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The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show

Published by David Lee and Marina Bourderonnet

  • Arts
  • Education
  • Design
  • Self-improvement

The Second Studio is an explicit podcast about design, architecture, and the everyday. Hosted by Architects David Lee and Marina Bourderonnet, the show covers a wide array of subjects with humor and honesty and features a variety of creative professionals in unscripted and more personal conversations.

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  1. Number 133DesignAustralia
  2. Number 25DesignCanada
  3. Number 82DesignUnited Kingdom
  4. Number 95DesignNorway
  5. Number 23DesignUnited States

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  1. #518 - Building a Custom House as Spec House from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Sep 16, 20261 hr 8 min

    This week, David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design discuss building custom homes as spec homes. The two cover the types of houses, the differences between custom homes and spec homes, designing for resale value, planning for change, balancing good design with being cost-effective, timelines for spec and custom homes, client influences, why custom homes might not work out, build quality, resale profit, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  2. #517 - Anthony Poon, Founder of Poon Design Inc. from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Sep 9, 20261 hr 5 min

    This week, David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design are joined by Anthony Poon, Founder of Poon Design Inc . The three discussed Anthony's background, music & architecture, design approach, early career experience, architecture, writing & music as one creative process, marketing an architecture firm, when Anthony started Poon Design, being a specialist in design, finding an architectural style, what makes an ideal client, ideal project type, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  3. #516 - After Hours: Are Real Estate Agents Overvalued? from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Sep 1, 20261 hr 10 min

    This week, David and Marina have a casual chat about anechoic chambers, real estate listings, prices, and buzzwords, real estate agents (are they overcompensated?), and what constitutes 'good design' in the public's eye. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  4. #515 - Brent Buck, Founder and Principal at Brent Buck Architects from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Aug 25, 20261 hr 19 min

    This week, David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design are joined by Brent Buck, founder and principal at Brent Buck Architects . The three discussed Brent's background, architecture education, inspiring buildings during his travels, what's consistent in his work, efficiency in design details, making compromises, starchitects & interior designers, how architects can communicate better, the Clinton Hill project, favorite building & experiences, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  5. #514 - After Hours: Visiting Santa Barbara from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Aug 18, 20261 hr 1 min

    This week, David and Marina have a casual chat about frustrating team members and their weekend trip to Santa Barbara, covering Santa Barbara's architecture, landscape, restaurants, a giant prix fixe meal, the town, and paying $5 for half a cup of milk. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  6. #513 - Joshua Ramus, Founding Principal of REX from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Aug 11, 20261 hr 19 min

    This week, David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design are joined by Joshua Ramus, founding principal of REX . The two discussed Joshua's background, designing for performance, best approach to client meetings, design competitions, office size & structure, interior design, being involved in all projects, design philosophy, project types, being flexible in design thinking, defending design concepts, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  7. #512 - Overcoming Imposter Syndrome in Architecture from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Aug 4, 20261 hr 4 min

    This week, David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design answer questions from listeners. The two discuss dealing with imposter syndrome, architecture office hiring logic and unions, being proactive in an office, confidence, design idea contribution, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  8. #511 - Andrew Bernheimer, Founding Principal of Bernheimer Architecture from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Jul 28, 20261 hr 33 min

    This week, David of FAME Architecture & Design is joined by Andrew Bernheimer, founding principal of Bernheimer Architecture . The two discussed how and why Andrew unionized his firm, what the purpose of unionization is, the structure of a unionized practice, the process of unionization, how long it takes, the process to change the union contract, how unionizing impacts the design process, next steps for Andrew, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  9. #510 - Client Questions: Phasing Projects and Starting Before the Architect is Hired from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Jul 22, 20261 hr 19 min

    This week, David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design answer common client questions: Can my construction project be phased? Can I start my project before the architect is hired? The two discuss how much of the project needs to be designed, misconceptions and common mistakes in phased projects, starting a project before hiring an architect, what to do before signing an architect, client consultation calls, why architects' fees vary, customer service, and vetting architects & clients. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  10. #509 - Ludwig Godefroy, Founder of Ludwig Godefroy Architecture from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Jul 14, 20261 hr 25 min

    This week, David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design are joined by Ludwig Godefroy , a French architect based in Mexico City known for his brutalist, concrete-driven work. The two discussed how building codes and construction culture differ between France and Mexico, the handcrafted construction methods that recall Le Corbusier's era, the technical challenges of building a brutalist concrete cabin in the extreme cold of Alaska, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  11. #508 - After Hours: Guest Critiquing and Students Rejecting AI? from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Jul 7, 202631 min

