So Fly Fishing Podcast

Stillwater legend Phil Rowley joins us to talk about what decades of chasing trout on lakes have taught him, and what he’s still trying to figure out. We get into how Phil reads unfamiliar water, the clues he trusts most, why anglers sometimes overcomplicate things, and how to know when to change your fly, depth, retrieve, or location. Then, Mitch puts Phil’s knowledge to the test with a very specific mission: help him catch a rainbow trout on an unfamiliar Ontario lake. From trout behaviour and entomology to float tubes, fly selection and the mysteries that keep us coming back, this one is a deep dive into becoming a better stillwater angler. HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

On this episode of So Fly, we’re joined by Nathan Wilbur, President of the Atlantic Salmon Federation (ASF), to talk about one of the most iconic fish on the planet: the wild Atlantic salmon. Based in Fredericton, New Brunswick, Nathan has spent more than a decade with the ASF working to conserve and restore wild Atlantic salmon across eastern Canada. His work has ranged from developing conservation programs and building coalitions and Indigenous partnerships to advocating for stronger salmon management at the government level. In July 2025, Nathan stepped into the role of President of the organization. Nathan is also a Professional Engineer with a background in rivers and fluvial geomorphology. He earned a Bachelor of Science in Forest Engineering from the University of New Brunswick before completing a Master’s in Civil Engineering, where his research focused on cold-water habitat for Atlantic salmon. But for Nathan, salmon and rivers are more than a career. He’s also a lifelong angler with a deep connection to fish, flowing water and the natural world. We chat with Nathan about the current state of wild Atlantic salmon, the biggest challenges facing populations today, habitat and river restoration, conservation and management, and the work being done to give these incredible fish a better future. Plus, we learn a little about Nathan the angler. Enjoy! Explore the ASF: https://www.asf.ca/ HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

We sit with Dr. Steven J. Cooke, a professor at Carleton University in Ottawa and one of Canada’s leading researchers in fish ecology, conservation, and recreational fisheries. We chat about what happens to fish when we catch them, and get into just how effective the practices of catch and release actually are. Dr. Cooke has spent his career studying some of the biggest questions facing fish and freshwater ecosystems, from fish migration and habitat restoration to stress physiology and more. Dr. Cooke has published more than 1200 research papers, is a Fellow of the Royal Canadian Geographical Society, and was inducted into the Freshwater Fishing Hall of Fame - just to name a few of his accomplishments and recognitions, but there are many more. To put it succinctly, he has spent decades working to turn conservation science into something that can actually make a difference on the water. HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

Joe Conrad is a mechanical engineer whose passion for fly fishing has led him to a career designing some of the gear anglers rely on every day. Based out of Sage's research and development facility on Bainbridge Island, Washington, Joe specializes in fly reel design and plays a key role in bringing new products from concept to reality. Most recently, he worked on Sage's new Shift series, helping develop equipment built to perform across a wide range of fishing situations. When he's not in the shop engineering fly reels, Joe spends his time chasing fish in both fresh and saltwater, or exploring technical rock climbs, and tackling the occasional mountaineering objective. His curiosity and creativity extend well beyond the outdoors. Joe is also a musician, and a weaver - he brings the same thoughtful approach to his creative pursuits that he does to engineering. Whether he's designing gear, fishing, scaling rock faces, or creating something with his hands, Joe is driven by a love of craftsmanship, problem-solving, and adventure. Today, we're excited to dive into the intersection of engineering, creativity, and fly fishing. HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

