Chair on Iran, Trump's 'asteroid of awfulness' and the 'grief' she felt after being dropped by Starmer. Emily Thornberry tells Nick about how her father's career as a UN peacekeeper helped shape her commitment to the ideals of international law. She also has frank views about what her party needs to do to stem the rise of the Green Party. Senior Producer: Daniel Kraemer Producer: Flora Murray Sound: Jack Wilfan Editor: Giles Edwards

  17. 'This is Iran's Berlin Wall moment': Omid Djalili, comedian and actor

    Feb 27, 202646 min

    The British-Iranian comic on revolutions, Kensington, 9/11 jokes, King Charles and Iran's future. Omid Djalili has become one of the loudest voices in the Iranian diaspora calling for the overthrow of the regime in Tehran, in favour of US military action. While the world waits for Trump's next steps, Djalili talks to Nick about growing up in a hub of London's Iranian community, chasing history from Berlin to Czechoslovakia, deciding to perform in Saudi Arabia and turning down Game of Thrones Producers: Daniel Kraemer and Flora Murray Sound: Jack Wilfan Editor: Giles Edwards

  18. 'We're appeasing the tech bros': Beeban Kidron, from film-maker to lawmaker

    Feb 20, 202647 min

    What links Bridget Jones to social media regulation? The answer: Baroness Beeban Kidron. In 2004 she directed the Bridget Jones sequal. 20 years later, she became one of the most vocal campaigners for regulation of social media and tech in the UK. She joins Nick in the Political Thinking studio to tell her story, from joining Marxist dinner parties in her childhood home, to filming and living with the protesters of Greenham Common in the 1980s. Today, she has strong words for Keir Starmer's government, and is pushing for law-changes from her seat in the House of Lords. Producers: Daniel Kraemer and Flora Murray Editor: Giles Edwards

  19. Nigel Farage: 'Broken Britain', national identity and lessons from Trump

    Feb 13, 202652 min

    A frank conversation with the leader of Reform UK. Nigel Farage has put his party on a "general election war footing" and says he is preparing for power. What has his party still got to learn before they're ready? Who is he referring to when he talks about putting "our own people first"? And what made him change his mind and return to politics? Senior Producer: Daniel Kraemer Producer: Flora Murray Editor: Giles Edwards Sound: Ged Sudlow This episode has been subject to a Corrections and Clarifications note: https://www.bbc.co.uk/helpandfeedback/corrections_clarifications

  20. How to tell England’s story: James Graham, playwright

    Feb 6, 202643 min

    James Graham joined Nick in the political thinking studio in late January, ahead of a this year's TV adaptation of his play Dear England. What did Gareth Southgate get right about national identity? What advice does the playwright have for Keir Starmer on storytelling? And why is it important that people continue to go to the theatre? Senior Producer: Daniel Kraemer Producer: Flora Murray Sound: Ged Sudlow and Hal Haines Editor: Giles Edwards

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