    This week, David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design discuss what it actually feels like to sit on a review panel, staying fully present through hours of critiquing student work back to back, students rejecting AI tools, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  12. #507 - David Lee, Founder of Buildnotes from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Jul 1, 20261 hr 7 min

    This week, David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design are joined by David Lee, founder of Buildnotes . The two discussed how David got involved with the LA fire rebuild effort, bulk purchasing, what is Buildnotes, how it started, and how it works, types of vendors and products on Buildnotes, how the community can help, navigating different community organizations, gaining trust, marketing and vendors intake, collaborating with large developers, how payment and purchases work on Buildnotes, next step for Buildnotes, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  13. #506 - Design Review LACMA by Peter Zumthor from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Jun 24, 20261 hr 1 min

    This week, David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design review the Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA). The two discussed LACMA's entry & exterior, the interior design, external experience of LACMA, materiality, inside-outside connection, dark interior & psychological impact, building details, artwork display, open plan design, food options, architectural forms, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  14. #505 - Daniel Green, Founder of Blackbriar Development from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Jun 16, 20262 hr 4 min

    This week, David of FAME Architecture & Design is joined by Daniel Green, Founder of Blackbriar Development . The two discussed how David and Marina started the Second Studio Podcast, the creativity and design process, designing architecture experiences, cohesive design vision, construction phase, modern vs traditional, Daniel Green's background and Blackbriar Development, hiring architects & contractors to solve problems, building a business & management, ideal project & client, managing budget & aesthetics, importance of pre-construction service, guiding clients throughout project, Pacific Palisades fire rebuild, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  15. #504 - After Hours: Recent Starchitect Projects and Architecture Trends in School from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Jun 9, 20261 hr 14 min

    This week, David and Marina have a casual chat about architecture projects: Copenhagen's new tower, LACMA by Zumthor, OMA's New Museum extension, unoccupied buildings by famous architects, architecture trends in school, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  16. #503 - David Prutting, Founder and Owner of Prutting & Co from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    Jun 2, 20261 hr 30 min

    This week, David of FAME Architecture & Design is joined by David Prutting, Founder and Owner of Prutting & Co . The two discussed David's background, his career journey, starting his own business as a contractor, working on new builds, arrogance and ego in design, communication and alignment with clients, Grace Farm project by SANAA, good architect contractor partnership, pre-construction service, change in construction costs, most challenging project, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  17. #502 - After Hours: TV Shows & David and Marina's Predictive Index Behavioral Assessment from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    May 26, 20261 hr 24 min

    This week, David and Marina have a short chat about TV shows, then dive into their Predictive Index Behavorial Assessments, discussing the personality tendencies and dynamics in the workplace. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  18. #501 - After Hours: Disneyland! from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    May 20, 20261 hr 19 min

    This week, David and Marina have a casual chat about their trip to Disneyland. The two discuss Star Wars Galaxy's Edge, the Rise of the Resitance, food, the making of Disneyland, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  19. #500 - Saul Kim, Director of Saul Kim Studio from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    May 13, 20261 hr 18 min

    This week, David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design are joined by Saul Kim, Director of Saul Kim Studio & Adjunct Professor at Hanyang University ERICA. The three discussed Saul's background and architecture education, finding his own niche in architecture, pursuing a master's degree, anomalies and experimental studies, teaching students to find their style, communicating conceptual architecture, simple yet captivating buildings, getting hired based on conceptual projects, translating an abstract concept to a build project, Saul's latest work, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

  20. #499 - Steven Fleming, Architect, Author, and Design Educator from The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show, opens in a new tab

    May 5, 20261 hr 26 min

    This week David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design are joined by Steven Fleming , architect, author, and design educator. The three discussed Steven's background, Platonist & utopian architecture, architects & visionary work, famous architects' commissions and client relationships, issue with architecture teachers, Steven's career journey, books & bikes, mission as a teacher, architecture tutor, teaching high schoolers design thinking, and more. This episode is supporte d by Chaos • Programa • Future London Academy SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Office • Instagram • Facebook • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews : Interviews with industry leaders. • Project Companion : Informative talks for clients. • Fellow Designer : Tips for designers. • After Hours : Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews : Reviews of creative projects and buildings. The views, opinions, or beliefs expressed by Sponsee or Sponsee's guests on the Sponsored Podcast Episodes do not reflect the views, opinions, or beliefs of Sponsor.

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