We're joined by Captain Jacob Meier, a guide whose fly fishing career has taken him from the flats of Florida to the rivers of Alaska, the marshes of Louisiana, the jungles of South America, and the fisheries of Baja and beyond. Jacob grew up fishing Tampa Bay and neighborhood ponds before serving six years in the U.S. Army. After his military service, he turned his passion into a profession and has since guided across some of the most diverse fisheries in North America and the Caribbean. Along the way, he's built a reputation as an angler who is always eager to explore new water and help others experience incredible fishing destinations. In this episode, we dive into Jacob's journey from Florida kid to world-traveling guide, the lessons he's learned from guiding in wildly different environments, and the adventures that have shaped his career. We also talk about Baja, Alaska, Puerto Rico, jungle fishing in Brazil and Colombia, DIY adventures in Mexico's Yucatán Peninsula, and why the pursuit of new experiences keeps him moving. Whether you're dreaming about your next fishing trip, curious about life as a professional guide, or simply enjoy hearing stories from anglers who have dedicated their lives to the water, this is an episode you won't want to miss. BOOK JACOB HERE HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

We recorded this episode straight from the shores of The Lodge at Ten Mile Lake, just north of Elliot Lake in Northern Ontario. After spending a week chasing lake trout, exploring the back lakes by boats and canoes, and experiencing everything the lodge has to offer - from the comfortable cabins to the beautiful waterfront - we sat down with owners Tyler and Krista for an on-location conversation. We talk about what inspired them to take over the lodge, what life is really like running a remote Northern Ontario fishing destination, and why Ten Mile Lake has become such a special place for anglers, families, and outdoor enthusiasts alike. Along the way, we dive into lake trout fishing, the history of the property, memorable moments from our stay, and what guests can expect when they make the trip north. Whether you're planning your next fishing adventure or simply love hearing stories from the people who keep Ontario's outdoor traditions alive, this episode is a great glimpse into life at one of Northern Ontario's hidden gems. GO VISIT THE LODGE AT TEN MILE LAKE! You won't be disappointed! And keep an eye out in 2027 for our PALM and Scale of Change film, which will be playing the festival! Also, HUGE thanks to Elliot Lake for the support, and for giving us the chance to explore their very beautiful part of Ontario. Go visit Elliot Lake, you won't be disappointed with the endless outdoor opportunities of the region! BOOK YOUR STAY: https://www.moveheallearn.com/ EXPLORE ELLIOT LAKE: https://www.exploreelliotlake.com/ ELLIOT LAKE FISHING: https://www.exploreelliotlake.com/outdoors/fishing/ --------- HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

In this episode of the So Fly Fishing Podcast, we sit down with fly fishing guide Sam Breault of Gaspé Coastal in Quebec's Gaspé Peninsula. Sam guides for Atlantic salmon, striped bass, and sea-run brook trout in Eastern Canada, while also spending part of the year guiding in Chilean Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego for sea-run brown trout. Growing up in Northern British Columbia and Alberta, Sam taught herself to fly fish through determination, mentorship, and countless hours of learning solo. Her journey to becoming a professional guide wasn't a straight line - after studying film and forestry and working as a forestry consultant, she eventually followed her passion full-time into the fly fishing world. We talk about Atlantic salmon, guiding in Gaspésie, chasing trout in Patagonia, conservation, storytelling, building a career in fly fishing, and what it's like helping anglers connect with wild fish in some of the most beautiful places on earth. Follow Sam on Instagram: @sambreault https://www.instagram.com/sambreault/ Keywords: fly fishing, Atlantic salmon, Gaspé Coastal, Gaspésie, Quebec fly fishing, striped bass, sea-run brook trout, Patagonia fly fishing, Chile trout fishing, sea-run brown trout, fly fishing guide, salmon fishing, So Fly Podcast. HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

We sit down with Brita Fordice, a full-time product developer at RIO Products who designs and tests flies for a wide range of freshwater and saltwater species. Raised on Washington's Stillaguamish River, Brita started fly fishing at eight years old and taught herself to tie flies at ten. She later guided throughout Puget Sound and Hood Canal before helping build RIO's fly program from the ground up. We talk about her journey into fly fishing, fly design, working in the industry, and the lessons she's learned along the way. Follow Brita on Instagram HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

We sit down with Jim McLennan and Jonathon Wescott from The Trout Trust to talk about the future of Alberta’s trout fisheries. From fish entrainment and river conservation to advocacy and uniting anglers across the province, this conversation dives into the challenges facing cold-water ecosystems and what anglers can do to help protect them for generations to come. LEARN MORE: https://www.thetrouttrust.com/ HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

Jani Himanko joins us from Jyväskylä, Finland - he brings more than two decades of experience in fishing tourism and the tackle industry. He’s the co-owner of Kellankoski Lodge and has been a professional fishing guide since 2001, most at home wading rapids in search of trout and grayling. We chat to Jani about the fly fishing opportunities in Finland, and the incredible brown trout fishing at Kellankoski. Thanks so much for coming on the show, Jani! Check out Kellankoski Lodge! HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

In this episode, we explore the stories behind The Scale of Change Film Tour and the PALM Film Festival - two traveling showcases dedicated to celebrating wild places and protecting the fish and rivers that depend on them. We’re joined by filmmakers and advocates including Fred Campbell of Hooké, Ted Logart of Wild Fish, Wild Places, Olivier and Dylan of Group North Shore, and Kate and Scott Sherin. All these wonderful humans share insights into their films, creative process, and stories from along the way. Thanks so much all for coming on, and for making some killer films for the tours this year. It's so special getting to be part of this scene. 🎬 Check out the 2026 tour dates and catch a screening near you: https://www.scaleofchange.org/ HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

We sit down with Swedish angler, conservationist, and filmmaker Emilie Björkman to dive deep into her latest cinematic masterpiece: Wild Fish, Wild Places. Emilie takes us behind the scenes of this series, sharing the highs and lows of filming in some of the world’s most iconic and fragile fisheries. We also give a massive shout-out to her filmmaking partner, Ted Logardt, the visionary behind the lens who helps bring these poetic, rugged stories to life. Together, Emilie and Ted have created a series that is as much about the culture and responsibility of the sport as it is about the fish themselves. Watch 'Wild Fish, Wild Places' 📺 Watch on YouTube: Loop Tackle - Wild Fish, Wild Places Follow Emilie’s Journey: Instagram: @emiliebjorkman ----- HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

We head east to the legendary Gaspé coast for an unforgettable adventure chasing striped bass and Atlantic salmon. It was our first time exploring the region, except for Aldo who had been before - and the experience lived up to every bit of the hype. We were joined by our good friends Junior and David, and together we fished the rivers and coastal waters of the Gaspé while taking in the rugged beauty that makes this place so special. Along the way, we also filmed a short documentary called This Is Ours, which tells the story of the Gaspé Coastal lodge and the people connected to it. The film is currently touring in the PALM Festival and the Scale of Change festival, and this trip became a big part of that story. In this episode, we talk about first impressions of the Gaspé region, what it was like targeting striped bass and salmon in such an iconic fishery, the moments that stood out from the trip, and how the experience shaped the film. From road-trip laughs to powerful days on the water, this conversation captures the spirit of a place that quickly left its mark on all of us. If you love travel, fishing, and the stories that come from chasing fish in new places, DON'T MISS THIS EP! Special thanks to Junior and David for working their butts off to capture the film and content. AND to the fab people at Gaspé Coastal. WE LOVE YOU! VISIT Gaspé: https://www.gaspecoastal.com/ ----- HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

We sit with Indigenous Pueblo angler Norman Maktima. Norman grew up in Pecos, just outside Santa Fe, fishing the Pecos River with his father, a place that shaped both his angling and his identity as a descendant of the Pueblos of San Felipe, Laguna, and Hopi. He’s been immersed in fly fishing since childhood, splitting time between the water and the vise, and by 1997 he was already guiding for High Desert Angler and earning a spot on Team USA’s Youth Fly Fishing Team. Since then, he’s built an elite competitive career with international medals, a U.S. National Championship title, and appearances at world championships across Europe and North America. Today, Norman designs signature flies for Umpqua, runs NMaktima Fly Fishing featuring Pueblo-inspired designs - he guides on the San Juan River, and coaches the U.S. Women’s Fly Fishing Team, which recently took Team Gold along with individual Gold and Silver at the World Championships. Beyond competition, he’s deeply committed to teaching and sharing knowledge, especially within Indigenous communities, using fly fishing as a way to connect culture, water, and opportunity. Find Norman's stuff: https://nmaktimaflyfishing.com/ Thanks for coming on the show, Norman! ----- HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

We sit with Jeffery Feczko, owner and guide of To The Gills in Baja California Sur, Mexico. From fly tying at a young age to guiding fisheries across the globe, Jeffery has built a life shaped by travel, salt, and fish. His twenties took him from Alaska, earning his 100-ton USCG Master Captain’s license, to destinations like the Seychelles, where guiding iconic atolls eventually led to burnout and a realization that living in waders year-round wasn’t the life he wanted. Drawn back to warm water and shore-based fishing, he went to Baja California Sur, where he now guides year-round in one of the most diverse and demanding fisheries on the planet. In this episode, we talk about why Baja stands above everywhere else he’s fished - the people, culture, food, and the mighty, mighty roosterfish. GO FISHING WITH JEFFERY: https://tothegills.net/ Follow Jeffery on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tothegills/?hl=en Find his WICKED flies: https://farbank.com/collections/rio-signature-tyer-jeffrey-feczko ----- HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

We sit with guide and angler Andrew Colston from Australia to chat all about an incredible, beastly, elusive fish, the MURRAY COD! This fish has fascinated us for years, but the truth is - we know NOTHING about it. So we brought Andrew on, a wicked angler who has been chasing these fish for years, to give us the low down. This episode is an intro to this incredible fish. We've only scratched the surface. Thanks for coming on, Andrew! Follow Andrew on Instagram. Book him for a day of fishing for murray cod! HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

We sit with RA Beattie, long time award-winning fly fishing film maker and heckin' accomplished angler. We speak to RA about all aspects of his interesting life - fishing, filming, and fishing filming. We dive into where he grew up and learned to toss bugs. We chat about how he got into guiding in Slovenia. We discuss what goes into making a fly fishing film, and how he found himself doing it, for DECADES! Thanks for coming on the show, RA. Watch RA's work here! Or follow along with Off the Grid on Instagram. Find his most recent film with David Chang in the fly fishing film festivals - coming to a theatre near you! HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

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ALDO took the freakin' trip of a lifetime down to Mag Bay Lodge with Taco Fly Co. - Mario! It was an epic adventure full of crazy tales, and BIG, FLIPPIN', FISH! He caught one of the ocean's most incredible fish - Striped marlin on the fly. Interested in how you too could take a trip like this? Or perhaps you want to know what it might be like to venture off on such an excursion? Well tune the heck in and get all the deets from Aldo's hop over the back fence. Shout out to MAG BAY LODGE Shout out to Taco Fly Co. for the wonderful hosting HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.

We sat with Lyne Sexton of Sexton and Sexton, and ICONIC fly shop in an ICONIC place, Cascapédia-Saint-Jules, Quebec. Lyne is a fly angler, educator, mom, and more. She's caught incredible Atlantic salmon in her home rivers of Cascapédia-Saint-Jules. She joins us to chat about the history of the shop, how she got into fly fishing, what it's like growing up in an incredible, storied fly fishing region, and more. https://www.sextonandsexton.com/ Keep an eye out for more information on the So Fly film about Gaspé Coastal in the 2026 Palm Film Festival. HOW TO HELP SO FLY: Please go leave us a review on APPLE PODCASTS. It really helps our show get out there, which means we get to make MORE episodes. Thank you to our sponsors: Drift Outfitters Redington Chums Costa Muskoka Brewery Hooké Podcast Intro Theme Song Music: “Favela Beat“ by Birocratic (www.birocratic.com) The song used in our podcast was licensed via Birocratic License v05.2016. For info on how you can use this music in your project, check out ⁠http://www.birocratic.com/license-app.⁠ To download Birocratic’s 60+ song discography, visit http:// birocratic.bandcamp.com. Thanks to all our listeners.